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Dec 19, 2014 6:11:58 GMT -6
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 19, 2014 6:11:58 GMT -6
Yes, I think it will be GA State or Texas State....Market size....Con USA is perceived as a better conference....seems more stable.... Well, look at the last few years, they've lost about as many as the Belt. It's all about the money. Thy are not that "stable"! Everyone is open to a move "up"! As they perceive it.
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 14, 2014 11:04:03 GMT -6
exactly. I'm super excited about CNB being the HC. I'm confident that the group dynamics of the Football Staff that JH and CNB are hiring/assembling brings individual strengths to the Staff with enough sensitivity, trust and management to mitigate individual weaknesses. This is THE #1 challenge of managing organizational effectiveness and is NOT lost on JH and CNB. I'm impressed and excited at the potential of this staff to date!!!! GO TROJANS!! Yep!!!!:-)
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 13, 2014 13:59:24 GMT -6
Well, he hired Brown and Brown has had input on the rest. The money? Well that's interesting that the Prez has "found" these funds in abundance lately. Makes one wonder where it's been for the ladt 4 years but I don't look a gift horse in the mouth! Bet LB would have loved having that option. Maybe his results could have been better and our ulcers fewer had we retained a few great coaches we lost to salary. Just sayin'! Understand your sentiment RW but let's not cry over spilt milk??? My belief is, the last 4 years made a believer out of someone. We all live and learn!! Even chancellors and bots!! I'd guess that there are a bunch of Team huddles these days, JH, Neal et al are building the future!! Here's to Troy! smiley-eatdrink009 Oh, I'll drunk to that! It's just always fascinated me that you take an emoyee and give them responsibilities and at some point they start failing and the reasons are "we needineybto build and pay salaries do we can keep the best" and that money doesn't show. Employee not retained then you hire a new guy to see if he can succeed and immediately give him the things the guy you let go asked for. For some reason I struggle with that but YES, I'm thrilled that whomever saw the light and decided to turn loose of the cash drawer did do now. This is a great hire, as most of Johns are proving to be, and I'm excited about our future. Let's just get a quality recruiting class in house ASAP!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 13, 2014 13:50:44 GMT -6
South Florida is considered south of Hwy #4 that connects Orlando and Tampa! You mean I-4 . Theoretically maybe but Kissimmee Oeceola HS is south of I-4 and they represented the north half of the state in the 7A state championship. Tampa Robinson High School is south of I-4 and when I was coaching we met them second round (north) Lakeland High is south of their and they play in the North also Oh, I didn't have athletics in mind when I made my I-4 reference. I've worked on a statewide educational organization for 28 years and when we discussed "South Florida" we were referring to south of I-4.
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 13, 2014 12:03:41 GMT -6
For the 1,002 time. I don't live in South Florida. I recomend getting a map. Really? Where is the line? South Florida is considered south of Hwy #4 that connects Orlando and Tampa!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 13, 2014 11:54:55 GMT -6
Hartwell has more power and freedom in decision making than Dennis ever did. In all honesty he's more qualified to make those decisions. His background is vastly different than the previous AD. Also his ability to communicate with donors of any and all levels is far far superior to Steve Dennis. Obviously Dr Hawkins will still be involved in a lot of decision making as he is the Chancellor of the university. I will give John credit for listening. He has made changes that have greatly made game day more enjoyable. To touch on the RV posts, there is no perfect scenario. I agree there is no need for water and electric hook up. Most motor homes gave a generator and you can bring one for a trailer. You are tailgating for one day, not staying a week on vacation. It would be nice to have a RV only area permanent but there is no space for that. If you want to watch Bama or Auburn on TV, stay home. I come to Troy to watch my school play. I have lived in Florida for 44 years. I live 45 minutes from UF and 3 hours from FSU. I dont give a rats but what they do. The only score that matters to me is the Troy score, I tailgate to enjoy friends and old teammates, enjoy the pre game experience and to watch a game in a great stadium. I don't do it to watch TV. One of the problems with Troy is to many people more worried about what goes on in the SEC than what goes on in the Vet. Yep!:-)
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 12, 2014 8:22:50 GMT -6
Just by reading this thread you can quickly tell who has been around John and knows his vision and passion, and those that are further removed. I may not know Hartwell as well as some of the folks on the board as I have only talked to him a few dozen times or so, but what do I know. Not trying to be a "hater" by any means. I think Hartwell has been a big upgrade from the previous AD, but I still skeptical that most of these financial decisions are made above Hartwell's pay grade. So who do you credit with getting that decision making to change, Obama? He has made several great looking hires and some left to be evaluated but can anyone point out a dud? I for one think that a lot of these funds have been available before but it took John to get them dedicated to where they needed to be. It's dufficilt to understand critics who constantly find fault with one situation then a new man comes in, changes things for the good and they remain skeptical. I guess you can't change a "glass half empty" kinda personality or not for long at least. You know, like the great ship builder who everyone cheers for when the great ship was build but let the da-- thing spring one little leak and its Titanic time! Just sayin', give credit as quick as you give criticism! John is doing a lot of things really well. Isn't that what we wanted? JMHO!:-)
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 11, 2014 21:41:06 GMT -6
Seen all the posts, the naysayers, the doubters, the critics. Since JH set foot on campus, things are a changin'! EVERY Troy Athletic endeavor gets JH full attention, each will be be the best it can be, or changed! It is his responsibility, his authority, his plan, his guidance and ultimately, he is accountable!! Trust me, Troy Athletics is in exceptionally good hands!!! Each new hire gets his full attention, from HC to GA!! That's a good thing!! The best is yet to come, but in the meantime, kudos to JH. This >> john-hartwell cornhole appreciate ya, man!! 04-clap2 GO TROJANS!! Yep, well said!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 11, 2014 21:38:05 GMT -6
Can I hear a "hip hip huray" for "Little John Hartwell" from all the naysayers a few weeks ago?:-) I don't how much influence Hartwell had on this decision. The checkbook is still controlled by others with a lot more authority. Well, he hired Brown and Brown has had input on the rest. The money? Well that's interesting that the Prez has "found" these funds in abundance lately. Makes one wonder where it's been for the ladt 4 years but I don't look a gift horse in the mouth! Bet LB would have loved having that option. Maybe his results could have been better and our ulcers fewer had we retained a few great coaches we lost to salary. Just sayin'!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 11, 2014 19:37:41 GMT -6
The news keeps getting better and better. I need to pinch myself the way everything is falling into place. Can I hear a "hip hip huray" for "Little John Hartwell" from all the naysayers a few weeks ago?:-)
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 11, 2014 13:49:12 GMT -6
According to multiple reports, Koenning has been removed as Assoc. Head Coach for Defense at North Carolina. Could this actually fall into place for us? Here's a tweet from Bruce Feldman: Bruce Feldman ✔ @brucefeldmancfb Vic Koenning is out as assoc. head coach for defense at #UNC, per source. Wouldn't be surprised to see him re-surface w Neal Brown at #TroyHe's currently making $250k at UNC. Weeeeeellllllll! Stranger things have happened!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 11, 2014 10:56:05 GMT -6
This kid is a great ball player but the question is will he stay qualified once he is on board with any D-1 school. Love to see him play at Troy but again can he buckle down when it comes to making the grades? Dang, isn't that true with any recruit?
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 10, 2014 13:59:08 GMT -6
Sounds like another good hire....Im really excited about how this process is working out. Hopefully it produces results..... So far he's doing all the right things which is all we could ask for. I'm excited about the remainder of his staff and to see some quality names appear in the "committed" collum! Yep, me thinks JH picked a goodun'!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 10, 2014 8:04:10 GMT -6
Awesome hire. Anything is better than what we had, though. I agree! JH seems to know what he is doing despite some fans opinions.
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 10, 2014 8:00:09 GMT -6
He knows this offense and his coaching on the OL is desperately needed. You don't know how bad morale was on the OL. We have some great young OL that need some encouragement and coaching. We had some that should have redshirted this year because Dye only used them on FG and pat. Very foolish to burn a year of eligibility on that. [ So far it seems as though "little John Hartwell" knows what he is doing! Now if fans don't turn on him and Coach Brown if we don't win the championship next year......but we CAN hope!:-) We SHOULD expect to see reasonable improvement. All his hires seem to be showing this improvement. It will take time but the direction seems to be a positive one.
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 8, 2014 15:34:07 GMT -6
Once a year, we should play with leather helmets to honor Busby. Then he can come around and tell us about that one time he did something that he always talks about. If you did what you said you did, that ain't braggin'!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 6, 2014 20:02:57 GMT -6
I don't care for it. Of all our logos, that one is my least favorite. They need to scrap that logo forever and you never put red on black or black on red without a silver/white trim or dividing stripe.
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 6, 2014 13:45:47 GMT -6
I don't think you can shut down a spread offense completely,with comparable athletes, on a regular basis. Once Neal had his offense clicking, if we have a middle of the pack defense we will be very difficult to beat. Three to five more possessions offensively means the same defensively. If we want to win SBC championship ... we have to stop spread option too! (GSC, APP St ... ULL killed us with simple read option). I do like that Neal mentioned he wanted an "aggressive" defense. Best way to stop the option ... stopping it in the backfield! i AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!! I've said it over and over, you CANT stop the triple option if you let the QB get to the end and still have the ball and the options!!!! You have to commit outside contain and force a QB to make a choice within his first two steps.
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 6, 2014 8:34:36 GMT -6
Yeah I agree....I think we will find someone who fits the bill and pay scale. As successful as Brown has been in the Spread or Air Raid, whichever you choose to call it, he would also have a terrific understanding of how to shut it down (if you can) so I expect him to hire that right guy and then offer input so I can see our defense being a lot better in the future IF we recruit well!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 6, 2014 8:26:08 GMT -6
Cutting UAB football is a drop in the bucket as far as UAB's athletic subsidy goes. The subsidy will still be the same or higher next year with no football. And UA certainly doesn't pay for UAB's athletic programs. That's pretty much a joke. The problem is, UA fans think they "own" UAB. It's like some sort of weird slave relationship. Here's something I quote from someone on Facebook: -- UAB cut football and two other sports but is cutting no expenses. Really. It is adding men's track too. Cutting football will result in no savings of expenses. -- UAB will pay out about $2.5 million in cancelled game contracts and more than a million more in coaches' salaries. -- UAB will have to honor the scholarships of athletes who do not land elsewhere. -- UAB will lose affiliation with Conference USA which is a far more lucrative conference than the regional alternatives UAB will have to seek. -- UAB likely will have to pay millions in entrance fees for a new conference. -- UAB will lose significant valuable media exposure both in terms of game coverage, mentions in newspapers, magazines, websites, social media and in actual commercials that air during game broadcasts. It is difficult to quantify the exact value on that but most FBS schools project it as being worth 10s of millions if you had to buy that time or space each year. -- UAB becomes a non-entity in these venues until November each year, limiting exposure to alumni and current and future students. -- UAB's opportunities to make NCAA Tournament as at at-large team in basketball are at best going to stay same and probably will get worse. -- The report estimated a drop in 15-20 percent of donations. I expect it will be worse than that and probably will be extremely bad across non-sports giving. -- UAB rejected offers of millions in fundraising for football and refused to hear plans from city, county and corporate leaders on possibly public/private partnerships. -- The BOT rejected without even hearing a stadium proposal that might have addressed facilities concerns cited as reasoning and refused to explore any options -- or even discuss -- ways outside funds could be solicited. -- UAB is losing the single biggest outreach it has to raise awareness for its academic programs, keep alums connected to the school and the community aware and engaged in the university. -- UAB now gets the asterisk of being the first university to drop FBS football since 1995 and this upheaval is certain to have a ripple effect that is immensely damaging to its reputation. It will hurt recruiting and image across the board -- academics too -- and cements the perception that UAB will never be allowed to truly control it's affairs and destiny. It's a terrible situation but what was turnout for football? I believe all of that is true, just wondering the actual number. I suspect this action goes well beyond dollars and cents but I'm not nearly close enough to anyone who could expound! I keep hearing Jr.'s name and his determination but don't know it's/his basis. I feel bad for all the UAB faithful some of which are family but I sure enjoyed the years we beat them!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 4, 2014 20:08:49 GMT -6
I like it, especially if the actual helmet is as shiny as this picture shows. That's because of the Chrome effect in the paint. It really makes the helmet POP!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 4, 2014 20:06:51 GMT -6
i like the logo but our color is SILVER not grey. You CAN buy silver gear, ie Cowboys! I do hope some change is made in uniforms. I like multiple helmets of different colors as well. Why not use silver/chrome as the third color rather than white. We dropped white years ago. Ok, I know it's a base "color" but we seldome if ever use silver.
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 4, 2014 13:26:31 GMT -6
why would they play another branch of their university? That would just breed hatred between fan bases. I don't think they're afraid to lose to the red headed stepchild of the family. Also, that might be why Nick Saban won't play those games, but I don't think that's the universities reason. I think they're afraid to have a poor showing against in state schools, but losing recruits? No. Sabin is on record as saying he would have no problem playing in state schools. He did it at LSU where by law they have to. Well we heard two completely different positions but it's no big deal. I just know they won't/don't play us so I'm not sure who is saying "no" then. Maybe Jr!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 4, 2014 12:38:23 GMT -6
[ Are you referring to JR.? I have a dear friend that is a long time donor at UA and he spares no feelings about shutting them down. Alabama alumni doesn't want UA funds going to support other schools athletic programs. It's sad UAB can't cut that umbilical cord but then it's not about athletics..,,unless you are a UA supporter. Oh, I completely see the business side. I wonder if UA will shut fown their track program, tennis programs, all ladies sports and any other UA athletic programs that drain from that same UA checking account? If they are going to shut down football at UAB then I could understand it more if they told UAB that they are part of UA family therefore there will be no sports programs financed outside Tuscaloosa. You support us. Paul Bryant Jr? That's probably the one, I would think. Yep, that's the one I keep hearing! I guess I let an experience years ago taint my view of that family. I always respected Coach Bryant as a coach because he was what I thought a successful coach needed to be, tough. Then I was fortunate enough to be selected to attend a recognition banquet as a player and Paul Bryant was one of 3 speakers. After his presentation a question and answer session took place with the news media (it was a news paper sponsored event). At one point Bryant was asked a question that he didn't like so he gave a sarcastic answer, got up and walked out on all those/us players and our parents and coaches. No explanation. That stuck with me a long time as a coach. The media can be a pain but that was classless! Nevertheless, it is what it is at UAB, they are a step child plain and simple! I wonder about the rest of their programs, are they on shakey ground? Recruiting there should be interesting!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 4, 2014 12:26:51 GMT -6
If every university was forced to shut down every program that lost money then a lot of us would have to find new things to do on weekends. On the surface, keeping them is bad business practices as well. I guess those "LEAST INFORMED PEOPLE" are also oblivious as to the reasons UA refuses to play any instate football program and keep that money and those jobs in Alabama. Why didn't UA agree to play UAB each year home and home to help with the financial shortfall they claim exist if they were really interested in helping at all? I believe it was Sabin that said about in state OOC games, "I won't play any team I recruit against"! Alabama possesses an arrogance that's exceptional but then my opinion might change if some of the MOST INFORMED PEOPLE might share from their wealth of knowledge. We're listening!:-):-):-) JMHO! why would they play another branch of their university? That would just breed hatred between fan bases. I don't think they're afraid to lose to the red headed stepchild of the family. Also, that might be why Nick Saban won't play those games, but I don't think that's the universities reason. I think they're afraid to have a poor showing against in state schools, but losing recruits? No. I completely agree with you that I can't imagine them worrying about losing recruits to any of us small guys but why did Sabin make that remark credited to him? Some states require instate teams to play each other simy gor that reason, keep money flowing within OUR state. I have no way up prove what's in JR's or anyone's heart on that board but what was offered to help them? Not an on campus stadium, apparently not an honest commitment to a coaching staff and players or even one that got them to bowl eligibility in one year. The program was on an upswing it appears. Last year would have made more sense. In the end, it's all just speculation. I have friends from both universities but I don't get the same elitism from Auburn folks as I do from the UA crowd but that is just MY small sampling group.
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