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Post by Redwaver on Jan 13, 2015 6:48:15 GMT -6
Last nights game proved that "old school" football is still alive and well. Discipline (sound fundamentals) dedication and commitment (Ohio States basic offensive game plan of wearing you down and a solid defense) should prove to the naysayers that the "modern football" schemes, as good as they are, STILL must accept that the fact that the basics of sound "old school" football is a force to be dealt with and has a HUGE place in all styles of the game! Including "modern" styles !!! JMHO!
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Post by Redwaver on Jan 11, 2015 7:51:47 GMT -6
Love the idea. However, we should have "cardinal chrome" helmets with silver chrome face masks. It DOES look like WKU helmets. How about one of both?:-)
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Post by Redwaver on Jan 10, 2015 21:09:29 GMT -6
I "give a bleep"!!!! Yes, we got "our guy" but that poster's question was a lagitimate one so why the sarcasim? Stuff like this makes fans despise posting things here THEY are truly interested in, doesn't mean you have to be. To minimize someones reasonable question with sarcasm says something about that persons needs! We do this to each other on these sites way too often. Couldn't it have been left to someone who knows to provide a simple yes he did or no he didn't answer? Now, feel free to have at this response. Oh, yes that question was worth an answer IF anyone knows. Thanks! Ohhhhhh...the Dream just got served. Guess he should deactivate his account now because he will never recover from this burn. Time to go cry in the corner because someone got kerfuffled over a message board post. Way to old and far too many issues faced to let a keyboard "authority" ruffel any feathers this old crow may still have left. Better folks have tried it years ago. I was just suggesting some sense of civility within OUR OWN TROJAN BROTHERHOOD might be a good thing but I know, it doesn't let ones "manliness" be exposed like sarcasm does! Nothing's gained by making a posters question seem trivial or worthless but heck, if it makes you feel good and brightens your day, have at it!
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Post by Redwaver on Jan 10, 2015 11:59:02 GMT -6
Definitely needs more color! Maybe a spear blade as the stripe!
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Post by Redwaver on Jan 10, 2015 8:40:33 GMT -6
ABSOLUTELY, but add some color to the "T"!
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Post by Redwaver on Jan 10, 2015 5:27:50 GMT -6
Who gives a bleep. We got our guy. I "give a bleep"!!!! Yes, we got "our guy" but that poster's question was a lagitimate one so why the sarcasim? Stuff like this makes fans despise posting things here THEY are truly interested in, doesn't mean you have to be. To minimize someones reasonable question with sarcasm says something about that persons needs! We do this to each other on these sites way too often. Couldn't it have been left to someone who knows to provide a simple yes he did or no he didn't answer? Now, feel free to have at this response. Oh, yes that question was worth an answer IF anyone knows. Thanks!
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Post by Redwaver on Jan 7, 2015 14:02:12 GMT -6
Some of them certainly could and would because they would conform if they wanted to play for them. Again, Troy has to reform the way they recruit today's youth and not worry about how power 5 teams of yesteryear did it... It's simply a measuring stick to compare with. Geez!
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Post by Redwaver on Jan 6, 2015 14:46:27 GMT -6
Well now, I suppose could do it like the bear and company, but would it be with or without the facilities that are in place or the facilities from that era? The selling point that saban uses is facilities and the ability to get you to that next level... by way of those facilities. I understand the allure of tradition, but to build upon it today, you have to have the building blocks... foundation has already been laid. Oh! I've not said nor hopefully indicated that I don't think facilities are important. They are, VERY important but my point was that other things play a huge part as well and parents and friends are part of that equation.
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Post by Redwaver on Jan 6, 2015 14:43:03 GMT -6
Recruiting from the "old days" to the present day is a totally different beast. Bryant would sign guys just to keep other teams from getting them. There were no 85 scholarship limits. There is no comparison to those days and the present . You still had to go out, talk to mom, dad and the kid and convince them to sign. That hasn't changd!
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Post by Redwaver on Jan 6, 2015 9:21:49 GMT -6
I truly believe that NB will be a fraction of the HC LB was because he had the benefit of working under his tutelage. Let's keep in mind that a lot of what was good about Troy hasn't gone away, but the manner in which the NCAA system does things has. Society has. The old school way is the right way, but it is now just a component in the machine, not the machine. One of the reasons that Troy has floundered is not meeting the same expectations that our brethren set as a result of our success. Also, the league set some requirements for its members that other members eventually exceeded our facilities. With regards to the machine, you're a part of it or you're not. We're either going to be a part of it or get run over by it. Old school has its place, but that has come to an end with the retirement of a legend. We're in for a penny, in for a pound...and I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that NB will be as old school as he can, but the new school rules the day...that's if you want the Ws that you're paying the coach to bring you. We are officially in the 21st century football arms race and we're losing. Oh, I understand and agree that times have changed but I still believe Bryant, Lombardi, Royal, Wilkerson and many more of the "old school guys" would win today! It's so much about commitment and discipline. They would probably leave the glitz up to someone else and tend to the "old school basics. What are you willing to give up for the betterment of the TEAM vs better for YOU! That's old school that will never change. Use to be that everyone understood that concept but now...not so much thus the debate over small things like hair length, facial jewelry, etc.. Years ago there would have been no debate. Folks might not have like doing it but they knew it was part of the commitment. Now It's as though you shouldn't have to give up any personal identity or habits. The team and coaches should adjust to you because you are good athletically. Times have changed, kids are different in some ways but the good ones that you can count on still have that "old school" factor. JMHO!
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Post by Redwaver on Jan 6, 2015 7:38:41 GMT -6
I don't think they are that different. Yall just like to argue and if you didn't there would be no reading material on here.
Out of 25 scholarships there will a variety of things that hook an athlete. They will range from facilities, coaches, coaches relationships with high school coaches, campus life, playing time, mama's comfort level, close to home, away from home, etc... It will different for each one. Right now we have the momentum of something new, a proven offensive head coach, a proven track record (except one school) defensive coach, both coaches have a great track record at Troy, and Troy has a winning history to get back to. Those last things are major over arching truths I would think for the kind of athlete Troy needs at this moment in time. We need a winner who likes having the odds stacked against them a little because it motivates them to dig out and prove themselves. Which sales tickets and builds buildings.
It is all connected. All I know if we win it will be easier to recruit and build. And the program will be better for it. So until then we have to have faith and support both of those activities with our mouth and our wallet. Then when our faith becomes sight it will be much easier to support those activities with our mouth and our wallet.
I am genuinely interested in the thought process of "old school" vs. new school. I see other programs willing to invest in their "cash cow" and understand that at the crux of it all, it's just football. But, the new school thinking is your Oregon, your bammers...who needs a waterfall in a recruiting lounge to win a ball game, right? Hummmmm, "old school vs new school"? Interesting identifier but even more interesting meanings. In this "old school" guys view, all this glitz and pageantry to just recruit a player(s) is the "new school" look and, regretfully, necessary to compete in today's "new" athletics. Is it good or bad? It's in the eyes of the beholder. Like decorating for a wedding, it often gets overblown and gussy just to get a basic job completed. I remember the day when basically the schools academic offerings was the more important factor. I do recognize that many of the "new" type athletes expect to be wined and dined in a lap of luxury to convince them that your place is better than their place but when all is said and done, it's salad dressing! Means nothing at kickoff on Saturday if that kid doesn't have the "old school" determination, dedication and commitment. Are athletes better athletically today than years ago? Probably! They have every benefit available that could make them better. The constant is the three criteria mentioned above. These are all personal traits and all the pomp and circumstance in Hollywood can't change that. Granted, if you get better athletes you have a chance of getting those three as well. If that happens you have a winner. Everyday you see great athletes who are losers personally. We all could name a truck load. When all is sad and done many of these guys are looking for star treatment and Troy can only offer that in limited amounts due to many factors. That's where parents, etc., become more of an important factor than in many other schools. At Troy we can have the nicest of everything in facilities but we are still located in a small Alabama town. If you are a city boy that wants city night life we're not likely to get you but if we can sell you on a great campus, great educational program in a caring environment then we have a chance. You can also sell "we care about you" factor. I remember a story Paul Bryant told about getting a great kid to Alabama. He had dropped in a small plain restaurant and eaten in a little south Alabama town and was friendly to the owner who was African American who had heard of Bryant and wanted an autographed photo for his restaurant. Bryant didn't have one but took his name and address and mailed him one the next week. He wasn't even scouting this mans relative but two years later, this really great kid from this same town refused Bryant's offer of a scholarship to Alabama. About a month later the same kid called back and told coach Bryant he had changed his decision if the offer was still there he would play for him. Bryant asked why and he said, "three years ago you ate at my grandfathers restaurant and grandpa said you were a honest man and kept your word and if I played football I would play at Alabama for you and nobody else"! You see, it's not all about the glitz......but it helps!
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Jan 2, 2015 8:08:23 GMT -6
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Post by Redwaver on Jan 2, 2015 8:08:23 GMT -6
Just thought I would share this funny post I hear they are proclaiming the power of prayer at UAB late last night.
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Post by Redwaver on Jan 1, 2015 19:25:37 GMT -6
I really hope the speed we see Oregon operating with tonight is a preview of how coach Brown sees us going on offense next year.
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 30, 2014 19:23:10 GMT -6
Don't know how Coach Brown compares to Coach Harbaugh as a coach, but when it comes to public speaking to a group of fans, Troy 1 Michigan 0. :-)
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 29, 2014 8:32:29 GMT -6
They definitely count...... My understanding was that we were hosting "several" UAB players. Is this fellow the only offer we extended or do we have others considering an offer and is their deadline to commit the same as the other athletes? Also, how many more scholarship fo we have available?
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 27, 2014 18:30:38 GMT -6
This is a crucial conference season for Coach Cunningham. It appears we have gotten better from last season, but the rest of the conference has as well. Since John Hartwell has shown that he wants results now, I wonder how long he allows Coach Cunningham to stay if growth does not continue. He's only been here ONE year! The only miracle worker I know of died on a cross years ago! We were awful and it will take time. He got a great HS recruit this year but he needs a couple more to get a solid foundation go build on. The great thing about basketball is that it only takes 2-3 good recruits to turn things around.
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 27, 2014 18:25:51 GMT -6
I think anyone around the program can clearly see the lack of facilities has hurt. I've never seen anyone say it was the only problem. We have guys that graduated this past season that were sold on the facility they would be playing in very soon. They never saw it. That effects recruiting in a negative way. Search social media, and you will see numerous football players, at some point have questioned when the facilities they were promised are going to be built. There are many reasons why Troy football has failed. I've never seen anyone pinpoint facilities as the only reason. I can agree with this. But this gets worse by all the unknowns. We have seen drawings of the project since after the 2010 season but we are still guessing when we start. This hurts in recruiting and fan support. I wish we had a definite date so there was a goal but I understand why we don't. Frustrating for everyone This is the reason I was completely disappointed at the announcement of an "after 2015 season" was issued. They need to break ground on that sucker during THIS NEXT SEASON. Folks have been told way too often, "we'll begin it next year!" Let's see proof!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 27, 2014 13:22:22 GMT -6
Winning and relationship mending...2 things that most likely wouldn't happen without change. Exactly, that is why all the people on here wanting to keep the status quo were so wrong. Look at all the excitement now. We have a staff built to win. Don't remember reading on here anybody who wanted to "keep the status quo" but I might be wrong, I was once before back in '75! There were a lot of people, I'm one, who wondered about the resources suddenly available to Coach Brown that wasn't avaliable to Larry and what it might have meant had he had them. Also there were a lot of us who respect LB and all he has done for Troy University even though his results the last 4 years has left a lot to be desired. Some of us believe that you can disagree with class and you can see a need for change yet still respect the individual being released. In some quarters those two characteristics are pitifully lacking!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 22, 2014 19:16:35 GMT -6
To all my fellow Trojans... Merry Christmas and a blessed New Year! Well said fellow Trojan!! Same wishes from this corner as well. Hoping everyone has a merry Christmas and everyone, especially the Trojan Nation experiences a wonderful 2015! The new year just might be the beggining of a Trojan uprising! Go Ttojans!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 21, 2014 20:53:47 GMT -6
Coach said post-game they've lost a few guys and the team is less athletic because of it, but they'll have to scrap and hustle to win the rest of the season...Barry interviewed Abdul Aleem and I believe that's exactly what they'll do. Whst were the reasons for the loss of players?
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 21, 2014 18:03:42 GMT -6
fid Did the small school group include the majority of the private schools? If so that's the reason they beat the larger classification. PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN FLORIDA RECRUIT PLAYERS FOR ATHLETICS despite what the religious leaders of those schools claim. I wonder sometimes when they say they only recruit for faith and academic reasons to whom do the Fathers confess their sins of honesty to?:-):-) Mixture. Madison county, Suwannee, Ft white etc had players and some 8a Jacksonville schools like Mandarin etc. South was mainly Lakeland, Ft Pierce and the big schools. North came back and won it late. Much smaller up front than the South to. Surprised at the talent at some of the small schools and those are kids we have shots at, that was the point of my post....not SOUTH FLORIDA I saw Madison play once on TV and they got creamed by a average Pace team but they got better as the year went along.
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 21, 2014 16:29:12 GMT -6
Watching it on TV here. A lot of talent on both sides and some really good players from smaller rural schools on the North side. Being played at the Villages, FL. I hope we have a coach there watching. Great chance to evaluate some great talent fid Did the small school group include the majority of the private schools? If so that's the reason they beat the larger classification. PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN FLORIDA RECRUIT PLAYERS FOR ATHLETICS despite what the religious leaders of those schools claim. I wonder sometimes when they say they only recruit for faith and academic reasons to whom do the Fathers confess their sins of honesty to?:-):-)
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 19, 2014 12:51:23 GMT -6
This should be a good series for us.....Nice little road trip....... Yes. Easy home and away game for both teams. It makes sense. I hope the JH naysayers have reconsidered. The man is dealing aces!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 19, 2014 6:21:28 GMT -6
Apparently they like the turf better. They have tried with both turf and dirt. They decided to go with turf again so I assume the coaches think it is better Frankly I'm surprised the NCAA font have a rule requiring a dirt mound and batters box.......just like I wish they had a rule about "grass" color for football turf. GREEN OR SHADES OF GREEN ONLY!
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 19, 2014 6:17:58 GMT -6
So we have gone back to a turf batter's box? It was a dirt batters box last year, I hope that don't change!
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