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Post by Trojans1andAll on Aug 22, 2022 16:04:47 GMT -6
Regarding unaddressed sexual assault allegations. During "the other guy's" era. The accused transferred to Jax State but one of the staff members - Jamaal Smith, is still on staff. Link: Former Troy player sues.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Aug 22, 2022 16:25:07 GMT -6
Wow
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Post by trojanocean on Aug 22, 2022 16:25:54 GMT -6
If true, it's a bad, bad look for the program and it infuriates me to no end. This sort of thing is SO needless and it's such a self-inflicted wound. I'd love to have the opportunity to tell these coaches exactly what I think of there complicit lack of intervention....again, if true. There's just zero excuse and I have no mercy for it.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Aug 22, 2022 16:33:12 GMT -6
It doesn't surprise me at all when it happened and under which coach's era. Jack is woke and won't put up with this, Smith might be out.
Also, is anyone else curious about the timing of this suit, just a couple of weeks before the season starts? Seems timed to do the most damage.
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Post by trojanocean on Aug 22, 2022 16:51:35 GMT -6
From another news source on the story. That term still makes my skin crawl... Attachments:
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Post by trojanempire on Aug 22, 2022 17:20:12 GMT -6
If this is true, and I have no reason to not believe it is, all Involved in this (that have not been named) should be called out by name and have the book thrown at them.
This is beyond embarrassing
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Post by buzzlightyear on Aug 22, 2022 18:34:21 GMT -6
I would like to know all the facts before any rendering of an opinion. Does look bad. Captain Bedpan was no Joe Paterno but letting things slide or I don’t want to know is just not acceptable.
We may never know the full details and there maybe a settlement or whatever but still this was coming to light in some manner.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Aug 22, 2022 19:57:58 GMT -6
Leadership matters. Although a horrible situation, I’m not shocked it happened under the previous staff.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Aug 22, 2022 20:48:45 GMT -6
Goodness
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Post by saintflorian on Aug 23, 2022 4:50:54 GMT -6
It doesn't surprise me at all when it happened and under which coach's era. Jack is woke and won't put up with this, Smith might be out. Also, is anyone else curious about the timing of this suit, just a couple of weeks before the season starts? Seems timed to do the most damage. Know many lawyers? Yes, the timing of the suit was intentional. Everything that is done will be to maximize the potential settlement amount. Which I willing to bet is coming from Troy. Don’t be surprised if Troy then quietly sues the coaches involved in attempt to recover damages.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Aug 23, 2022 6:07:04 GMT -6
This is really bad. The only way I see anyone named in this suit coming out unscathed is if the claims are shown to be bogus. If there is ANY credibility to the claims, those named are, if not directly guilty, at least complicit. Unless the school’s position is that these events absolutely did not occur, they must be suspended without pay, or suspended from team activities if a player, until the legal process is complete. If at that time they have not been exonerated, they must be terminated or removed from the team, immediately and without further compensation. We MUST NOT allow how we handle this to destroy the reputation of the school we love.
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Post by trojanocean on Aug 23, 2022 6:15:57 GMT -6
It doesn't surprise me at all when it happened and under which coach's era. Jack is woke and won't put up with this, Smith might be out. Also, is anyone else curious about the timing of this suit, just a couple of weeks before the season starts? Seems timed to do the most damage. Know many lawyers? Yes, the timing of the suit was intentional. Everything that is done will be to maximize the potential settlement amount. Which I willing to bet is coming from Troy. Don’t be surprised if Troy then quietly sues the coaches involved in attempt to recover damages. Surprised!? If they do (because after investigating find out it's true) then more power to them.
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Post by Hemi Man on Aug 23, 2022 6:22:00 GMT -6
It doesn't surprise me at all when it happened and under which coach's era. Jack is woke and won't put up with this, Smith might be out. Also, is anyone else curious about the timing of this suit, just a couple of weeks before the season starts? Seems timed to do the most damage. Know many lawyers? Yes, the timing of the suit was intentional. Everything that is done will be to maximize the potential settlement amount. Which I willing to bet is coming from Troy. Don’t be surprised if Troy then quietly sues the coaches involved in attempt to recover damages. Timing is very critical.
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Post by Hemi Man on Aug 23, 2022 6:23:22 GMT -6
This will play out in the courts. Unfortunately it will play out in the court of public opinion long before the first court hearing.
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Post by saintflorian on Aug 23, 2022 7:14:09 GMT -6
This will play out in the courts. Unfortunately it will play out in the court of public opinion long before the first court hearing. Will be settled out of court. Jack will not let this define the sunset of his career. Heard they have confirmed the video from the guy pissing on his car and doctors report and witnesses from the pool stick attack. Either you pay the money to the lawyers, go to court, continuing dragging the university through the mud and pay a judgement or you settle and let it slowly disappear. Either way you pay but one option gets it out of the news cycle quicker.
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Post by trojanmatt on Aug 23, 2022 7:44:03 GMT -6
If this is true I am sincerely sorry for the victim and I am sorry that he will always have a bad impression of Troy and carry this scar with him the rest of his life! What also infuriates me to no end is that (The HC we don’t speak of) is gone but he is still haunting us! If confirmed He and the coaches involved need to be held accountable for this. (The HC we don’t speak of) may not have been directly involved but it was his culture and his leadership that gave us 3 years of disappointment . When you tie that in with all the other off field rumors about (The HC we don’t speak of) , this doesnât surprise me!
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Post by cornhole on Aug 23, 2022 7:54:12 GMT -6
If this is true I am sincerely sorry for the victim and I am sorry that he will always have a bad impression of Troy and carry this scar with him the rest of his life! What also infuriates me to no end is that (The HC we don’t speak of) is gone but he is still haunting us! If confirmed He and the coaches involved need to be held accountable for this. (The HC we don’t speak of) may not have been directly involved but it was his culture and his leadership that gave us 3 years of disappointment . When you tie that in with all the other off field rumors about (The HC we don’t speak of) , this doesnât surprise me! Glad Jack Dawson is no longer here and hope he gets the full force of the law for his crimes. Poor judgement and teamsmanship. And his team mates stood by and laughed? And the Troy Police Department responded how?? Lots of stink to go around here.
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Post by saintflorian on Aug 23, 2022 8:09:51 GMT -6
If this is true I am sincerely sorry for the victim and I am sorry that he will always have a bad impression of Troy and carry this scar with him the rest of his life! What also infuriates me to no end is that (The HC we don’t speak of) is gone but he is still haunting us! If confirmed He and the coaches involved need to be held accountable for this. (The HC we don’t speak of) may not have been directly involved but it was his culture and his leadership that gave us 3 years of disappointment . When you tie that in with all the other off field rumors about (The HC we don’t speak of) , this doesnât surprise me! Glad Jack Dawson is no longer here and hope he gets the full force of the law for his crimes. Poor judgement and teamsmanship. And his team mates stood by and laughed? And the Troy Police Department responded how?? Lots of stink to go around here. You donât think there was some hush hush, letâs sweep this under the rug, do ya ? Rhetorical. Told Jack is super pissed, especially since this wasnât handled correctly in his eyes, even at the top. And now Troy has to write a check, coupled with a PR nightmare. Expect some blood letting.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Aug 23, 2022 8:16:39 GMT -6
This is the kind of sh!t that happens when you let the Chancellor pick head coaches. This one is on you Jack. Please retire now.
Sounds like they have a hell of a case.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Aug 23, 2022 8:27:00 GMT -6
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Aug 23, 2022 8:37:34 GMT -6
Trojan Warrior, can this thread be moved to the Warrior sub board? I anticipate some discussion that we might not want the general public to have access to. Sometimes the family needs to have a private discussion, even while publicly acknowledging, and dealing with, an issue.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Aug 23, 2022 8:39:49 GMT -6
Trojan Warrior, can this thread be moved to the Warrior sub board? I anticipate some discussion that we might not want the general public to have access to. Sometimes the family needs to have a private discussion, even while publicly acknowledging, and dealing with, an issue. thanks for asking. Timing very strange for 2020 incidents?
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Post by pctrojan16 on Aug 23, 2022 8:42:03 GMT -6
Timing or not no one deserves to go through this, and as for a case and proof, if it is on snapchat, the eye in the sky don't lie as they say. Video tells a story that's hard to argue
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Post by saintflorian on Aug 23, 2022 8:56:53 GMT -6
Trojan Warrior, can this thread be moved to the Warrior sub board? I anticipate some discussion that we might not want the general public to have access to. Sometimes the family needs to have a private discussion, even while publicly acknowledging, and dealing with, an issue. Moving it into a dark corner will not make the stink go away. In fact, causes it to grow. The quicker it is discussed and vented over in the open, the quicker it goes away.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Aug 23, 2022 9:01:20 GMT -6
Trojan Warrior, can this thread be moved to the Warrior sub board? I anticipate some discussion that we might not want the general public to have access to. Sometimes the family needs to have a private discussion, even while publicly acknowledging, and dealing with, an issue. Moving it into a dark corner will not make the stink go away. In fact, causes it to grow. The quicker it is discussed and vented over in the open, the quicker it goes away. “… even while publicly acknowledging, and dealing with, an issue.” I acknowledged it needs to be dealt with publicly, but there may be some things said, or that need to be said, that Yosef, or 🚫, don’t need to be privy to. They’re going to have a field day with this as it is, we don’t need to give them more ammo.
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