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Post by nohuddle on Nov 30, 2019 12:46:05 GMT -6
Today is the day that we need to hear that the DC has been fired. Open up the checkbook and go get a coach that can turn around the defense, retain players, and bring in some recruits. Start with Sumrall and at least give him the chance to tell us no, then go from there.
I think the offense will be fine. Our passing game was greatly hampered by not having a running game due to injuries.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 30, 2019 12:49:57 GMT -6
Today is the day that we need to hear that the DC has been fired. Open up the checkbook and go get a coach that can turn around the defense, retain players, and bring in some recruits. Start with Sumrall and at least give him the chance to tell us no, then go from there. I think the offense will be fine. Our passing game was greatly hampered by not having a running game due to injuries. We had our chance at Sumrall and they took Suitcase (The HC we don’t speak of)
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 30, 2019 12:52:16 GMT -6
Sumrall would only come back for HC and probably not if we continue to be a dumpster fire.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 30, 2019 12:58:23 GMT -6
Today is the day that we need to hear that the DC has been fired. Open up the checkbook and go get a coach that can turn around the defense, retain players, and bring in some recruits. Start with Sumrall and at least give him the chance to tell us no, then go from there. I think the offense will be fine. Our passing game was greatly hampered by not having a running game due to injuries. Offense is prolific versus bad teams. Ineffective versus good and above teams.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 30, 2019 12:59:21 GMT -6
Today is the day that we need to hear that the DC has been fired. Open up the checkbook and go get a coach that can turn around the defense, retain players, and bring in some recruits. Start with Sumrall and at least give him the chance to tell us no, then go from there. I think the offense will be fine. Our passing game was greatly hampered by not having a running game due to injuries. Offense is prolific versus bad teams. Ineffective versus good and above teams. THIS....Auburn canned him but that didn't matter to AD Useless
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Post by nohuddle on Nov 30, 2019 13:15:27 GMT -6
Offense is prolific versus bad teams. Ineffective versus good and above teams. THIS....Auburn canned him but that didn't matter to AD Useless (The HC we don’t speak of) was not fired by Auburn.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 30, 2019 13:19:45 GMT -6
THIS....Auburn canned him but that didn't matter to AD Useless (The HC we don’t speak of) was not fired by Auburn. relieved of play calling duties and next game they score 67 points
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Post by troyjan95 on Nov 30, 2019 16:38:11 GMT -6
Barry Odum is available - pretty good defensive coach
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 30, 2019 16:39:57 GMT -6
Barry Odum is available - pretty good defensive coach I’d take Wayne Bolt at this point.
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Post by troyjan95 on Nov 30, 2019 16:42:16 GMT -6
No Bolt for me - was Butch Jones an offensive or defensive guy - Ted Roof is at App State and he has been around - pretty good coach imo
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Post by cornhole on Nov 30, 2019 16:42:36 GMT -6
Barry Odum is available - pretty good defensive coach I’d take Wayne Bolt at this point. OMG. We’re THAT desperate??
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Post by jonesoxygen on Nov 30, 2019 17:02:13 GMT -6
A lot of parallel thinking here. I agree with nohuddle, call Jon, tell him he gets to have complete control of the D and hire whomever he needs to get the job done. New AD than who was here when he didn’t get the job. I’ll be glad to forward his number to CL. I also agree with Hemi and others that the S&C program appears to be a prob. Some of that is my assumptions based on injuries and performance. Some of that is some of the things I’ve been told they do. This entire season was treated like a re-build to fix prior seasons. If this were 2015, it would be different. Instead Neal Brown and his staff completely rebuilt this program and it’s it been completely torn down due to bad decisions by multiple people. If my math is correct we have 3 defensive and 1 offensive coaches with no D1 experience, that affects on the field and recruiting in a major way. That’s unacceptable in my opinion. I’ve sat back and kept quiet this season on the message board but I’m over it now. We finished worse than we started. There’s nothing positive to build off of. Changes have to happen now or the portal will light up very soon.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 30, 2019 17:27:05 GMT -6
The first time EVER I think that this board is unified in one voice Something must be done. I am sorry because our HC should apologize and put the fire in the belly of the assistants. Something is wrong and the football team like it or not is one of the main draws to student life. Good football in the South equates MORE interest in coming to your school SUCKY DOES NOT. One year will not kill us but golly I have no idea who my team is IS not a response that should have been uttered. Sorry but I and everyone else on here is just plain pissed off and Brent hamstrings or not needs to Order (The HC we don’t speak of) to change some things. Oh I am sorry I am just strongly encouraging you to do this. I AINT no coach but I can call the other teams offensive plays on third down obviously better than our D coaches can in most of the time. Heck I am screaming where they are going most of the time. As an offensive coach I would love to play us
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 30, 2019 17:49:48 GMT -6
Yes at this time I am watching Aublow and Alacrapa and there was a third and long. The D backs were not 11 off and then giving a 6 yard drop on a 10 yard needed.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 30, 2019 18:17:00 GMT -6
Still watching the Alacrapa and Aublow 4th down 2 ft to go that is LONGER than 4 inches GO UNDER CENTER. Practice it!!’
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Post by chattvalleytrojan on Nov 30, 2019 21:39:16 GMT -6
(The HC we don’t speak of) was not fired by Auburn. relieved of play calling duties and next game they score 67 points He left because there was conflict between him and Gus. Gus was telling him how to run his offense. That Perdue team was awful.
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Post by chattvalleytrojan on Nov 30, 2019 21:42:05 GMT -6
No Bolt for me - was Butch Jones an offensive or defensive guy - Ted Roof is at App State and he has been around - pretty good coach imo Roof a good coach is laughable. App defense was built before he got there.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Nov 30, 2019 23:37:30 GMT -6
I also agree with Hemi and others that the S&C program appears to be a prob. Some of that is my assumptions based on injuries and performance. Some of that is some of the things Iâve been told they do. I questioned the hiring of SaJason Finley as soon as it was announced. The dude got fired by USM head coach Jay Hopson because Hopson didn't think his football team was getting the best results from the S&C program. That's straight from Hopson's mouth in an interview from last year. And then (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) hires him??? What??? Finley should've never landed at Troy after being shown the door at USM. Fans on the USM message board even warned us. He's the first guy that MUST go before anyone else. The S&C program has become a sack of horse crap in less than a year under Finley.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Dec 1, 2019 1:44:23 GMT -6
If you're talking about Sumrall for DC, go for it.
If you're talking about Sumrall for HC, sorry, we need to stop gambling on guys with no HC experience.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Dec 1, 2019 4:36:51 GMT -6
If you're talking about Sumrall for DC, go for it. If you're talking about Sumrall for HC, sorry, we need to stop gambling on guys with no HC experience. Troy hasn't hired a HC with prior college head coach experience since 1976. "Gambling' is our thing.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Dec 1, 2019 5:04:16 GMT -6
If you're talking about Sumrall for DC, go for it. If you're talking about Sumrall for HC, sorry, we need to stop gambling on guys with no HC experience. Troy hasn't hired a HC with prior college head coach experience since 1976. "Gambling' is our thing. That's true. That's how we got Maddox and (The HC we don’t speak of), and that's why we need to stop. Blakeneys and Browns are less common and our luck is running out.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 1, 2019 7:12:48 GMT -6
A lot of parallel thinking here. I agree with nohuddle, call Jon, tell him he gets to have complete control of the D and hire whomever he needs to get the job done. New AD than who was here when he didn’t get the job. I’ll be glad to forward his number to CL. I also agree with Hemi and others that the S&C program appears to be a prob. Some of that is my assumptions based on injuries and performance. Some of that is some of the things I’ve been told they do. This entire season was treated like a re-build to fix prior seasons. If this were 2015, it would be different. Instead Neal Brown and his staff completely rebuilt this program and it’s it been completely torn down due to bad decisions by multiple people. If my math is correct we have 3 defensive and 1 offensive coaches with no D1 experience, that affects on the field and recruiting in a major way. That’s unacceptable in my opinion. I’ve sat back and kept quiet this season on the message board but I’m over it now. We finished worse than we started. There’s nothing positive to build off of. Changes have to happen now or the portal will light up very soon. Yep. Here is our problem AD Brent is new as well and was heavily involved with AD McClain on hiring CL. All the SouthMiss connections. Alot of you were high as kites on him being named AD. We will see how he handles it. Without any law breaking or rules breaking CL is not getting fired. And with AD Brent at the helm CL is not in any danger of being forced to a lot of changing and probably has a long lead. This is the state of Troy football. At this point just pray it gets better, cause that all we got.
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Post by jonesoxygen on Dec 1, 2019 7:36:45 GMT -6
If you're talking about Sumrall for DC, go for it. If you're talking about Sumrall for HC, sorry, we need to stop gambling on guys with no HC experience. Troy hasn't hired a HC with prior college head coach experience since 1976. "Gambling' is our thing. Unless you have $1.9 million CL is not going anywhere so no need to discuss head coaching changes.
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Dec 1, 2019 7:43:18 GMT -6
Troy hasn't hired a HC with prior college head coach experience since 1976. "Gambling' is our thing. Unless you have $1.9 million CL is not going anywhere so no need to discuss head coaching changes. I said I'm willing to start a lemonade stand to front the costs but since you mention the price tag I'm now willing to expand to soft pretzels as well.
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 1, 2019 8:55:00 GMT -6
No Bolt for me - was Butch Jones an offensive or defensive guy - Ted Roof is at App State and he has been around - pretty good coach imo Roof a good coach is laughable. App defense was built before he got there. Troy team was built for success before (The HC we don’t speak of) arrived.
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