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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 30, 2024 14:15:48 GMT -6
I have no issue with pointing out problems as seen on the field, as experienced with personal interactions with staff, and how they may impact desired outcomes (winning). My issue, and I'm speaking on no one in particular at this point, is that some posters contribute to the conversation ONLY when they can criticize personnel or results. They never seem to have positive input and never seem willing to accept that perhaps, in spite of problems and less than desirable outcomes, there may be better days ahead and things may not be as dire as they portray. There are more than one of these type posters that not only contribute only to criticize, but they offer the same criticisms repeatedly, beating a dead horse if you will. I find it tiring and find myself tempted to completely block those individual's comments. I don't want to do that, I enjoy a good spirited discussion, but after a while, the constant negativity wears on me. Some people see life in general in a negative light and those people suck the live and joy out of others. Your point is a fair one for sure. Me personally, I would never want to block someone, whether I agree or disagree, I just believe the more opinions and viewpoints shared, contributed and debated back and forth is better for the Troy fan base. One thing, and have mentioned before, everyone here wants Troy to win, I appreciate that and that’s what having a strong core fan base is about. We just have different ways we see getting there. If everyone agreed this board would be pretty boring. Spirited senses are fun.
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Post by Trojanfan2 on Sept 30, 2024 14:27:29 GMT -6
I just look for improvement from week to week. Take care of the little things so they don't become big.
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Post by DothanGrad1998 on Sept 30, 2024 15:00:34 GMT -6
I just look for improvement from week to week. Take care of the little things so they don't become big. Start with better play calling and penalties. Obviously they focused strong on the running game against Monroe and it didn't help losing Goose at QB. The best play of the night was in the 2nd half when the read option worked perfectly. Do more RPO's. At this point, steal the playbook from NCAA 24 game. Too many penalties, especially on offense. They need more discipline. That is the coaching staff's fault.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Sept 30, 2024 15:40:29 GMT -6
We had 3 drives killed (first downs erased) because of holding penalties called on the same SENIOR offensive lineman, we had to kick he ball after a false start on 4th and 1 (if memory serves me, we missed that long FG), and we had a drive killed by 2 consecutive snaps that were on the ground by the time the ball go to the QB and on one of those, the ball rolled back to him...IT NEVER GOT OFF THE GROUND. These are things that show a lack of discipline (penalties) and a lack of coaching (continued bad snaps) and they can, and should be, fixed. I'd rather lose with guys who are playing the game correctly, than lose with guys that continue to show a lack of discipline, concentration, or skill. That's just me.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 30, 2024 16:30:47 GMT -6
I’m somewhere between aww shucks and a for sale sign on a lawn.
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Sept 30, 2024 17:17:51 GMT -6
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Post by troyfan on Oct 1, 2024 10:43:23 GMT -6
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 1, 2024 13:25:36 GMT -6
Parker said he: Promises to get the job done. It’s not just words They will finish this thing out. Ok. Hope it happens. Wonder what his timeframe is ? Believe it matters. This year ? Two or three year project ? 5 year plan ? Believe it’s fair to know what he believes when he will get the job done and finish this thing out. And what does a finished job look like ? 8 or 9 wins ? Championship(s)? Playoff spot ? If he doesn’t have have a general idea or a plan, well that would be an issue. Like building a house and not asking the contractor when he expects to be done. Will say it’s all words until the actions ever come to fruition.
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Post by Mr E 205 Legion on Oct 1, 2024 19:28:34 GMT -6
I will be honest and tell y’all for the first time this season I didn’t watch Trojan Talk. The reason, at about the halfway mark of the Monday Presser (a whopping 8 minutes long) coach made a statement that didn’t process well with me.
We have heard all of our coaches through the years use different terms. One I have heard a lot lately is “Culture” so when a reporter asked a question I was very interested to hear coach possibly go into a little more detail regarding what that term means TO HIM.
What I HEARD, HCGP - "our team has a belief & a vision together, that is all culture is".
I would be interested to hear y’all’s thoughts on that statement.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Oct 1, 2024 19:33:59 GMT -6
I will be honest and tell y’all for the first time this season I didn’t watch Trojan Talk. The reason, at about the halfway mark of the Monday Presser (a whopping 8 minutes long) coach made a statement that didn’t process well with me. We have heard all of our coaches through the years use different terms. One I have heard a lot lately is “Culture” so when a reporter asked a question I was very interested to hear coach possibly go into a little more detail regarding what that term means TO HIM. What I HEARD, HCGP - "our team has a belief & a vision together, that is all culture is". I would be interested to hear y’all’s thoughts on that statement. He’s not wrong. Your culture is your beliefs and values, it just seems like maybe he didn’t dive into it more and that doesn’t bother me.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 1, 2024 19:49:23 GMT -6
I will be honest and tell y’all for the first time this season I didn’t watch Trojan Talk. The reason, at about the halfway mark of the Monday Presser (a whopping 8 minutes long) coach made a statement that didn’t process well with me. We have heard all of our coaches through the years use different terms. One I have heard a lot lately is “Culture” so when a reporter asked a question I was very interested to hear coach possibly go into a little more detail regarding what that term means TO HIM. What I HEARD, HCGP - "our team has a belief & a vision together, that is all culture is". I would be interested to hear y’all’s thoughts on that statement. I'm a simpleton by nature (I blame genetics) but I think that you imply that action speaks louder than words. Kinda like "Hope and Change" without actionable details, strategy and execution, you wind up with "A coupla concepts??"
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Post by Mr E 205 Legion on Oct 1, 2024 20:15:08 GMT -6
We evidently have different interpretations of "Culture".
Coach sounds more like the “mind” aspect, while I definitely am more “action / behavior”!
I am constantly pushing ⚔️LCD⚔️ Leadership - Character - Discipline (some of these you CAN see).
COLLECTIVELY we have BOTH stated the COMPLETE definition of “Culture” - the attitudes & behaviors exhibited by a specific group.
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Post by fltrojan on Oct 2, 2024 5:43:30 GMT -6
there are good and great football coaches who just aren't head coaches. GP has a 1-10 record as a HC and that one win was over a mediocre HBCU that Mater Dei or IMG could probably beat. I'm hoping for the best but IMO he's another Charlie Weiss and Ron Zook
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Post by trojanocean on Oct 2, 2024 11:13:55 GMT -6
I'm intentionally staying very quiet this year. For one, I'm just not excited about Troy football 2024. I know that cuts against the grain of the masculine mentality and fandom of "footballfootballfootbal" during this time of year that most of you probably have and measure fandom by but though I value it highly, it does not hold the same place for me as it might for most of you. So I don't attache my identity as a fan to the level of juice I can squeeze out of myself over Troy football. Anyway, enough justifying my level of fandom and my peace with it....
Here's my sincere question: Sumrall left for many reasons but a big one of those has been reported to be that winning was going to be tough because we were going to be so young and inexperienced. And we're seeing that. However, we also know that he raped the staff and roster to take with him. So the staff was a winning one - that would be to this year's advantage. More importantly to my question though, he took some player talent too. So it would stand to reason that those players would've been playing and playing well at Troy had he stayed, leading us to not be SO anemic, young, and inexperienced...and actually making this 1-4 record possibly look more like a....4-1 record? I know I'm playing what if and that it was mostly a money/leadership respect(?) thing. I don't remember, nor care to do the work to look up, who all he took and what their stats as players were but it would seem that we might have had much more of a shot at not only winning but being on top had he stayed.
Secondly, less of a question and more of an observation maybe, Sumrall was a good coach, right? I even thought he was acknowledged to be a good recruiter. I can well-remember one of last year's Trojan Talks where he talked over some highlights to what was coming up in the depth of players who were already here and some of what would/could be coming to Troy this year and it sounded like the future was so bright! I guess it was used car salesman hype and that he really sucks at recruiting then. It boggles me how he could have prepared us so poorly and "you know who" could've recruited so well but sucked so bad as a coach. Y'all always say that Sumrall was playing with his recruits. It just doesn't compute to me. And money aside, it really still just makes me have such a low view of him to take advantage of the situation and then mozy on when the times got hard and you ACTUALLY had to work to get the wins.
Anyway...these are some things I just don't get and think about from time to time. Looks like had he stayed, we could have had the chance to be just as equally or at least competitively successful.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Oct 2, 2024 11:54:02 GMT -6
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Post by buzzlightyear on Oct 2, 2024 11:59:46 GMT -6
I'm intentionally staying very quiet this year. For one, I'm just not excited about Troy football 2024. I know that cuts against the grain of the masculine mentality and fandom of "footballfootballfootbal" during this time of year that most of you probably have and measure fandom by but though I value it highly, it does not hold the same place for me as it might for most of you. So I don't attache my identity as a fan to the level of juice I can squeeze out of myself over Troy football. Anyway, enough justifying my level of fandom and my peace with it.... Here's my sincere question: Sumrall left for many reasons but a big one of those has been reported to be that winning was going to be tough because we were going to be so young and inexperienced. And we're seeing that. However, we also know that he raped the staff and roster to take with him. So the staff was a winning one - that would be to this year's advantage. More importantly to my question though, he took some player talent too. So it would stand to reason that those players would've been playing and playing well at Troy had he stayed, leading us to not be SO anemic, young, and inexperienced...and actually making this 1-4 record possibly look more like a....4-1 record? I know I'm playing what if and that it was mostly a money/leadership respect(?) thing. I don't remember, nor care to do the work to look up, who all he took and what their stats as players were but it would seem that we might have had much more of a shot at not only winning but being on top had he stayed. Secondly, less of a question and more of an observation maybe, Sumrall was a good coach, right? I even thought he was acknowledged to be a good recruiter. I can well-remember one of last year's Trojan Talks where he talked over some highlights to what was coming up in the depth of players who were already here and some of what would/could be coming to Troy this year and it sounded like the future was so bright! I guess it was used car salesman hype and that he really sucks at recruiting then. It boggles me how he could have prepared us so poorly and "you know who" could've recruited so well but sucked so bad as a coach. Y'all always say that Sumrall was playing with his recruits. It just doesn't compute to me. And money aside, it really still just makes me have such a low view of him to take advantage of the situation and then mozy on when the times got hard and you ACTUALLY had to work to get the wins. Anyway...these are some things I just don't get and think about from time to time. Looks like had he stayed, we could have had the chance to be just as equally or at least competitively successful. Who?
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Post by foulpolephenom on Oct 2, 2024 13:58:51 GMT -6
I'm intentionally staying very quiet this year. For one, I'm just not excited about Troy football 2024. I know that cuts against the grain of the masculine mentality and fandom of "footballfootballfootbal" during this time of year that most of you probably have and measure fandom by but though I value it highly, it does not hold the same place for me as it might for most of you. So I don't attache my identity as a fan to the level of juice I can squeeze out of myself over Troy football. Anyway, enough justifying my level of fandom and my peace with it.... Here's my sincere question: Sumrall left for many reasons but a big one of those has been reported to be that winning was going to be tough because we were going to be so young and inexperienced. And we're seeing that. However, we also know that he raped the staff and roster to take with him. So the staff was a winning one - that would be to this year's advantage. More importantly to my question though, he took some player talent too. So it would stand to reason that those players would've been playing and playing well at Troy had he stayed, leading us to not be SO anemic, young, and inexperienced...and actually making this 1-4 record possibly look more like a....4-1 record? I know I'm playing what if and that it was mostly a money/leadership respect(?) thing. I don't remember, nor care to do the work to look up, who all he took and what their stats as players were but it would seem that we might have had much more of a shot at not only winning but being on top had he stayed. Secondly, less of a question and more of an observation maybe, Sumrall was a good coach, right? I even thought he was acknowledged to be a good recruiter. I can well-remember one of last year's Trojan Talks where he talked over some highlights to what was coming up in the depth of players who were already here and some of what would/could be coming to Troy this year and it sounded like the future was so bright! I guess it was used car salesman hype and that he really sucks at recruiting then. It boggles me how he could have prepared us so poorly and "you know who" could've recruited so well but sucked so bad as a coach. Y'all always say that Sumrall was playing with his recruits. It just doesn't compute to me. And money aside, it really still just makes me have such a low view of him to take advantage of the situation and then mozy on when the times got hard and you ACTUALLY had to work to get the wins. Anyway...these are some things I just don't get and think about from time to time. Looks like had he stayed, we could have had the chance to be just as equally or at least competitively successful. He took Derrick Graham (who originally went to A&M but transferred from there in spring), Caleb Ransaw, Chris Rodgers, Jack Tchienchou, and Deshaun Batiste. We also lost Jabre Barber to A&M, TJ Jackson to WVU. There were a couple of others that had smaller roles that left.
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Post by chattvalleytrojan on Oct 2, 2024 19:14:38 GMT -6
I'm intentionally staying very quiet this year. For one, I'm just not excited about Troy football 2024. I know that cuts against the grain of the masculine mentality and fandom of "footballfootballfootbal" during this time of year that most of you probably have and measure fandom by but though I value it highly, it does not hold the same place for me as it might for most of you. So I don't attache my identity as a fan to the level of juice I can squeeze out of myself over Troy football. Anyway, enough justifying my level of fandom and my peace with it.... Here's my sincere question: Sumrall left for many reasons but a big one of those has been reported to be that winning was going to be tough because we were going to be so young and inexperienced. And we're seeing that. However, we also know that he raped the staff and roster to take with him. So the staff was a winning one - that would be to this year's advantage. More importantly to my question though, he took some player talent too. So it would stand to reason that those players would've been playing and playing well at Troy had he stayed, leading us to not be SO anemic, young, and inexperienced...and actually making this 1-4 record possibly look more like a....4-1 record? I know I'm playing what if and that it was mostly a money/leadership respect(?) thing. I don't remember, nor care to do the work to look up, who all he took and what their stats as players were but it would seem that we might have had much more of a shot at not only winning but being on top had he stayed. Secondly, less of a question and more of an observation maybe, Sumrall was a good coach, right? I even thought he was acknowledged to be a good recruiter. I can well-remember one of last year's Trojan Talks where he talked over some highlights to what was coming up in the depth of players who were already here and some of what would/could be coming to Troy this year and it sounded like the future was so bright! I guess it was used car salesman hype and that he really sucks at recruiting then. It boggles me how he could have prepared us so poorly and "you know who" could've recruited so well but sucked so bad as a coach. Y'all always say that Sumrall was playing with his recruits. It just doesn't compute to me. And money aside, it really still just makes me have such a low view of him to take advantage of the situation and then mozy on when the times got hard and you ACTUALLY had to work to get the wins. Anyway...these are some things I just don't get and think about from time to time. Looks like had he stayed, we could have had the chance to be just as equally or at least competitively successful. He took Derrick Graham (who originally went to A&M but transferred from there in spring), Caleb Ransaw, Chris Rodgers, Jack Tchienchou, and Deshaun Batiste. We also lost Jabre Barber to A&M, TJ Jackson to WVU. There were a couple of others that had smaller roles that left. Didn’t Jayden McDonald go back to the Big Ten?
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Post by foulpolephenom on Oct 2, 2024 19:41:50 GMT -6
He took Derrick Graham (who originally went to A&M but transferred from there in spring), Caleb Ransaw, Chris Rodgers, Jack Tchienchou, and Deshaun Batiste. We also lost Jabre Barber to A&M, TJ Jackson to WVU. There were a couple of others that had smaller roles that left. Didn’t Jayden McDonald go back to the Big Ten? Forgot about him. He had committed to Indiana but looks like he ended up at UCONN
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Post by trojanmatt on Oct 3, 2024 20:53:50 GMT -6
1-5 is awful but I can’t help remember that we were told by HCJS that the future was bright for Troy and he endorsed HCGP. I also remember a glowing endorsement from NB as well as the HC at Notre Dame! After 6 games I think they owe us an apology ! Especially JS who said he had a five year plan that he was implementing in Troy! I am sure that 1-5 was not part of it nor was Leaving us and taking a lot of talent! I hope ADBJ is in GP’s office right now putting pressure on him to make some radical changes !
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Oct 3, 2024 20:56:57 GMT -6
Ok, I’m officially on the replace Parker team.
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Post by fltrojan on Oct 3, 2024 20:58:01 GMT -6
1-5 is awful but I can’t help remember that we were told by HCJS that the future was bright for Troy and he endorsed HCGP. I also remember a glowing endorsement from NB as well as the HC at Notre Dame! After 6 games I think they owe us an apology ! Especially JS who said he had a five year plan that he was implementing in Troy! I am sure that 1-5 was not part of it nor was Leaving us and taking a lot of talent! I hope ADBJ is in GP’s office right now putting pressure on him to make some radical changes ! Here's a thought. Stop hiring coaches that have been at 7 different schools in tht last seven seasons and don't hire one that lost a job because of a DUI and went 0-6 as interim HC
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Post by fltrojan on Oct 3, 2024 21:02:25 GMT -6
Ok, I’m officially on the replace Parker team. Enjoy him till 2026
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Post by cornhole on Oct 3, 2024 21:07:10 GMT -6
Ok, I’m officially on the replace Parker team. Enjoy him till 2026 ...or put your $$ where your replacement guides you. Put up, or.....
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Oct 3, 2024 21:09:12 GMT -6
...or put your $$ where your replacement guides you. Put up, or..... No. I didn’t hire this man. I’m done paying every time Janice F’s up.
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