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Post by trojany2k on Nov 22, 2021 18:42:36 GMT -6
After looking at some film, I REALLY like Ansley. Listening to Interim HCBH with Barry. Seems like a really sharp coach!
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 22, 2021 18:44:58 GMT -6
After looking at some film, I REALLY like Ansley. Listening to Interim HCBH with Barry. Seems like a really sharp coach! Your ears may have just been programmed to the idiocy of (The HC we don’t speak of). I stopped by some folks with chickens and they sounded better and more intelligent then (The HC we don’t speak of)
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 22, 2021 18:49:37 GMT -6
He does sound more inspiring then the Festus
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Post by ksdtrojan on Nov 22, 2021 19:08:17 GMT -6
Why would Derrick Ansley make the move?? 1) He's one of the highest paid DB Coaches in the NFL, earning a cool $1+ mill a year with Oakland after leaving Tennesee, where he grossed $1 Mill a year. His current salary with the Chargers is reported between $1 > $2 Mill. annually. Other NFL Coaches at his level earn up to $3 mill. 2) He's never been under the pressure of a HC and has not demonstrated the skills and intangibles required for the Job. A HC is the top manager of all facets of the Football Program, internal affairs, external affairs and PR, Press and Stakeholder relationships etc. I'm not convinced that he's a personality fit for the job. 3) Derrick's role in the NFL requires no recruiting, limited after/additional hours in the off season and minimal headaches. He focuses on what he's good at. Why would he want to take on the headaches of an NCAA HC when he's doing quite well where he is. 4) Risk. He's got a bright future in the NFL just doing his thing. Come to Troy, take on the headaches for a lateral salary shift, and possible fail... No security in NCAA Football these days. Nah, Derrick's no dummy. 5) The only draw for Derrick, IMO , is sentimental attachment to Troy U and he and his wife live closer to home. I just don't see it. good points but I will counter with he will need to get HC experience somewhere “IF” that’s the path he wants for his coaching career.
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Post by TrojanFanatic on Nov 22, 2021 19:47:07 GMT -6
Why would Derrick Ansley make the move?? 1) He's one of the highest paid DB Coaches in the NFL, earning a cool $1+ mill a year with Oakland after leaving Tennesee, where he grossed $1 Mill a year. His current salary with the Chargers is reported between $1 > $2 Mill. annually. Other NFL Coaches at his level earn up to $3 mill. 2) He's never been under the pressure of a HC and has not demonstrated the skills and intangibles required for the Job. A HC is the top manager of all facets of the Football Program, internal affairs, external affairs and PR, Press and Stakeholder relationships etc. I'm not convinced that he's a personality fit for the job. 3) Derrick's role in the NFL requires no recruiting, limited after/additional hours in the off season and minimal headaches. He focuses on what he's good at. Why would he want to take on the headaches of an NCAA HC when he's doing quite well where he is. 4) Risk. He's got a bright future in the NFL just doing his thing. Come to Troy, take on the headaches for a lateral salary shift, and possible fail... No security in NCAA Football these days. Nah, Derrick's no dummy. 5) The only draw for Derrick, IMO , is sentimental attachment to Troy U and he and his wife live closer to home. I just don't see it. good points but I will counter with he will need to get HC experience somewhere “IF” that’s the path he wants for his coaching career. And I think there in lies the question, is that the direction that he wants to go? Making a lateral move makes no sense other than to get HC experience, so we'll see. I know what my answer would be though
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Post by troyjan95 on Nov 22, 2021 19:58:48 GMT -6
700,000k in Troy is a whole lot of money Agree with previous posts in that if career path is to be a Head Coach this is a great opportunity for anyone who wants to take that step. Hope we hire somebody who will get an opportunity to leave on their terms.
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Post by Grant on Nov 22, 2021 20:07:45 GMT -6
700,000k in Troy is a whole lot of money Agree with previous posts in that if career path is to be a Head Coach this is a great opportunity for anyone who wants to take that step. Hope we hire somebody who will get an opportunity to leave on their terms. I think to keep up with where the Sunbelt is going, we HAVE to offer more than $700K. It would be very nice to be able to offer a coach $1M. I think that would attract significant talent, and would put us near the top of the SBC.
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Post by Troy_Fan_15 on Nov 22, 2021 20:11:00 GMT -6
700,000k in Troy is a whole lot of money Agree with previous posts in that if career path is to be a Head Coach this is a great opportunity for anyone who wants to take that step. Hope we hire somebody who will get an opportunity to leave on their terms. I think to keep up with where the Sunbelt is going, we HAVE to offer more than $700K. It would be very nice to be able to offer a coach $1M. I think that would attract significant talent, and would put us near the top of the SBC. A base salary of $1M would be 2nd in the SBC I believe. A few make high $800ks but with incentives make over $1M. We need to take a lesson from App State. Producing good assistant coaches who can fill in if the HC leaves.
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Post by cornhole on Nov 22, 2021 20:11:31 GMT -6
Why would Derrick Ansley make the move?? 1) He's one of the highest paid DB Coaches in the NFL, earning a cool $1+ mill a year with Oakland after leaving Tennesee, where he grossed $1 Mill a year. His current salary with the Chargers is reported between $1 > $2 Mill. annually. Other NFL Coaches at his level earn up to $3 mill. 2) He's never been under the pressure of a HC and has not demonstrated the skills and intangibles required for the Job. A HC is the top manager of all facets of the Football Program, internal affairs, external affairs and PR, Press and Stakeholder relationships etc. I'm not convinced that he's a personality fit for the job. 3) Derrick's role in the NFL requires no recruiting, limited after/additional hours in the off season and minimal headaches. He focuses on what he's good at. Why would he want to take on the headaches of an NCAA HC when he's doing quite well where he is. 4) Risk. He's got a bright future in the NFL just doing his thing. Come to Troy, take on the headaches for a lateral salary shift, and possible fail... No security in NCAA Football these days. Nah, Derrick's no dummy. 5) The only draw for Derrick, IMO , is sentimental attachment to Troy U and he and his wife live closer to home. I just don't see it. good points but I will counter with he will need to get HC experience somewhere “IF” that’s the path he wants for his coaching career. If Derrick aspires to Pro HC, the Pro DC path might serve him better; and pay ++$$$$.
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Post by troyjan95 on Nov 22, 2021 20:12:22 GMT -6
700,000k in Troy is a whole lot of money Agree with previous posts in that if career path is to be a Head Coach this is a great opportunity for anyone who wants to take that step. Hope we hire somebody who will get an opportunity to leave on their terms. I think to keep up with where the Sunbelt is going, we HAVE to offer more than $700K. It would be very nice to be able to offer a coach $1M. I think that would attract significant talent, and would put us near the top of the SBC. I would offer 700k and incentives- 25k per win first year with 100k bonus for win #8 That gets the coach to 1 million Don't disagree we need to offer $1M but that's a lot if we hire a guy without head coaching experience - and again, 700K in Troy is a whole lot of money anyway you slice it
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Post by troyjan95 on Nov 22, 2021 20:16:03 GMT -6
Prognosticating is so much fun
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Post by ksdtrojan on Nov 22, 2021 20:17:35 GMT -6
good points but I will counter with he will need to get HC experience somewhere “IF” that’s the path he wants for his coaching career. If Derrick aspires to Pro HC, the Pro DC path might serve him better; and pay ++$$$$. agreed
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Post by Mr. Ho on Nov 22, 2021 20:33:04 GMT -6
Why would Derrick Ansley make the move?? 1) He's one of the highest paid DB Coaches in the NFL, earning a cool $1+ mill a year with Oakland after leaving Tennesee, where he grossed $1 Mill a year. His current salary with the Chargers is reported between $1 > $2 Mill. annually. Other NFL Coaches at his level earn up to $3 mill. 2) He's never been under the pressure of a HC and has not demonstrated the skills and intangibles required for the Job. A HC is the top manager of all facets of the Football Program, internal affairs, external affairs and PR, Press and Stakeholder relationships etc. I'm not convinced that he's a personality fit for the job. 3) Derrick's role in the NFL requires no recruiting, limited after/additional hours in the off season and minimal headaches. He focuses on what he's good at. Why would he want to take on the headaches of an NCAA HC when he's doing quite well where he is. 4) Risk. He's got a bright future in the NFL just doing his thing. Come to Troy, take on the headaches for a lateral salary shift, and possible fail... No security in NCAA Football these days. Nah, Derrick's no dummy. 5) The only draw for Derrick, IMO , is sentimental attachment to Troy U and he and his wife live closer to home. I just don't see it. 1. $800k in Troy is like $7m in LAX. 2. Never under pressure? First of all, that's pretty laughable. He worked for Nick Satan - twice. He coaches professional athletes - probably most fragile position group of them all (maybe behind kickers), but the biggest egos out there. As far as personality goes, he majored in Communications. Which recruit would refuse to open the door for him - former All-American; former-NFL player; former NFL coach; two national championship rings. 3. Limited after/addtional hours in the off season and minimal headaches? That's a joke right? The NFL is 24/7/364 day a year job. 4. Risk? It's what makes America so great. High risk/high reward. Come to Troy. Be a hero. Get rewarded. Fail. Get back up and call the NFL. Somebody will always snap up talent. No security? Where is being a football coach secure? Ask Cornelius about security. And personally, it's a greater risk for Sumrall leaving Kentucky with a very limited resume. I am fine with DA or Jon, but I am not going to think of imaginary reasons for one or the other not to come to Troy.
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Post by cornhole on Nov 22, 2021 20:46:11 GMT -6
Why would Derrick Ansley make the move?? 1) He's one of the highest paid DB Coaches in the NFL, earning a cool $1+ mill a year with Oakland after leaving Tennesee, where he grossed $1 Mill a year. His current salary with the Chargers is reported between $1 > $2 Mill. annually. Other NFL Coaches at his level earn up to $3 mill. 2) He's never been under the pressure of a HC and has not demonstrated the skills and intangibles required for the Job. A HC is the top manager of all facets of the Football Program, internal affairs, external affairs and PR, Press and Stakeholder relationships etc. I'm not convinced that he's a personality fit for the job. 3) Derrick's role in the NFL requires no recruiting, limited after/additional hours in the off season and minimal headaches. He focuses on what he's good at. Why would he want to take on the headaches of an NCAA HC when he's doing quite well where he is. 4) Risk. He's got a bright future in the NFL just doing his thing. Come to Troy, take on the headaches for a lateral salary shift, and possible fail... No security in NCAA Football these days. Nah, Derrick's no dummy. 5) The only draw for Derrick, IMO , is sentimental attachment to Troy U and he and his wife live closer to home. I just don't see it. 1. $800k in Troy is like $7m in LAX. 2. Never under pressure? First of all, that's pretty laughable. He worked for Nick Satan - twice. He coaches professional athletes - probably most fragile position group of them all (maybe behind kickers), but the biggest egos out there. As far as personality goes, he majored in Communications. Which recruit would refuse to open the door for him - former All-American; former-NFL player; former NFL coach; two national championship rings. 3. Limited after/addtional hours in the off season and minimal headaches? That's a joke right? The NFL is 24/7/364 day a year job. 4. Risk? It's what makes America so great. High risk/high reward. Come to Troy. Be a hero. Get rewarded. Fail. Get back up and call the NFL. Somebody will always snap up talent. No security? Where is being a football coach secure? Ask Cornelius about security. And personally, it's a greater risk for Sumrall leaving Kentucky with a very limited resume. I am fine with DA or Jon, but I am not going to think of imaginary reasons for one or the other not to come to Troy.Good for you. Hopefully we get a chance to see what Derrick thinks.
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Post by biggtroy on Nov 23, 2021 0:08:25 GMT -6
Already hearing it's Sumrall with him bringing back another former HCNB Troy Assistant to be the new OC
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Post by troyjan95 on Nov 23, 2021 6:34:31 GMT -6
Already hearing it's Sumrall with him bringing back another former HCNB Troy Assistant to be the new OC Sources? Don't have to name actual names but "hearing" from whom?
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Post by foulpolephenom on Nov 23, 2021 6:55:24 GMT -6
Already hearing it's Sumrall with him bringing back another former HCNB Troy Assistant to be the new OC Sean Reagan?
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 23, 2021 7:35:27 GMT -6
Already hearing it's Sumrall with him bringing back another former HCNB Troy Assistant to be the new OC Sean Reagan? That is one of the rumors.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Nov 23, 2021 7:49:09 GMT -6
That is one of the rumors. I would support this move.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 23, 2021 8:05:24 GMT -6
Prognosticating is so much fun Dang isn't !!! Sumrall, with Reagan and keep Hall one more year cause there are some studs on that side of the ball for next year. The stats on that side will not go down and that maybe why Hall might wait another year (wishful thinking). Keep Whitt and please oh please find another O-line coach
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Post by Troystet on Nov 23, 2021 8:39:19 GMT -6
please oh please find another O-line coach
I don't know much in life, but offensive line I do know. I played it and coached it and I can tell you the two that Fester hired were beyond horrible. The first one knew his stuff but was absolutely horrendous at coaching it. The current one couldn't motivate anyone. Our OL played lethargic and IMO he never had the correct five on the field at the same time.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 23, 2021 9:16:32 GMT -6
please oh please find another O-line coach I don't know much in life, but offensive line I do know. I played it and coached it and I can tell you the two that Fester hired were beyond horrible. The first one knew his stuff but was absolutely horrendous at coaching it. The current one couldn't motivate anyone. Our OL played lethargic and IMO he never had the correct five on the field at the same time. I too don't think they were coached not well but....................................................................If I am on the R side of the line and they have 2 D lineman and two backers and we are running a supposed zone read to that side.....................................well you just ain't gonna look to dang good. Stupidity of play calling along with poor coaching and or player selection combines for making your O-line look worse than they are individually.
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Post by troyjan95 on Nov 23, 2021 9:18:08 GMT -6
That is one of the rumors. Hemi - does the new coach get a special loin cloth autographed by you? He should
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Post by biggtroy on Nov 23, 2021 9:24:24 GMT -6
Already hearing it's Sumrall with him bringing back another former HCNB Troy Assistant to be the new OC Sean Reagan? That's what I've been hearing both from some people here in Troy and a few out of town w/ connections. We shall see....all just rumors at this point.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 23, 2021 10:47:21 GMT -6
please oh please find another O-line coach I don't know much in life, but offensive line I do know. I played it and coached it and I can tell you the two that Fester hired were beyond horrible. The first one knew his stuff but was absolutely horrendous at coaching it. The current one couldn't motivate anyone. Our OL played lethargic and IMO he never had the correct five on the field at the same time. There’s some guys out there they played/ worked under both Schlarman and Moore making their way up the coaching ranks that might end up on the staff. Not necessarily as oline coach but in other capacities. Of course that all hinges on who is hired and who their connections are with in the coaching circles.
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