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Post by mlambertii on Oct 18, 2021 19:49:28 GMT -6
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Post by mlambertii on Oct 18, 2021 20:11:54 GMT -6
I say forgive the sinners.
Move Troy to the sunbelt west.
Sunbelt East: app, wku, mtsu, ga state, ga so, Marshall, coastal, FAU
Sunbelt West: ark state, Troy, south, Monroe, la tech, Laffy, southern miss, Texas state
Most of the historical rivalry games are intact with the teacher's colleges and Louisiana schools. We also pick up bowl options. Win-win. Adapt an SEC rival type schedule and rotate the rest. Southern Miss, South Alabama, and MTSU each year fill the Vet.
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Post by troy79 on Oct 18, 2021 20:14:50 GMT -6
I say forgive the sinners. Move Troy to the sunbelt west. Sunbelt East: app, wku, mtsu, ga state, ga so, Marshall, coastal, FAU Sunbelt West: ark state, Troy, south, Monroe, la tech, Laffy, southern miss, Texas state Most of the historical rivalry games are intact with the teacher's colleges and Louisiana schools. We also pick up bowl options. Win-win. Adapt an SEC rival type schedule and rotate the rest. Southern Miss, South Alabama, and MTSU each year fill the Vet.
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Post by troy79 on Oct 18, 2021 20:22:48 GMT -6
I say forgive the sinners. Move Troy to the sunbelt west. Sunbelt East: app, wku, mtsu, ga state, ga so, Marshall, coastal, FAU Sunbelt West: ark state, Troy, south, Monroe, la tech, Laffy, southern miss, Texas state Most of the historical rivalry games are intact with the teacher's colleges and Louisiana schools. We also pick up bowl options. Win-win. Adapt an SEC rival type schedule and rotate the rest. Southern Miss, South Alabama, and MTSU each year fill the Vet. My guess is that the Mountain West will take UTEP and possibly go after Texas State and maybe Arkansas State. Also could get NMSU and even LaTech. We need to be the aggressors and send invitations to the CUSA teams we want immediately. No time to be passive. FIU will be the only program remaining in Florida since the AAC wants FAU to go with South Florida. We need to go after the teams we want. Interesting times for sure! Go Troy!
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Post by mlambertii on Oct 18, 2021 20:28:11 GMT -6
Agreed. Bring the normal schools under then banner first. We don't want to be stuck taking Liberty, a school that could outspend us 10:1.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 18, 2021 20:56:52 GMT -6
Interesting times that we live in. How does this impact Men's/Lady's BBall and other minor sports??
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Post by trojanmatt on Oct 18, 2021 21:16:43 GMT -6
I’d love to see Southern Miss, Marshall and Liberty but as for the rest I’m not sure! FAU and MTSU ,used to be with the sunbelt and jumped ship looking for greener grass and while they thought they made a good move the sunbelt got stronger without them . As far as Liberty outspending us we need to do everything to keep up and elevate ourselves into the premier group of 5 or group of whatever is leftover after realignment. Competition breeds success and if you want to compete you need to keep up and figure it out!
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Post by mlambertii on Oct 18, 2021 21:27:39 GMT -6
I’d love to see Southern Miss, Marshall and Liberty but as for the rest I’m not sure! FAU and MTSU ,used to be with the sunbelt and jumped ship looking for greener grass and while they thought they made a good move the sunbelt got stronger without them . As far as Liberty outspending us we need to do everything to keep up and elevate ourselves into the premier group of 5 or group of whatever is leftover after realignment. Competition breeds success and if you want to compete you need to keep up and figure it out! Liberty has endowment fund larger than most SEC schools, Not sure any Sunbelt School can win that arms race.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 18, 2021 21:42:25 GMT -6
I’d love to see Southern Miss, Marshall and Liberty but as for the rest I’m not sure! FAU and MTSU , used to be with the sunbelt and jumped ship looking for greener grass and while they thought they made a good move the sunbelt got stronger without them . As far as Liberty outspending us we need to do everything to keep up and elevate ourselves into the premier group of 5 or group of whatever is leftover after realignment. Competition breeds success and if you want to compete you need to keep up and figure it out! Yeah, screw the MuTs and FAWhooo?. Had their chance. The only thing going for the MuTs is the compact footprint for Sunbelt. Liberty, despite, in spite of the $$ endowment will elevate the Sunbelt. Like you suggest... Let's keep up and figure it out! USM? Meh, let What's his Name wallow in neverland. I'd rather pursue a Tulane or LaTech.
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Post by trojanmatt on Oct 18, 2021 23:46:46 GMT -6
Interesting enough I had a decision to make between Troy and Liberty and I chose Troy! I chose Troy because I did not want to do the community service hours required to attend! I’m not sure what their policy is now but I know that there are some things that make Troy more appealing than Liberty to the average student! I do know they have a beautiful campus and the artificial snow skiing hill is awesome Liberty has the ability to be the favorite of every fire and brimstone baptist just like Norte Dame is to Catholics but only time will tell. Either way , I think they would be a great addition to the Sunbelt and help us as a whole to compete with the elitist P5 and hopefully elevate us to the number 1 G5 and we can all have a shot at getting into the top 12 to throw a monkey wrench into the system
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Post by Troystet on Oct 19, 2021 6:59:29 GMT -6
Having FIU is not a bad idea. Playing a game every two years in FL gives us exposure and if we actually drove past I-10 we could actually recruit the talent heavy area I-4 South. If we add Liberty and Marshall and remain in the Sun Belt East that will be a tough road for us. The East will have the premier schools and the West will be La La's play ground. Adding Southern Miss, Marshall, FIU, and MTSU I like. Even WKU will be good. Recruiting is a National Level now. If we continue to just try to recruit a 300 mile radius we are doomed. We have to recruit AL, GA, FL, MS, LA, TN, NC, SC, KY and TX at the least. Playing schools in these states gives recruits a chance to see Troy play that might not be able to make a 500 mile drive the day after a HS game.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 19, 2021 7:03:26 GMT -6
Interesting enough I had a decision to make between Troy and Liberty and I chose Troy! I chose Troy because I did not want to do the community service hours required to attend! I’m not sure what their policy is now but I know that there are some things that make Troy more appealing than Liberty to the average student! I do know they have a beautiful campus and the artificial snow skiing hill is awesome Liberty has the ability to be the favorite of every fire and brimstone baptist just like Norte Dame is to Catholics but only time will tell. Either way , I think they would be a great addition to the Sunbelt and help us as a whole to compete with the elitist P5 and hopefully elevate us to the number 1 G5 and we can all have a shot at getting into the top 12 to throw a monkey wrench into the system Liberty has relaxed it's standards from when we in college. My chiropractor was actually the qb for Liberty when they beat us in 1992 and in 1993 when we got out revenge. We he attended you had to wear a shirt and tie to class. They no longer do that along with the dress codes
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Post by trojanmatt on Oct 19, 2021 7:40:58 GMT -6
I agree that a Florida team would be great to add but the problem is by adding FIU you get another program similar to ULM! They don’t care about winning and seem to be at the bottom of the barrel of their conference year in and year out!
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Post by Troystet on Oct 19, 2021 8:15:36 GMT -6
I agree that a Florida team would be great to add but the problem is by adding FIU you get another program similar to ULM! They don’t care about winning and seem to be at the bottom of the barrel of their conference year in and year out! I agree but they are the only choice for adding a FL school. UCF, USF, and FAU are moving on. They won't be any worse in the other sports than App St. They pretty much win in football and that's it.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Oct 19, 2021 10:26:57 GMT -6
Not keen on FIU for already addressed issues. The more I investigate schools I like JMU as an add. I think we find out pretty soon
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Post by Hemi Man on Oct 19, 2021 12:03:10 GMT -6
Not keen on FIU for already addressed issues. The more I investigate schools I like JMU as an add. I think we find out pretty soon Is JMU moving up to FBS? The only issue with Liberty, JMU, and Marshall is the travel for non-revenue schools and even football airfare. Sending women's soccer and softball to West Virginia and Virginia and Texas gets expensive. Liberty is 2 miles further than FIU, Marshall is 30 miles and JMU around 95 miles.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 19, 2021 12:05:29 GMT -6
Is JMU moving up to FBS? The only issue with Liberty, JMU, and Marshall is the travel for non-revenue schools and even football airfare. Sending women's soccer and softball to West Virginia and Virginia and Texas gets expensive. Liberty is 2 miles further than FIU, Marshall is 30 miles and JMU around 95 miles. But it's all Interstate to FI Who lol. Good point though. Sure looks farther on a map. Not a fan of FIU but it would be nice to play games in FL. It takes me a good 5-6 hours to get to Miami. About the same to Troy. Still hoping to get a home/away with UCF or USF
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Post by trojanmatt on Oct 19, 2021 13:11:50 GMT -6
Miami doesn’t support their teams very well! Attendance is usually very low especially at FIU. Look for a home and home with UCF to happen in about 6 years. The new AD at UCF used to be at Ark State and I think they have a really good real Fiona hip with BJ
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Post by troyjan95 on Oct 19, 2021 20:47:14 GMT -6
www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32432496/six-schools-officially-apply-join-american-athletic-conferenceSo FIU, Marshall, WKU, Middle Tenn., Old Dominion, UTEP, La Tech & Southern Miss get left behind What if - Coastal, App State, Liberty, La. Lafayette & South Alabama join Conference USA. I don't think C-USA is going to sit back and not try to take teams from the Sunbelt or anywhere else they can. Now, if Marshall and Southern Miss are already jumping ship to the Sunbelt, that may change things. But don't be surprised if App, Rajin Cajuns, South - Coastal may be a stretch but they did win a National Championship in baseball are pursued by conferences.
I HOPE WE DO NOT TAKE -
Middle Tenn - they thought they were too good FIU - they should join the Miami Rec League - maybe they can win La Tech - what does Ruston have to offer - now if ULM decided to leave the Sunbelt - come on La Tech
Should we add the below - yes
Old Dominion - nice
WKU - always liked the Hilltoppers and Bowling Green
Southern Miss - great fit
Marshall - don't understand why AAC would not want these guys - great brand
GO TROY!
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Post by scatman on Oct 20, 2021 0:21:38 GMT -6
Does it almost feel like this group of six are just a bunch of polished turds? I don't understand how they aren't grabbing Marshall... I understand that at least 3 of those schools have recent new stadiums and some have shown promise, but this feels like 2012 all over again. I understand someone like UTSA is in a good spot right now and 7-0 this year in football... But it just seems like the AAC is going for "market shares" and not actually concerned about travel and fan interaction and involvement. Whenever I see UAB unveil a new stadium with a really good coaching staff and they could still fit everyone on one side of the stadium... That ain't who I'm gonna add.
Also, to our conference mates, if you'd leave the Belt for either of these conferences... Good riddance. But I'd be very happy if someone like the Jagoffs took a hike.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 20, 2021 7:37:56 GMT -6
If C-USA is going after anyone it will be ULL, USA, Ga State, Liberty, Coastal and possibly GATA. App is like us geography wise and doesn't bring anything to the table except football. Don't be surprised if he AAC doesn't go after Coastal and La La
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Post by foulpolephenom on Oct 20, 2021 7:49:01 GMT -6
If C-USA is going after anyone it will be ULL, USA, Ga State, Liberty, Coastal and possibly GATA. App is like us geography wise and doesn't bring anything to the table except football. Don't be surprised if he AAC doesn't go after Coastal and La La C-USA is going to fall apart and get poached. Don't see those schools going anywhere but the Sun Belt growing. Liberty isn't going to a conference right now, ADs don't want to have to compete with those resources they have.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 20, 2021 8:05:42 GMT -6
If C-USA is going after anyone it will be ULL, USA, Ga State, Liberty, Coastal and possibly GATA. App is like us geography wise and doesn't bring anything to the table except football. Don't be surprised if he AAC doesn't go after Coastal and La La C-USA is going to fall apart and get poached. Don't see those schools going anywhere but the Sun Belt growing. Liberty isn't going to a conference right now, ADs don't want to have to compete with those resources they have. Sun Belt is a better conference but C-USA will put up a fight. Money talks, schools walk. It is interesting all this conference realignment going on right now
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Post by foulpolephenom on Oct 20, 2021 8:30:54 GMT -6
C-USA is going to fall apart and get poached. Don't see those schools going anywhere but the Sun Belt growing. Liberty isn't going to a conference right now, ADs don't want to have to compete with those resources they have. Sun Belt is a better conference but C-USA will put up a fight. Money talks, schools walk. It is interesting all this conference realignment going on right now Do agree it's interesting. I just think Sun Belt is in better position, especially football wise, so the money C-USA has to offer may not be worth it.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 20, 2021 8:57:35 GMT -6
I agree that a Florida team would be great to add but the problem is by adding FIU you get another program similar to ULM! They don’t care about winning and seem to be at the bottom of the barrel of their conference year in and year out! True this. Attended several Troy vs FIU games there and NOBODY there gives a rat's rear about College Athletics. For 2021 (current) season, the Florida Marlins MLB Team is #LAST in attendance at home games, out of 30 total MLB teams. Per ESPN, the Marlins are tracking an average of 7,933 attendees at Home games, about 1/3 of 2021 MLB average. www.espn.com/mlb/attendanceRecruiting? Best bet in those parts would be a Club Soccer honcho for kicking Field Goals. If Troy needs one, they'll go find him. If Cusa fails, there will be better candidates for Sunbelt.
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