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Post by doug4troy on May 19, 2014 12:04:40 GMT -6
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Post by Troystet on May 19, 2014 12:09:59 GMT -6
John Hartwell, hire Kevin Fagan at CFCC. You hire him, the program wins. Just led them to #2 in the country in his first year, and this team only won. 13 games 2years ago. Proven winner and we can get him now.
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Post by Troystet on May 19, 2014 13:01:50 GMT -6
Emailed Dr. Hawkins and Mr. Hartwell. We hire Kevin Fagan we win. We can't hire a more qualified coach. The man is a winner. High school national championship, ASA national championship, #2 national juco finish in first season. We want a winner?? Here's our chance.
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Post by atlantatrojan on May 19, 2014 14:19:44 GMT -6
Emailed Dr. Hawkins and Mr. Hartwell. We hire Kevin Fagan we win. We can't hire a more qualified coach. The man is a winner. High school national championship, ASA national championship, #2 national juco finish in first season. We want a winner?? Here's our chance. Not saying he wouldn't be good but doesn't mean he will do well at the D1 level.
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Post by Troystet on May 19, 2014 14:25:36 GMT -6
Trust me, the man won a ASA gold national championship which is the highest level..all d1 players. He is an outstanding fundemental coach and he has won everywhere he has been. As a coach and as a football player. There is no one Troy could hire any better and that's a fact. Juco success didn't seem to bother them hiring Rigsby.
We hire him, we win and that's a fact.
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Post by Hemi Man on May 19, 2014 15:11:28 GMT -6
Personally, I am a fan of the term nationwide search !
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Post by foulpolephenom on May 19, 2014 15:15:51 GMT -6
Jimmy Kolaitis. Was a former Director of Baseball Ops here at Troy before going on to be an assistant softball coach at South and is currently an assistant at Oregon, one of the top ranked teams in the country. Bring him back this way!
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Post by Troystet on May 19, 2014 15:24:32 GMT -6
Would love to see him to, he built USA, but I seriously doubt he will come. You all might not agree but I'm telling you, hire Fagan and you have a winner.
Kolatis recruited his daughter to USA. She was Sun Belt freshman of the year in 2013. She transferred to Auburn the minute he left for a Oregon.
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Post by Troystet on May 19, 2014 15:26:01 GMT -6
Personally, I am a fan of the term nationwide search ! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Search all you want. You can hire Fagan now and win next year or take your chances on a unproven assistant some where. Some people are winners..period. He is a winner.
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Post by trojanbrutha on May 19, 2014 16:39:32 GMT -6
Jimmy Kolaitis. Was a former Director of Baseball Ops here at Troy before going on to be an assistant softball coach at South and is currently an assistant at Oregon, one of the top ranked teams in the country. Bring him back this way! Drew Champlin @drewchamplin @troyathletics make the call to Oregon assistant James Kolaitis. He's got a bright future
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Post by Troystet on May 19, 2014 17:32:05 GMT -6
Jimmy Kolaitis. Was a former Director of Baseball Ops here at Troy before going on to be an assistant softball coach at South and is currently an assistant at Oregon, one of the top ranked teams in the country. Bring him back this way! Drew Champlin @drewchamplin @troyathletics make the call to Oregon assistant James Kolaitis. He's got a bright future He can recruit, no doubt. He would be a great choice but I doubt he would take the job. He is the one who turned USA into a power.
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Post by Hemi Man on May 19, 2014 19:46:47 GMT -6
Looks like Kolaitis, as an assistant at Oregon, makes similar to what Melanie was making as head coach. I believe his wife may work at Oregon as well. Could Troy offer enough to bring him home?
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Post by Troystet on May 19, 2014 20:00:37 GMT -6
Hire Kevin Fagan and it won't matter. We instantly turn the program around. To watch one of his practices and you see why this guy is a winner. He knows the ASA gold summer series and how you recruit it. Whoever gets it better know how to do that and stop what we had gotten into, solely relying on a summer camp to recruit.
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Post by Hemi Man on May 19, 2014 20:10:20 GMT -6
Hire Kevin Fagan and it won't matter. We instantly turn the program around. To watch one of his practices and you see why this guy is a winner. He knows the ASA gold summer series and how you recruit it. Whoever gets it better know how to do that and stop what we had gotten into, solely relying on a summer camp to recruit. I feel like John Hartwell had a short list of candidates before the announcement was made and will hire the best person for the job. However, I don't think the decision should be rushed. A strong recruiter will likely be a top priority. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Troystet on May 20, 2014 6:31:56 GMT -6
Here is the short list:
Kevin Fagan
That's all you need, believe me. You hire him within 4 years we are beating ULL
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Post by Hemi Man on May 20, 2014 9:16:53 GMT -6
Here is the short list: Kevin Fagan That's all you need, believe me. You hire him within 4 years we are beating ULL “Fast-pitch has really been my passion for the last few years,” said Fagan, who recently earned his degree in criminal justice. “Becoming a head coach (at the college level) has been my plan all along, and I am very excited about this opportunity. “I really enjoy (coaching) football (a sport he has coached at Dunnellon High the past few years), but softball is where my passion is. www.ocala.com/article/20130625/SPORTS/130629847So you think the best coach Troy can find is a guy that was coaching football a little over a year ago and volunteering as a coach at the community college level? He just coached his first year at a community college. Do you think he can recruit against SoBama, ULL, Auburn, FSU, and Alabama? I'm sure your friend is a good guy, but I don't think he's ready to be a D1 softball coach. Not yet anyway. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Troystet on May 20, 2014 10:07:03 GMT -6
He could out coach Melanie with his eyes closed. He coached back to back state champs and a ESPN rise national champion team with a town that is 1/10th side of Troy, AL. His teams beat Hannah Rogers (UF) in 2009 for the title and Jackie Traina ( 73 mph at Alabama) in 2010 plus coached the 2012 ASA Gold national champs beating all the west coast teams. He coached three daughters currently playing SEC ball with one the Gatorade National Player of the year. He has coached high level softball against the best teams in the U.S. He is more qualified coming out of juco than our current womens bb coach, that much I assure you.
He volunteered to help the HS his son plays on, while still doing softball and yes he was an all pro with two Super Bowl rings which makes him qualified to coach. His passion is softball and I am telling you, we pass on him it is the biggest mistake we will ever make. He will get picked up by someone and whoever gets him will get a championship program. He knows more about the game, how to coach it, and how to get players to perform at championship levels than anyone I have ever seen. Yes, I know him, but ask anyone including Jimmy Kolatis who knows him also and they will tell you what kind of coach he is. I would think the same thing if he was a stranger, his results speaks volumes.
No one I have seen runs a practice the way he does. Every minute is scheduled and used. He will recruit, he knows talent and where it is. His work ethic is unquestioned. I will take him over some asst. Coach somewhere. I already know he is a winner. And as far as recruiting against the teams listed, we aren't doing it now because no effort was made. You don't agree and that's fine, I just know what we would get in him and that is a championship coach. I don't care what level, a winner is a winner. Gus Malzahn was a HS coach as was Hugh Freeze. Guess they weren't ready for D1 either???
Sorry about being so passionate on this but I see a golden opportunity for Troy.
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Post by Hemi Man on May 20, 2014 15:53:19 GMT -6
He could out coach Melanie with his eyes closed. He coached back to back state champs and a ESPN rise national champion team with a town that is 1/10th side of Troy, AL. His teams beat Hannah Rogers (UF) in 2009 for the title and Jackie Traina ( 73 mph at Alabama) in 2010 plus coached the 2012 ASA Gold national champs beating all the west coast teams. He coached three daughters currently playing SEC ball with one the Gatorade National Player of the year. He has coached high level softball against the best teams in the U.S. He is more qualified coming out of juco than our current womens bb coach, that much I assure you. He volunteered to help the HS his son plays on, while still doing softball and yes he was an all pro with two Super Bowl rings which makes him qualified to coach. His passion is softball and I am telling you, we pass on him it is the biggest mistake we will ever make. He will get picked up by someone and whoever gets him will get a championship program. He knows more about the game, how to coach it, and how to get players to perform at championship levels than anyone I have ever seen. Yes, I know him, but ask anyone including Jimmy Kolatis who knows him also and they will tell you what kind of coach he is. I would think the same thing if he was a stranger, his results speaks volumes. No one I have seen runs a practice the way he does. Every minute is scheduled and used. He will recruit, he knows talent and where it is. His work ethic is unquestioned. I will take him over some asst. Coach somewhere. I already know he is a winner. And as far as recruiting against the teams listed, we aren't doing it now because no effort was made. You don't agree and that's fine, I just know what we would get in him and that is a championship coach. I don't care what level, a winner is a winner. Gus Malzahn was a HS coach as was Hugh Freeze. Guess they weren't ready for D1 either??? Sorry about being so passionate on this but I see a golden opportunity for Troy. According to you he is more qualified than our current women's basketball coach was coming out of juco . Ok let's compare their resumes. www.cfsoftballcamps.com/head-coach-kevin-fagan.cfmwww.troytrojans.com/news/2012/4/11/WBB_0411123512.aspx?path=wbballHe's been coaching softball 5 years. He is in his first year being paid to coach. Hugh Freeze has been coaching since 1992. Malzahn since 1991. Malzahn was a D1 college coach 6 years before getting a head coaching job. Freeze coaches at the college level 6 years before becoming a head coach as well. He's never had to recruit anyone to play for him. He was a football coach volunteering to coach softball. He may turn out to be a good one, but he needs to prove himself before becoming a D1 coach. Nothing wrong with him working his way up the ladder. Just a question. How many Troy softball games have you ever watched? The talent level is nowhere hear what it wax when Ashlyn, Heidi, Nikki, Hayden, Rocky were there just a few years back. We need a recruiter first!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Troystet on May 20, 2014 18:06:51 GMT -6
I have seen several Troy softball games and I 100% agree the talent level is way down. We got away from recruiting where the talent was. We had great success actually with the Australian and west coast players. We joke here about the UF softball team because they are probably 75% California and Arizona players. You won't compete at d1 softball just recruiting local players around Troy, there are good players just not enough of them. Talent in softball is California, Arizona, Texas, Florida and Georgia. Got to recruit aggressively and stop using the camp to recruit. Get our buts to ASA gold tournaments that is where the big dogs hunt and there is plenty of talent to get, especially with the facility we have. I have been around high level travel ball for years and my daughter was a very good player until a shoulder injury ended her career. Several girls I coached are playing d1, one actually at USA. Talking with them one thing was clear, they didn't see Troy coaches at these gold level ASA tournaments. If they were nobody knew. Got to be at these, no if and or buts.
But you have to coach them after recruiting them. We need a coach that can do both.
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Post by sballalumni2 on May 21, 2014 10:58:13 GMT -6
I am glad to see this discussion on softball! I do not know anything about Kevin Fagan as a coach, but his daughters have been in a lot of trouble and even were kicked off the UF softball team right before the regional tournament. They are very good players, and from the information I was provided, they are trouble and even talent coulnd't save them. I would rather not see that kind of environment in Troy softball. There are several qualified coaches out there, and I would go after Windy Thees. She was at Ole Miss, but that job is a dead end job because someone has to finish last in the SEC. She played at FSU and started her career coaching in the area, so I hope she will apply.
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Post by Troystet on May 21, 2014 11:17:15 GMT -6
I am glad to see this discussion on softball! I do not know anything about Kevin Fagan as a coach, but his daughters have been in a lot of trouble and even were kicked off the UF softball team right before the regional tournament. They are very good players, and from the information I was provided, they are trouble and even talent coulnd't save them. I would rather not see that kind of environment in Troy softball. There are several qualified coaches out there, and I would go after Windy Thees. She was at Ole Miss, but that job is a dead end job because someone has to finish last in the SEC. She played at FSU and started her career coaching in the area, so I hope she will apply. Please don't talk about something you know nothing about. I know those girls well. One was valedictorian of her class the other had over a 4.0 GPA. They are outstanding girls. The incident involved one of them being jumped in the locker room. I won't go into specifics but the coach decided he would side with a certain group. There was another girl let go also that immediately transferred to Arizona State. If they were trouble why were schools clamoring to get them?? They are both happy to be out of that environment and both had immediate calls from schools all over the country. They both transferred to other SEC schools to be able to play the Gators. Kevin is a strict disciplinarian and those two girls don't get any finer. Great, great family. I know what happened and it was not their doing. Even without being kicked off, he would have yanked them off that team. Trouble is the furthest thing from those girls. You don't get better girls than those two. So you would rather hire a coach who finished in last place? I think we need a male coach. Nothing against women coaches but it seems that the vast majority of the top programs...Arizona, Arizona State, Alabama, F lorida, ULL, Missouri, Tennessee and others have male coaches. There is a certain thing you get with a lot of female coaches...not all, but a majority.
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Post by sballalumni2 on May 21, 2014 11:44:24 GMT -6
The Fagan girls have been debated on many message boards, and I don't want to get into it on this one. It is a fact that two of the best players on the UF softball team were kicked off the team right before a Regional tournament and I don't think Tim Walton would do that if they were completely innocent. Windy Thees won at Memphis and frankly she didn't have time to recruit her own players at Ole Miss. Ole Miss is just not going to get the talent that the top-tier schools in the SEC are going to get, so anyone who takes that job is going to need some luck or a late bloomer recruit (think Farish Beard). I have heard good things about Jimmy Kolaitis, but I suspect there will be some great teams after him as well.
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Post by Troystet on May 21, 2014 11:55:38 GMT -6
The Fagan girls have been debated on many message boards, and I don't want to get into it on this one. It is a fact that two of the best players on the UF softball team were kicked off the team right before a Regional tournament and I don't think Tim Walton would do that if they were completely innocent. Windy Thees won at Memphis and frankly she didn't have time to recruit her own players at Ole Miss. Ole Miss is just not going to get the talent that the top-tier schools in the SEC are going to get, so anyone who takes that job is going to need some luck or a late bloomer recruit (think Farish Beard). I have heard good things about Jimmy Kolaitis, but I suspect there will be some great teams after him as well. All I am telling you is I know what happened. You can believe what you want on a message board. Tim Walton is a arrogant, ego trip to begin with. Why do you think he never said why they were released??? He took sides. 10 plus of a group, 3 of another. So do you release 3 or 3/4 of your team ? Jimmy Kolatis would be a great pick, but I don't think he has any desire to return to Troy. We need a winner. Winners win everywhere they go. Jimmy Kolatis is a great example of this, he was the one who recruited the talent to USA. We also might want to look at the Valdosta St. Coach. They were D11 national champs last year. They are in it again this year. Great coach and proven winner. Only problem might be that he and his wife are VSU alumni. Great choice though..proven winner.
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Post by Hemi Man on May 21, 2014 14:37:23 GMT -6
The Fagan girls have been debated on many message boards, and I don't want to get into it on this one. It is a fact that two of the best players on the UF softball team were kicked off the team right before a Regional tournament and I don't think Tim Walton would do that if they were completely innocent. Windy Thees won at Memphis and frankly she didn't have time to recruit her own players at Ole Miss. Ole Miss is just not going to get the talent that the top-tier schools in the SEC are going to get, so anyone who takes that job is going to need some luck or a late bloomer recruit (think Farish Beard). I have heard good things about Jimmy Kolaitis, but I suspect there will be some great teams after him as well. All I am telling you is I know what happened. You can believe what you want on a message board. Tim Walton is a arrogant, ego trip to begin with. Why do you think he never said why they were released??? He took sides. 10 plus of a group, 3 of another. So do you release 3 or 3/4 of your team ? Jimmy Kolatis would be a great pick, but I don't think he has any desire to return to Troy. We need a winner. Winners win everywhere they go. Jimmy Kolatis is a great example of this, he was the one who recruited the talent to USA. We also might want to look at the Valdosta St. Coach. They were D11 national champs last year. They are in it again this year. Great coach and proven winner. Only problem might be that he and his wife are VSU alumni. Great choice though..proven winner. What makes you think Kolaitis has no desire to return to Troy? Have you spoken with him? In my opinion he must be option A! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Troystet on May 21, 2014 18:05:40 GMT -6
All I am telling you is I know what happened. You can believe what you want on a message board. Tim Walton is a arrogant, ego trip to begin with. Why do you think he never said why they were released??? He took sides. 10 plus of a group, 3 of another. So do you release 3 or 3/4 of your team ? Jimmy Kolatis would be a great pick, but I don't think he has any desire to return to Troy. We need a winner. Winners win everywhere they go. Jimmy Kolatis is a great example of this, he was the one who recruited the talent to USA. We also might want to look at the Valdosta St. Coach. They were D11 national champs last year. They are in it again this year. Great coach and proven winner. Only problem might be that he and his wife are VSU alumni. Great choice though..proven winner. What makes you think Kolaitis has no desire to return to Troy? Have you spoken with him? In my opinion he must be option A! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk someone that knows him said that. Money talks and that could help. I think from what I heard is he is a good position out west to possibly move up out there. Softball has greatly improved in the southeast but California and that area is absolutely loaded with talent. But I agree he should be an option, no question about it. He was the recruiter for USA, he got the talent there. I also like the coach at Valdosta St. National champs last year and a great shot at repeating this year. Only problem there is he and his wife our VSU alum. He maybe doesn't want to leave but he is definetely worth a look
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