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Post by sballalumni2 on Jun 6, 2014 9:56:15 GMT -6
Have there been any coaches on campus interviewing? I know of at least one that applied and have heard through the grapevine that several of the above mentioned are interested in the position.
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Post by Hemi Man on Jun 6, 2014 10:14:59 GMT -6
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Post by Troystet on Jun 6, 2014 11:37:49 GMT -6
Hope we get a male coach. Almost every top program..Florida, Alabama, Oregon, Arizona, Arizona State and even ULL have male coaches.
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Post by sballalumni2 on Jun 6, 2014 13:33:23 GMT -6
I guess it doesn't matter to me either way, male or female, but I want someone that can recruit. I feel like if we can get those high caliber players to campus, then the Troy atmosphere will impress them and maybe a top pitcher or two will make the difference. The players like the big name schools, regardless of whether the college is the right fit, has their major, or if they will even get playing time.
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Post by Troystet on Jun 6, 2014 15:41:28 GMT -6
Needs to be a male this time. Men have had more success at softball coaching overall and it eliminates another area that can hamper recruiting. I know a few parents of D1 athletes and this was a huge concern.
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Post by doug4troy on Jun 6, 2014 20:16:53 GMT -6
Just hope we make a good hire. Male or female.
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Post by troy1234 on Jun 7, 2014 6:43:20 GMT -6
I think you are looking at the troy job the wrong way. Troy needs to hire a coach that has proven he/she can develop an athlete not just a recruiter. Troy is not going to get the #1 or #2 in a state but they could get an athlete and develop into a competitor with a (The HC we don’t speak of) on her shoulders. In the names you provided so far, none are proven. Fagan has competed with great talent and took cfcc to nationals. They was one win away the year before with out him. I don't know kolitas well but by all accounts he is a recruitor with no head coaching experience. Great assistant. Name from state of Oklahoma is interesting but nothing confirmed. Local names are Arkansas Asst, Chipola couple, GT head and past assistance.
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Post by Troystet on Jun 7, 2014 10:54:59 GMT -6
I think you are looking at the troy job the wrong way. Troy needs to hire a coach that has proven he/she can develop an athlete not just a recruiter. Troy is not going to get the #1 or #2 in a state but they could get an athlete and develop into a competitor with a (The HC we don’t speak of) on her shoulders. In the names you provided so far, none are proven. Fagan has competed with great talent and took cfcc to nationals. They was one win away the year before with out him. I don't know kolitas well but by all accounts he is a recruitor with no head coaching experience. Great assistant. Name from state of Oklahoma is interesting but nothing confirmed. Local names are Arkansas Asst, Chipola couple, GT head and past assistance. To clarify a few things on Fagan. In 2012 CFCC won 14 games. He worked as an assistant ( in title only) in 2013 ( they could not hire him because he was finishing his degree). He ran everything in 2013 including 3rd base coach. He made the decisions, he turned them around. It was done with him, not without him. He won two state championships and a national title at Dunnellon (FL) HS and beat for the two titles the two pitchers who faced off in the National Championship this year...Hannah Rogers (Florida) via Lake Wales HS beat by Dunnellon in 2009 and Jackie Traina (Alabama) via Naples HS beat for the title in 2010. Is he qualified?? Yes.
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Post by troy1234 on Jun 7, 2014 13:04:35 GMT -6
Sorry just went off website about Fagan. But rumor today is he hasn't interviewed so might be a non topic. Add AUM to the conversation. Built program to a national championship this year. Chipola couple, hendricks came up again. Good resume but no NCAA experience. That's my question on all community college coaches. Can they compete and recruit kids with grades.
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Post by Troystet on Jun 7, 2014 13:25:44 GMT -6
I like the coach at Valdosta St. 2013 D11 Nat. Champs and lost 3-2 in the championship game this year. Only negative is he and his wife are VSU alum so they might not leave, but the guy can coach and recruit.
on a different note juco baseball and softball is a different animal than football and basketball. The reason a kid goes juco in football and basketball is almost always grades. Baseball and softball is different in that very little a player does at the high school level is scouted, it is all summer ball and showcases. Some kids don't have the money it takes to play on these high level teams so they play a lower brand of ball that generally gets scouted by juco or D11. I know several kids, boy and girl that went juco in baseball and softball that were honor students. I have also coached at the HS level in football and I can tell you that 100% of the players that we had that went football juco were due to 2.1 GPA's and a 14 ACT and 680 SAT. I have no concerns about a juco baseball or softball coach recruiting good grades. My only concern is that they use the juco system way to much recruiting players ie what Maestri did, where you have your entire team for 1-2 years. You have to have a mix of 60-70% HS and 30-40% juco. Ideal situation is 100% HS but probably not possible at D1
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Post by troy1234 on Jun 8, 2014 6:49:48 GMT -6
Macera has too much baggage. I don't know him personally but other coaches don't speak highly of him on a personal level. On the field he wins though. My question to all, are we looking for a person to make it a career here or use it as a stepping stone to better?
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Post by Hemi Man on Jun 8, 2014 7:42:43 GMT -6
Macera has too much baggage. I don't know him personally but other coaches don't speak highly of him on a personal level. On the field he wins though. My question to all, are we looking for a person to make it a career here or use it as a stepping stone to better? To borrow the quote "just win baby!!" We will have to pay more than what Melanie was making. If we get someone good and we are in a regional or better in two years them we may struggle to keep them. We need the best coach possible. I think I'll have a beer.
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Post by Troystet on Jun 8, 2014 16:13:17 GMT -6
Macera has too much baggage. I don't know him personally but other coaches don't speak highly of him on a personal level. On the field he wins though. My question to all, are we looking for a person to make it a career here or use it as a stepping stone to better? Curious as to what Baggage you are referring? Don't know him personally but he has a pro title and a NCAA title. We have another succesful coach who brought some "baggage" and he has a field named after him. Unless he has a drug problem a drinking problem or cheats on his wife, I'm not sure what baggage would be a problem.
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Post by troy1234 on Jun 8, 2014 19:53:09 GMT -6
Nothing like that. I heard he is hard to talk to.(from a coach). Also heard a coach from a school in Louisiana was on campus. I also hear money is not going to be a problem. I hear a lot but know nothing. Maybe we know something soon.
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Post by Troystet on Jun 8, 2014 20:02:24 GMT -6
Nothing like that. I heard he is hard to talk to.(from a coach). Also heard a coach from a school in Louisiana was on campus. I also hear money is not going to be a problem. I hear a lot but know nothing. Maybe we know something soon. Curious as to the school in Louisiana?? I know a certain lady that is a assistant coach at a D1 school there who was a succesful D11 head coach before moving on up. Not saying it is her but I'm curious. I would like to see a male coach but if this was offered to her she would be an excellent choice.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jun 8, 2014 20:40:04 GMT -6
Nothing like that. I heard he is hard to talk to.(from a coach). Also heard a coach from a school in Louisiana was on campus. I also hear money is not going to be a problem. I hear a lot but know nothing. Maybe we know something soon. Curious as to the school in Louisiana?? I know a certain lady that is a assistant coach at a D1 school there who was a succesful D11 head coach before moving on up. Not saying it is her but I'm curious. I would like to see a male coach but if this was offered to her she would be an excellent choice. We get that your preference is a guy...wait...that didn't sound right. stirthepot
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Post by sballalumni2 on Jun 9, 2014 8:05:39 GMT -6
I really hope they stay away from the Panhandle JUCO coaches. They are not even close to ready to be able to take on ULL, USA, Alabama or Auburn. They need to be assistant coaches at a division I school first.
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Post by troy1234 on Jun 9, 2014 8:34:09 GMT -6
I guess you are talking about Chipola couple because they are the only name that has been brought up. When they played us last year it was 3-0 I think. And their former player was only play to make all conference this year. And we have always had some panhandle players that help us I know they play Univ of Tenn, Florida and FSU during the fall. What I hear is that they are great coaches developing athletes, kids get better each year. To me they are on the outside looking in but I think would do a great job because they can recruit worldwide, they develop kids and it has to be a family atmosphere with them being married. I don't know if their name is big enough to make a splash though.
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Post by Troystet on Jun 9, 2014 8:44:34 GMT -6
I really hope they stay away from the Panhandle JUCO coaches. They are not even close to ready to be able to take on ULL, USA, Alabama or Auburn. They need to be assistant coaches at a division I school first. So a womens basketball coach from the panhandle juco is qualified but a womens softball coach isn't?? A winner is a winner period. Ralph Weeks at Tennessee came from some small school out west and (The HC we don’t speak of) Kelly was a D11 coach.
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Post by sballalumni2 on Jun 9, 2014 9:42:53 GMT -6
I don't know anything about JUCO basketball, but I know the coaches and the program and I don't think they are ready. I want the best of the best for Troy and I believe there are so many other more qualified leaders out there. I was trying to be nice by making a general statement..
Let's recap the prospects: 1. Jimmy Kolatis - Troy alumni, success at USA as a recruiter, hired all the way out to Oregon by one of the nations top coaches and teams, top level asst 2. Windy Thees - AD was the one that hired her at Ole Miss, won at Memphis 3. Kevin Fagan - success at high school, couple of years at JUCO, probably didn't apply 4. Arkansas assistant - Coy Adkins?, coached at UF and summer ball in Florida, top level asst 5. Lousianna assistant - ?? unknown name but possibly a good hire 6. Oklahoma coach - not sure who this is? 7. Thomas Macarena - championships at several levels, couple of violations, head coaching experience 8. JUCO Chipola Coaches - have coached some good athletes, not a consistent contender in a tough conference, limited experience recruiting Division I
Who do you like??? Will it be someone on the list or a complete wild card?
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jun 9, 2014 10:54:49 GMT -6
I don't know anything about JUCO basketball, but I know the coaches and the program and I don't think they are ready. I want the best of the best for Troy and I believe there are so many other more qualified leaders out there. I was trying to be nice by making a general statement.. Let's recap the prospects: 1. Jimmy Kolatis - Troy alumni, success at USA as a recruiter, hired all the way out to Oregon by one of the nations top coaches and teams, top level asst 2. Windy Thees - AD was the one that hired her at Ole Miss, won at Memphis 3. Kevin Fagan - success at high school, couple of years at JUCO, probably didn't apply 4. Arkansas assistant - Coy Adkins?, coached at UF and summer ball in Florida, top level asst 5. Lousianna assistant - ?? unknown name but possibly a good hire 6. Oklahoma coach - not sure who this is? 7. Thomas Macarena - championships at several levels, couple of violations, head coaching experience 8. JUCO Chipola Coaches - have coached some good athletes, not a consistent contender in a tough conference, limited experience recruiting Division I Who do you like??? Will it be someone on the list or a complete wild card? He's got his fingers & toes crossed for #3...
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Post by chipola1 on Jun 9, 2014 11:39:14 GMT -6
Glad to see that we made the message boards. lol Someone is thinking about us. Wanted to go into more detail about us since we made the board. 1. Hendrix 2. In our tough conference we have won 5 of 9, won state 3 times and a national championship. 8 of 9 years someone from our conference has competed at the national tourney so yeah its tough. 3. At Chipola we are not a fully funded. We can only offer 4 full and 20 partials and we are competing against 24 full scholarships in our conference. This is not a complaint because I think it levels the playing field. 4. Recruiting is recruiting. We have 4 players in the sun belt already. At Troy I think we would have a shot at getting better players than Chipola, but we have done pretty good so far. We have taken several un recruited athletes and helped them develop to the next level. Jherica Williams was an un recruited athlete that played for us that went on to play for the Akron Racers professional team. We have had a kid in 2008 that played with the USA junior national team after her sophomore year. We have 3 former players playing for the Dutch national team, 1 player with the Brazilian national team and 1 with the junior national team, 1 with the Mexico national team and 1 that just finished with the Mexico junior national team. So knowing, developing and coaching talent is not going to be a problem anywhere we go. 5. Experience coaching against Alabama, Auburn, ULL or anyone else. We play and compete against them now. Just last year we played FSU, Troy, Ga State, Florida, JU, Kennesaw, and some naia's at UT tourney. Last year we played Univ of Tenn and lost 4-0, with Renfroe throwing all 7 innings. We routinely play and beat mid majors in our fall season. So we know what its going to take to compete at the upper D1 level and I know we will compete. 6. to be continued....
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Post by Troystet on Jun 9, 2014 14:03:02 GMT -6
Coy Adkins would be an excellent choice and he is qualified. Knows the game and a tremendous recruiter. Knows Florida and California well.
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Post by sballalumni2 on Jun 10, 2014 7:20:15 GMT -6
Is Tom Gray the Oklahoma State coach on campus? Or Kelsi Dunne? I saw on another message board that they both were let go from Oklahoma State.
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Post by Hemi Man on Jun 11, 2014 5:47:36 GMT -6
I've heard a couple of other names mentioned besides what has been listed here.
Either way I think we know something pretty soon.
I think I'll have a beer.
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