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Post by ksdtrojan on Nov 14, 2022 12:48:30 GMT -6
Indeed. We don’t quit! We fight! And that is what will take us to new heights. *Once the offense gets the kinks worked out and can start with some momentum on the opening drive no one will stop us.
But the come from behind effort is back at TROY. Never count us out. *50/50, or less that this happens this season. It's late in the game. agreed but there’s still the next game at least 3 more times
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Post by trojantke on Nov 14, 2022 12:56:46 GMT -6
I think we're seeing Gunnar in particular but the whole offense slowly figure some things out. I believe this team has an offensively explosive game in them that we will see this season. An important reminder: While Gunnar has been here for a long time, he received 0 player development for 3 years. In some ways, when HCJS got here it was like he was dealing with Gunnar fresh off the bus from Butler.
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Post by cornhole on Nov 14, 2022 13:23:48 GMT -6
I think we're seeing Gunnar in particular but the whole offense slowly figure some things out. I believe this team has an offensively explosive game in them that we will see this season. An important reminder: While Gunnar has been here for a long time, he received 0 player development for 3 years. In some ways, when HCJS got here it was like he was dealing with Gunnar fresh off the bus from Butler. No comment here on specific personnel but O productivity is worse now after 10 games into the new regime. 3rd down efficiency, TD/Int ratios, dropped passes, communication have all tanked since USM game. I just don't understand last summer's baffling player personnel moves. Season-saving D and kicking game has kept Troy afloat. (as well as inept kicking by opponents, ULaLA and Army. H#ll, we'd be sitting at 6-4 if either could kick a FG).
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Post by scatman on Nov 14, 2022 13:24:59 GMT -6
I think we're seeing Gunnar in particular but the whole offense slowly figure some things out. I believe this team has an offensively explosive game in them that we will see this season. An important reminder: While Gunnar has been here for a long time, he received 0 player development for 3 years. In some ways, when HCJS got here it was like he was dealing with Gunnar fresh off the bus from Butler. In all sets we see drives come together the past month, it’s being ran out of offensive sets that are familiar to these guys. Our run game didn’t open up until we tested Army through the air on sets Gunnar was running in previous years. I’m not opposed to Craddocks offense, because I think it would be great for some of our guys to play in a system that nfl teams like. But I also think we should focus on that during the off-season, run what our guys know RIGHT NOW, and go out and drop 42 points on ULM.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Nov 14, 2022 13:51:41 GMT -6
I think we're seeing Gunnar in particular but the whole offense slowly figure some things out. I believe this team has an offensively explosive game in them that we will see this season. An important reminder: While Gunnar has been here for a long time, he received 0 player development for 3 years. In some ways, when HCJS got here it was like he was dealing with Gunnar fresh off the bus from Butler. No comment here on specific personnel but O productivity is worse now after 10 games into the new regime. 3rd down efficiency, TD/Int ratios, dropped passes, communication have all tanked since USM game. I just don't understand last summer's baffling player personnel moves. Season-saving D and kicking game has kept Troy afloat. (as well as inept kicking by opponents, ULaLA and Army. H#ll, we'd be sitting at 6-4 if either could kick a FG). What baffling player personnel moves?
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Post by ksdtrojan on Nov 14, 2022 14:08:24 GMT -6
I think we're seeing Gunnar in particular but the whole offense slowly figure some things out. I believe this team has an offensively explosive game in them that we will see this season. An important reminder: While Gunnar has been here for a long time, he received 0 player development for 3 years. In some ways, when HCJS got here it was like he was dealing with Gunnar fresh off the bus from Butler. No comment here on specific personnel but O productivity is worse now after 10 games into the new regime. 3rd down efficiency, TD/Int ratios, dropped passes, communication have all tanked since USM game. I just don't understand last summer's baffling player personnel moves. Season-saving D and kicking game has kept Troy afloat. (as well as inept kicking by opponents, ULaLA and Army. H#ll, we'd be sitting at 6-4 if either could kick a FG). Communication piece is a big deal. I personally think this is potentially the biggest issue. I know I’ve beaten this dead horse all year. Play fake to no one… 1. Missed assignment by the RB 2. Missed assignment footwork QB 3. Missed or confusing communication on the play call into the huddle/no huddle I did see one successful play fake to an actual running back and that pass complete to Stoudamire for a great pass and gain. How much of the issues are the complicated system and thusly complicated communication? Perhaps even in the run game assignments. Offense looks out of sync and confused most every play.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 14, 2022 14:24:14 GMT -6
At 8-2, the rest is how they say: “All Gravy”
Win or lose, call this or that play etc. I am now going to “Sit back and relax.”
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Post by ksdtrojan on Nov 14, 2022 15:02:37 GMT -6
I like to talk football. Especially offensive football scheme. So I’m sitting back and relaxing but I’m also very interested to see what adjustments we continue to make.
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 14, 2022 15:22:04 GMT -6
I've always said "ULM gives us fits" but realize nobody at ULM has "given us fits" when we were actually supposed to win. Bowden is certainly a good coach, he's got a good staff, including 3 former Troy assistants. One of those being Coach Carr who will know a little about our personnel. I've had this one circled for months, BUT if you can't buy into our staff at this point, you may never buy-in. Until we are down 45-0 at half, I have no doubt we can come back due to the halftime adjustments this staff makes and the fact the team responds to it. This game is still circled but, but I'm confident it helps propel us to a title game! Why not build around NOT having to come back and make massive halftime adjustments to rally and win. Something is broken, regardless of your personal relationship with some on this staff, but if want to be major G5 we can’t protect our buddies, but hold people responsible for them failing at what they get paid to do. I truly hope HCJS has the stones to make the tough calls and make changes sooner rather than later.
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 14, 2022 15:25:10 GMT -6
I like to talk football. Especially offensive football scheme. So I’m sitting back and relaxing but I’m also very interested to see what adjustments we continue to make. Amen. It’s always interesting those you say you shouldn’t post on a message board just because your opinion is different than theirs.
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Post by cornhole on Nov 14, 2022 15:31:38 GMT -6
No comment here on specific personnel but O productivity is worse now after 10 games into the new regime. 3rd down efficiency, TD/Int ratios, dropped passes, communication have all tanked since USM game. I just don't understand last summer's baffling player personnel moves. Season-saving D and kicking game has kept Troy afloat. (as well as inept kicking by opponents, ULaLA and Army. H#ll, we'd be sitting at 6-4 if either could kick a FG). What baffling player personnel moves? Troy brings in two QB's, one (Costelli) hasn't played in 3+ years, the other (Dagger) has just one year and holds NCAA records. Only one has contributed at all?? And only because of an injury to the #1 QB.?
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 14, 2022 15:37:11 GMT -6
What baffling player personnel moves? Troy brings in two QB's, one (Costelli) hasn't played in 3+ years, the other (Dagger) has just one year and holds NCAA records. Only one has contributed at all?? And only because of an injury to the #1 QB.? Costelli has plenty upside, future possibility. Although should be playing now, offensive production is putrid in its current form. Doege was a stop gap, semi-proven player allowing for emergency backup at worse or take the reins one hit wonder at best. A kinda see the understanding of the moves.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 14, 2022 16:48:00 GMT -6
I like to talk football. Especially offensive football scheme. So I’m sitting back and relaxing but I’m also very interested to see what adjustments we continue to make. Yeah man. I’m with you. I just can’t complain anymore this season. This team has met my expectations for a Sumrall team in year 4. 8-2, no matter how ugly, lucky, or even frustrating is outstandingly good. I love this team and Sumrall is off to a great start.
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Post by cornhole on Nov 14, 2022 17:49:10 GMT -6
I like to talk football. Especially offensive football scheme. So I’m sitting back and relaxing but I’m also very interested to see what adjustments we continue to make. Yeah man. I’m with you. I just can’t complain anymore this season. This team has met my expectations for a Sumrall team in year 4. 8-2, no matter how ugly, lucky, or even frustrating is outstandingly good. I love this team and Sumrall is off to a great start. So, you and ksd are content to take the the pedal off the metal this season?? We're so close, sans a consistent O. And you assume that next year will take care of itself with HCJS?? Just too many moving parts to assume anything for next year. Yeah, sit back and relax. We could lose the next two and then what?
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Post by jonesoxygen on Nov 14, 2022 18:35:57 GMT -6
Y’all are right again. Fire them all. We have no business being 8-2, I’m pretty sure they will even look at the record when the season is over and not give us actual credit for some of the W’s because the offense was not good enough for the message board.
The fact that some of you are freaking out over wins, continues to baffle me. If you want to complain, go back to the App state and Ole Miss game and bring up every negative point you can find because those games were losses. It seems y’all equate a close win to a loss for some stupid reason.
Enjoy the freaking moment and get off your all knowing high horses. Surely y’all don’t have time to critique this staff since you’re all smart enough to be NFL or power 5 coaches. Get back to grading film or whatever it is that you do.
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Post by cornhole on Nov 14, 2022 18:44:48 GMT -6
I like to talk football. Especially offensive football scheme. So I’m sitting back and relaxing but I’m also very interested to see what adjustments we continue to make. Yeah man. I’m with you. I just can’t complain anymore this season. This team has met my expectations for a Sumrall team in year 4. 8-2, no matter how ugly, lucky, or even frustrating is outstandingly good. I love this team and Sumrall is off to a great start. Yeah and HCJS ain't sitting back and relaxing with 2, 3 or 4 games to go.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 14, 2022 18:58:11 GMT -6
Yeah man. I’m with you. I just can’t complain anymore this season. This team has met my expectations for a Sumrall team in year 4. 8-2, no matter how ugly, lucky, or even frustrating is outstandingly good. I love this team and Sumrall is off to a great start. Yeah and HCJS ain't sitting back and relaxing with 2, 3 or 4 games to go. I’m sure Sumrall and the entire team will continue to do their best. I’m just saying that 8-2 is fantastic enough for me to enjoy the remainder of the season without being upset about anything. At this point for me, the season is already a success, no matter what happens. I’m genuinely thrilled. I’ve had a great season on campus with friends and family. Every drive home has been easy because I’m happy about winning.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 14, 2022 18:59:44 GMT -6
Yeah man. I’m with you. I just can’t complain anymore this season. This team has met my expectations for a Sumrall team in year 4. 8-2, no matter how ugly, lucky, or even frustrating is outstandingly good. I love this team and Sumrall is off to a great start. So, you and ksd are content to take the the pedal off the metal this season?? We're so close, sans a consistent O. And you assume that next year will take care of itself with HCJS?? Just too many moving parts to assume anything for next year. Yeah, sit back and relax. We could lose the next two and then what? I’m not on the team. I’m in the stands eating snacks and cheering. I can sit back and relax. The team will fight on.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Nov 14, 2022 19:13:18 GMT -6
In August, I was hoping for a 12 win regular season, felt that 10 wins was a more realistic stretch goal, and that 8 wins would be a good season. We have the 8 wins, with a very realistic shot at getting to the 10 win mark. Have we consistently played as good as we could have? No, and I'm not the only one who feels that way. HCJS and staff feel that way too. Can we continue to win games in which we only score 10 points? Probably not. Am I happy to see that, in spite of not playing our best, we have won 8 games? Absolutely. I think that speaks volumes for our players and coaching staff.
As I look back on the previous 3 seasons, perhaps the most frequently voiced complaint was that the staff was unable, or willing, to make halftime adjustments and change the direction of games. Now, the most frequent complaint seems to be that we need to make those adjustments, even though as we do so, we continue to win. Do I think we could start games better? Sure, but I'm thrilled that when we don't, the coaches and players make the adjustments needed to succeed.
I wish we could take the field and, like this year's University of Georgia team, completely dominate every opponent from opening kick to final horn, winning all phases of the game any way it's broken down. Can we get there? Possibly. Can we do so with the staff we currently have? Maybe, maybe not. If not, should changes be made? Yep, without a doubt. I will not, however, criticize the current staff for doing what we criticized the previous staff for NOT doing.
HAVOC!
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 14, 2022 19:42:04 GMT -6
Just my .02 worth. Down 9 in the third quarter, under Jon, I’m very confident we will win.
Up 10 under the last guy in the 3rd quarter, I’m as nervous as long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
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Post by cornhole on Nov 14, 2022 19:45:32 GMT -6
So, you and ksd are content to take the the pedal off the metal this season?? We're so close, sans a consistent O. And you assume that next year will take care of itself with HCJS?? Just too many moving parts to assume anything for next year. Yeah, sit back and relax. We could lose the next two and then what? I’m not on the team. I’m in the stands eating snacks and cheering. I can sit back and relax. The team will fight on. yeah. Keep relaxing, we won't have this D to count on next year, or perhaps for a decade. HCJS will fight on but needs an O NOW to complete a truly memorable, if not epic season.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 14, 2022 19:48:15 GMT -6
I’m not on the team. I’m in the stands eating snacks and cheering. I can sit back and relax. The team will fight on. yeah. Keep relaxing, we won't have this D to count on next year, or perhaps for a decade. HCJS will fight on but needs an O NOW to complete a truly memorable, if not epic season. This is a D that will be difficult to replicate for future teams. Maybe not impossible but certainly difficult to match!!
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Post by ksdtrojan on Nov 14, 2022 19:52:59 GMT -6
Yeah man. I’m with you. I just can’t complain anymore this season. This team has met my expectations for a Sumrall team in year 4. 8-2, no matter how ugly, lucky, or even frustrating is outstandingly good. I love this team and Sumrall is off to a great start. So, you and ksd are content to take the the pedal off the metal this season?? We're so close, sans a consistent O. And you assume that next year will take care of itself with HCJS?? Just too many moving parts to assume anything for next year. Yeah, sit back and relax. We could lose the next two and then what? woah corn! not me. Full speed ahead. Get the offense fixed.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Nov 14, 2022 20:07:39 GMT -6
Why is it a bad thing to discuss areas we can improve? I’m not calling for anyone to be fired. I really don’t understand how questioning certain areas of our performance based on our understanding of the game is a bad thing. No one on here thinks they’re a college coach. I personally like the shift to pro spread as I’ve said multiple times.
Can someone explain why it isn’t ok to discuss strategy and what we see in a game? I love the game of football. As I said earlier especially offensive schemes. That’s part of why I watch football, all football and especially college football.
If we can’t be free to discuss this part of football then maybe this board isn’t for me anymore.
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Post by cornhole on Nov 14, 2022 20:27:01 GMT -6
Why is it a bad thing to discuss areas we can improve? I’m not calling for anyone to be fired. I really don’t understand how questioning certain areas of our performance based on our understanding of the game is a bad thing. No one on here thinks they’re a college coach. I personally like the shift to pro spread as I’ve said multiple times. Can someone explain why it isn’t ok to discuss strategy and what we see in a game? I love the game of football. As I said earlier especially offensive schemes. That’s part of why I watch football, all football and especially college football. If we can’t be free to discuss this part of football then maybe this board isn’t for me anymore. The next month presents an epic opportunity for Troy University Football to make an historic statement. We are at the cusp, fish now or cut bait. Pull out the stops, go for it! "JUST" 8-4 or more?? Cornhole never calls for firing during heat of the season. We won't have this D to Fall back on next year.
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