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Post by trojan2003 on Oct 13, 2022 11:04:41 GMT -6
Hartwell is a final candidate for the Auburn AD job.
Maybe they will hire Neal Brown as their new HC then (probably not)... but most WVU fans want him gone.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 13, 2022 11:14:30 GMT -6
Hartwell is a final candidate for the Auburn AD job. Maybe they will hire Neal Brown as their new HC then (probably not)... but most WVU fans want him gone. John Hartwell will do a fine job there. First priority is to fire the Board??
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Post by Troy_Fan_15 on Oct 13, 2022 11:54:16 GMT -6
Why did he leave Troy in the first place?
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Post by foulpolephenom on Oct 13, 2022 12:05:31 GMT -6
Why did he leave Troy in the first place? $$
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Post by jonesoxygen on Oct 13, 2022 12:09:37 GMT -6
Hartwell will do great at AU because he will stand up to the powers that be. He left Troy for a better opportunity and took advantage of it, mens hoops and football have been in the top 25 while he was there.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Oct 13, 2022 15:17:01 GMT -6
Hartwell is known as a hatchet man.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 13, 2022 15:35:46 GMT -6
Hartwell is known as a hatchet man. Seems to work for him. And the programs he administers.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Oct 13, 2022 15:42:48 GMT -6
Hartwell is known as a hatchet man. Seems to work for him. And the programs he administers. To paraphrase someone whose family was being hatcheted… Bless his heart.
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Post by Possum on Oct 13, 2022 15:54:36 GMT -6
Auburn would be a career killer. The boosters have that program by the gonads and will not let Hartwell do anything without their say so.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Oct 13, 2022 16:21:28 GMT -6
Auburn would be a career killer. The boosters have that program by the gonads and will not let Hartwell do anything without their say so. You may be correct, but its his decision.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Oct 13, 2022 17:54:25 GMT -6
If Hartwell had stayed sir scratch a lot would not have even sniffed the Troy city limit sign.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 13, 2022 21:00:52 GMT -6
Auburn would be a career killer. The boosters have that program by the gonads and will not let Hartwell do anything without their say so. Nah, not Hartwell. John knows better. He will lay down the rules before ever accepting that job. THey are where thay are due to the 'nad holders.
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Post by troyalumni on Oct 13, 2022 21:33:48 GMT -6
Why did he leave Troy in the first place? $$ I’ve always wondered: most G5 coaches are making $1 million give or take, bonuses, etc. lets use $1,000,000 as an example - that’s over $83,000 a month!! What more do you need? How greedy can you get? How the hell do you spend that kind of money? To my point, if your in a good spot and winning. Community and fan base love you as a coach, what more could you ask for if your making that kind of money and your winning. You and your family aren’t feeling any pressure but sitting as Gods making $83k a month +. Why risk all that? For more money that you can’t spend and for pure greed. Just saying. Blows my mind.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Oct 13, 2022 22:01:44 GMT -6
I’ve always wondered: most G5 coaches are making $1 million give or take, bonuses, etc. lets use $1,000,000 as an example - that’s over $83,000 a month!! What more do you need? How greedy can you get? How the hell do you spend that kind of money? To my point, if your in a good spot and winning. Community and fan base love you as a coach, what more could you ask for if your making that kind of money and your winning. You and your family aren’t feeling any pressure but sitting as Gods making $83k a month +. Why risk all that? For more money that you can’t spend and for pure greed. Just saying. Blows my mind. I've always pondered the same thing. For some coaches, they have an ultimate goal to win a national championship, and taking over a P5 program gives you a higher chance of accomplishing that dream. Some dream of being the head coach at their alma mater, which is always understandable. But I don't understand coaches like Scott Satterfield who was at App State... he was an App State alumni, was from the area, and was one of their most successful coaches ever. He had ZERO pressure and was making $900K. Had great facilities. Had great fans. Had a free car purchased by App State. Had a free membership with the Hounds Ear Golf Club. And he lived in the picturesque mountains of North Carolina...... Then he's suddenly offered $3 million to be head coach at Louisville... which isn't even that nice of a place to live... it was a rebuild job with a bad culture... where he has no ties... and now he's close to being fired after 3 years.
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Post by Hemi Man on Oct 14, 2022 5:29:49 GMT -6
I’ve always wondered: most G5 coaches are making $1 million give or take, bonuses, etc. lets use $1,000,000 as an example - that’s over $83,000 a month!! What more do you need? How greedy can you get? How the hell do you spend that kind of money? To my point, if your in a good spot and winning. Community and fan base love you as a coach, what more could you ask for if your making that kind of money and your winning. You and your family aren’t feeling any pressure but sitting as Gods making $83k a month +. Why risk all that? For more money that you can’t spend and for pure greed. Just saying. Blows my mind. I think of it this way. That is great money. What if he’s fired 5 years from now snd he turned down 5 million a year 3 years ago. That’s a bad business decision. This is strictly business.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Oct 14, 2022 6:02:30 GMT -6
They aren't just thinking about their own glory or legacy. They're also thinking about their wives, kids, and grandkids, possibly their parents. That's another reason why they get attracted by the big $$$.
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 14, 2022 8:02:31 GMT -6
I’ve always wondered: most G5 coaches are making $1 million give or take, bonuses, etc. lets use $1,000,000 as an example - that’s over $83,000 a month!! What more do you need? How greedy can you get? How the hell do you spend that kind of money? To my point, if your in a good spot and winning. Community and fan base love you as a coach, what more could you ask for if your making that kind of money and your winning. You and your family aren’t feeling any pressure but sitting as Gods making $83k a month +. Why risk all that? For more money that you can’t spend and for pure greed. Just saying. Blows my mind. That poor people thinking. “Their is always another island to buy” Had a client tell me one time, “it doesn’t matter if you literally give away every dollar you make or have, billionaires have the mindset of winning, creating, obtaining more and more. It’s DNA.” Coaches are the same. They want to win at the highest level. It’s in their DNA. Frankly, I don’t want a coach that wants to “settle” for Troy. I love Troy with everything but I know who we are. I would guarantee Jon Sumrall wants to move up and coach an SEC school (Kentucky) and compete for SEC and national titles. Money is good but it’s not all about that.
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Post by chasin170 on Oct 14, 2022 8:15:21 GMT -6
Satterfield would be up for the "Worst Dad and Husband of the Year Award" turning down L'ville.AND......would get a phone call blast from his 8th grade math teacher.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 14, 2022 9:01:36 GMT -6
That poor people thinking. “Their is always another island to buy” Had a client tell me one time, “it doesn’t matter if you literally give away every dollar you make or have, billionaires have the mindset of winning, creating, obtaining more and more. It’s DNA.” Coaches are the same. They want to win at the highest level. It’s in their DNA. Frankly, I don’t want a coach that wants to “settle” for Troy. I love Troy with everything but I know who we are. I would guarantee Jon Sumrall what’s to move up and coach an SEC school (Kentucky) and compete for SEC and national titles. Money is good but it’s not all about that. This ^^ nails it. It's in folks' DNA. Coaches, entrepreneurs, Acheivers, go getters, premier athletes, you name it. Yeah, folks who "settle" for status quo ultimately get left behind the pack.
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Post by trojanfan1988 on Oct 14, 2022 13:24:09 GMT -6
I was thinking the same thing; but, on a different level. Why not build a Powerhouse here at Troy. I look at what Coach Bobby Bowden done at Florida State. Prior to CBB arrival, Florida State was similar to what we have here at Troy.
I attended Troy in 1984 through 1988, the school, atmosphere, and facilities are far better and with the right Coach, he can turn Troy into a Powerhouse. As for completing for a National Championship, that's on the table with the 12 team playoff. Furthermore, its a great recruiting tool for athletes, you can tell them, you can come to Troy, play for a Conference Championship and also get the opportunity to play for a National Championship and have less wear and tear on your body.
If CJS stays, I truly believe Troy will be the next Powerhouse. The Sunbelt Conference is getting stronger and stronger and each of you can agree, "We expect to WIN every game again. "
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Post by jonesoxygen on Oct 14, 2022 13:40:55 GMT -6
Boise did it... why not Troy? Their population is only 200,000 more than ours
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Post by buzzlightyear on Oct 14, 2022 13:49:25 GMT -6
Boise did it... why not Troy? Their population is only 200,000 more than ours As Cornhole has eluded to in the past several of us have no direct linkage to Troy. So, for the size of town and with two better known brands in the state, I think Troy has done quite well. The overall consistency has been pretty good over the past 20 years.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Oct 14, 2022 15:33:18 GMT -6
Troy is on the rise. Kimber is coming to Troy. I predict it will be around Dothan population in 20 years.
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 14, 2022 16:01:52 GMT -6
Troy is on the rise. Kimber is coming to Troy. I predict it will be around Dothan population in 20 years. Current estimates (rounded): Dothan 70,000, Troy 18,000 For Troy to get 70,000 it would have to average 2,600 new arrivals a year for that 20 years. Not happening. Maybe 25,000 to 30,000. To discuss Wiregrass population changes, Dothan and it’s surrounding communities will grow. With bigger yet, the surrounding areas of Montgomery will have accelerated growth. There simply are not jobs in mass in Troy to grow in those numbers.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 14, 2022 16:02:31 GMT -6
Boise did it... why not Troy? Their population is only 200,000 more than ours As Cornhole has eluded to in the past several of us have no direct linkage to Troy. So, for the size of town and with two better known brands in the state, I think Troy has done quite well. The overall consistency has been pretty good over the past 20 years. WE get to 30,000 butts-in-seats one fan at a time.
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