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Post by trojan2003 on Dec 21, 2021 5:40:47 GMT -6
Who would you have hired? A good proven OC with a track record of success. Troy could never afford a proven OC like this. It’s basically OC/HC or DC/HC package. We went with the latter choice, so now we will have to experiment on offense. That’s why I normally prefer the OC/HC deal, it’s more suitable for G5 schools.
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Post by Possum on Dec 21, 2021 7:40:08 GMT -6
I think this will be a better hire than some believe. Sounds like Craddock will bring in a App State-type of offense, except with a fast-paced style and misdirection schemes... exactly what Sumrall wanted. Nah. Going Possum style on this one. He not a good OC. Maybe by magic he becomes good. We’ll see. But was the possum wrong?
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 21, 2021 9:49:29 GMT -6
I think this will be a better hire than some believe. Sounds like Craddock will bring in a App State-type of offense, except with a fast-paced style and misdirection schemes... exactly what Sumrall wanted. Nah. Going Possum style on this one. He not a good OC. Maybe by magic he becomes good. We’ll see. So you’re sold on him not being a good OC. Care to put your money where your mouth is on the subject?
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 21, 2021 11:14:41 GMT -6
Nah. Going Possum style on this one. He not a good OC. Maybe by magic he becomes good. We’ll see. So you’re sold on him not being a good OC. Care to put your money where your mouth is on the subject? Sure. Name it. Love to bet. If a lose, I still win.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 21, 2021 11:45:56 GMT -6
We are still not seeing the elephant in the room. We need an athletic qb. Until we get that we are going to have trouble running Spread and it isn't going to matter who the OC is. This isn't just me saying this. On AD BJ zoom call with former players this was stated over and over and by several HOF players.
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 21, 2021 12:07:25 GMT -6
So you’re sold on him not being a good OC. Care to put your money where your mouth is on the subject? Sure. Name it. Love to bet. If a lose, I still win. I like it. $100 wager. I say Troy improves their scoring offense by 7 points next season. If I win you donate $100 to Troy Athletics in my name. If you win I will donate $100 in your name.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 21, 2021 12:15:26 GMT -6
Sure. Name it. Love to bet. If a lose, I still win. I like it. $100 wager. I say Troy improves their scoring offense by 7 points next season. If I win you donate $100 to Troy Athletics in my name. If you win I will donate $100 in your name. Saint don’t fall for it!!!! Don’t ….saying we are going to increase our scoring when we had a chimp with one glass eye who had brain damage calling plays last year outs you at a huge disadvantage. See if he will go for 10.5 per game. After all my 5 y/0 great nephew who has no idea about football except he likes helmets could get 7 more just because he has two eyes and can draw in the dirt.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 21, 2021 12:19:25 GMT -6
We are still not seeing the elephant in the room. We need an athletic qb. Until we get that we are going to have trouble running Spread and it isn't going to matter who the OC is. This isn't just me saying this. On AD BJ zoom call with former players this was stated over and over and by several HOF players. Now I don’t want to be negative about anyone’s skills but just for giggles what if we had Grayson McCall or Malik Willis at QB this past year. Our previous head would probably not been fired.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 21, 2021 13:12:04 GMT -6
Sure. Name it. Love to bet. If a lose, I still win. I like it. $100 wager. I say Troy improves their scoring offense by 7 points next season. If I win you donate $100 to Troy Athletics in my name. If you win I will donate $100 in your name. First, I was thinking donating to a charity. Troy already gets a lot of my money. Second, you mean 7 points per game ? Using PPG (Points per game) ?
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 21, 2021 13:36:52 GMT -6
I like it. $100 wager. I say Troy improves their scoring offense by 7 points next season. If I win you donate $100 to Troy Athletics in my name. If you win I will donate $100 in your name. First, I was thinking donating to a charity. Troy already gets a lot of my money. Second, you mean 7 points per game ? Using PPG (Points per game) ? Yes. Points per game. 7 pointes would be around a 30% increase. I’m down for a charity.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 21, 2021 13:48:13 GMT -6
First, I was thinking donating to a charity. Troy already gets a lot of my money. Second, you mean 7 points per game ? Using PPG (Points per game) ? Yes. Points per game. 7 pointes would be around a 30% increase. I’m down for a charity. ( STAR WARS) "It's a trap! It's a trap!"
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 21, 2021 16:17:38 GMT -6
First, I was thinking donating to a charity. Troy already gets a lot of my money. Second, you mean 7 points per game ? Using PPG (Points per game) ? Yes. Points per game. 7 pointes would be around a 30% increase. Iâm down for a charity. 7 points, Thatâs too easy. We are bouncing off the bottom. If he is such the home run OC hire that is being claimed, finishing in the top 25 of PPG. With Troyâs talent that should not be a problem. You have stated multiple times that Troy has massive talent, there was no reason why (The HC we don’t speak of) Lindsay should not win and score a lot of points. I agreed.
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 21, 2021 16:22:43 GMT -6
Yes. Points per game. 7 pointes would be around a 30% increase. Iâm down for a charity. 7 points, Thatâs too easy. We are bouncing off the bottom. If he is such the home run OC hire that is being claimed, finishing in the top 25 of PPG. With Troyâs talent that should not be a problem. You have stated multiple times that Troy has massive talent, there was no reason why (The HC we don’t speak of) Lindsay should not win and score a lot of points. I agreed. To go from 103rd in scoring offense to 25th or better might be a little unrealistic
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 21, 2021 16:28:41 GMT -6
10.5 going once, going twice.........
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 21, 2021 21:06:57 GMT -6
7 points, Thatâs too easy. We are bouncing off the bottom. If he is such the home run OC hire that is being claimed, finishing in the top 25 of PPG. With Troyâs talent that should not be a problem. You have stated multiple times that Troy has massive talent, there was no reason why (The HC we don’t speak of) Lindsay should not win and score a lot of points. I agreed. To go from 103rd in scoring offense to 25th or better might be a little unrealistic Technically we tied for 102nd place. But hey, if he a great hire we should be in the top tier of FBS. Coastal Carolina is 6th. App State is 23rd. Why not Troy ?, with our home run OC hire.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Dec 22, 2021 7:19:20 GMT -6
The OLC hire will be critical along w RBC.
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Post by skeeter on Dec 22, 2021 9:08:39 GMT -6
I just want to win…… by 1 or by 100 points. If we win we go to Bowl games and SB Championship to compete for a title. I will support both the DC and the OC HCJS brings in, even if it’s my grandmother, as long as we can win!!! HCJS; just playing about my grandmother, due to play calling might be a little difficult for her these days.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Dec 22, 2021 9:18:14 GMT -6
7 points more per game and Troy could have gone 8-4 this season
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Post by trojantke on Dec 22, 2021 14:16:36 GMT -6
To go from 103rd in scoring offense to 25th or better might be a little unrealistic Technically we tied for 102nd place. But hey, if he a great hire we should be in the top tier of FBS. Coastal Carolina is 6th. App State is 23rd. Why not Troy ?, with our home run OC hire. ^ a lesson on how to say you're scared to bet without saying you're scared to bet
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 22, 2021 14:28:27 GMT -6
Technically we tied for 102nd place. But hey, if he a great hire we should be in the top tier of FBS. Coastal Carolina is 6th. App State is 23rd. Why not Troy ?, with our home run OC hire. ^ a lesson on how to say you're scared to bet without saying you're scared to bet Got all you want. Top 25, what your number ? Don’t be scared now.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 22, 2021 14:54:04 GMT -6
8 pts more per game
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 22, 2021 20:08:27 GMT -6
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 23, 2021 8:25:09 GMT -6
Sold! I will give you 8 points PPG improvement. We meet the Sunday after the last game at Sisters and pay up. My charity is Mission 22.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 23, 2021 10:29:51 GMT -6
I hope Saint takes the bet. If that happens maybe my next career will be arbitration? However, if this does happen with that improvement our D will allow less pts a game as well. The differential could be quite astounding. Still not sure if we are in the East or will be in the West next year. I just think there is great promise for a record bounce with a new coach. Things be lookin good for the Trojans. Do I think the conference as a whole is better? Yes. Do I think the East is going to be the dominant side next year? Yes. With that said I could imagine a 9-10 win mark if we go West. (Shoot maybe even better) If in the East that would be tougher.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 23, 2021 10:37:16 GMT -6
oh by the way......................... For those who remember going to bowls in the past. Dust off your suitcase we will be going back!!!!!
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