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Post by Troystet on Dec 1, 2021 10:10:13 GMT -6
Nov 30, 2014 Troy announced Neal Brown as HC. No early signing period then. That staff had to bust their humps to get a signing class by Feb. We are expecting this new coach to sign a class on Dec 15. Let's just keep dragging our feet looking for who will do the job the cheapest. I have went from excited to discouraged in a matter of days. Hope I am wrong for the sake of the program but the rumor mill if true is not looking good.
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Post by gator8 on Dec 1, 2021 10:16:13 GMT -6
I agree that a hire needs to be IMMINENT in order to save this recruiting class. That said, Brent Jones hired Skyler Meade for baseball, and I get the feeling Troy is about to run the Sun Belt — which, in all fairness to football, is a baseball league. I think we'll be fine. I don't trust any of the rumors.
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Post by crawlspace13 on Dec 1, 2021 12:10:19 GMT -6
Nov 30, 2014 Troy announced Neal Brown as HC. No early signing period then. That staff had to bust their humps to get a signing class by Feb. We are expecting this new coach to sign a class on Dec 15. Let's just keep dragging our feet looking for who will do the job the cheapest. I have went from excited to discouraged in a matter of days. Hope I am wrong for the sake of the program but the rumor mill if true is not looking good. I'm actually not expecting a new coach to do much by Dec 15. I mean, I'm sure the new coach can pull some recruits and transfers together but I really don't have any expectations of great recruiting right this second now or we'll die. We'll have a decent team next year regardless and it's no secret this is likely a multi year rebuild.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 1, 2021 12:23:42 GMT -6
I just looked up Charles Kelly and I am sorry but he is bald and with a head set on looks enough like Dip to just plain turn me off to him as a coach. NOTHING against being bald! Just too reminding of a former coach. Just to soon. Typically after your divorce you would not run out a marry someone who looks like your wife or her sister. Sorry just say no to Charles (Auburn) left over bald guy. Nope can no do.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 1, 2021 13:19:22 GMT -6
Nov 30, 2014 Troy announced Neal Brown as HC. No early signing period then. That staff had to bust their humps to get a signing class by Feb. We are expecting this new coach to sign a class on Dec 15. Let's just keep dragging our feet looking for who will do the job the cheapest. I have went from excited to discouraged in a matter of days. Hope I am wrong for the sake of the program but the rumor mill if true is not looking good. I'm actually not expecting a new coach to do much by Dec 15. I mean, I'm sure the new coach can pull some recruits and transfers together but I really don't have any expectations of great recruiting right this second now or we'll die. We'll have a decent team next year regardless and it's no secret this is likely a multi year rebuild. Multi year ? Nope Everyone has stated, everyone, that Troy should have been winning with all the talent that is at Troy. No excuses. I agree with that, (The HC we don’t speak of) could not use lack of talent as an excuse because this program has it. Canât say old coach can use that as an excuse but let new coach use as one. Yes, our culture needs rebuilding, but that can be done quickly. Very quickly. Neal Brown rebuilt the culture extremely quickly, he just didnât have a full cupboard of talent when he took over.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 1, 2021 13:43:12 GMT -6
I see on footballscoop, it took New Hampshire 4 hours to get their next guy. We hire coaches like south gumpers spell. Slow and full of mistakes.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 1, 2021 14:01:47 GMT -6
I see on footballscoop, it took New Hampshire 4 hours to get their next guy. We hire coaches like south gumpers spell. Slow and full of mistakes. It is starting to get concerning now. Something just isn't right
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Post by biggtroy on Dec 1, 2021 14:46:45 GMT -6
Interesting that after all that noise on Monday night it has been eerily quiet here in Troy, AL the past couple days. Hope they are just crossing the Ts and dotting the Is on the deal and we should know soon.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 1, 2021 14:49:27 GMT -6
Interesting that after all that noise on Monday night it has been eerily quiet here in Troy, AL the past couple days. Hope they are just crossing the Ts and dotting the Is on the deal and we should know soon. If waters are a little more rough than you expect then it takes a little while longer to move to where you want to be if your boat is not a real big one.
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Post by Mark Gainey on Dec 1, 2021 16:50:51 GMT -6
My advice is we all take a deep breath and relax. The truth is that when we terminated (The HC we don’t speak of) with one week left in the season and only 4 weeks until early signing period, this recruiting class was mostly lost. Hiring a coach a week ago vs a week from now isn't going to make a huge difference. We only have 10 seniors. Whoever we hire will need some time to rebuild. This is a multi-year rebuild because culture takes a long time to change. So, let's not rush it. Let them have time to get it right. I'm choosing to relax and trust our leadership.
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Dec 1, 2021 16:55:17 GMT -6
I see on footballscoop, it took New Hampshire 4 hours to get their next guy. We hire coaches like south gumpers spell. Slow and full of mistakes. It is starting to get concerning now. Something just isn't right If Troy had hired someone in 4 hours, many of you would be complaining that Brent didn't really do a full national search like he said he would. Just like in politics, many of you have already made your minds up about the Troy administration, and it really doesn't matter how fast or slow the hiring process takes.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 1, 2021 17:28:13 GMT -6
My advice is we all take a deep breath and relax. The truth is that when we terminated (The HC we don’t speak of) with one week left in the season and only 4 weeks until early signing period, this recruiting class was mostly lost. Hiring a coach a week ago vs a week from now isn't going to make a huge difference. We only have 10 seniors. Whoever we hire will need some time to rebuild. This is a multi-year rebuild because culture takes a long time to change. So, let's not rush it. Let them have time to get it right. I'm choosing to relax and trust our leadership. Nope. Culture can be rebuilt quickly! We have an example in our our program with Neal Brown. We have the talent now. (The HC we don’t speak of) couldnât use that as an excuse. We wouldnât allow it. We saw the talent in the program. This multi-year rebuild crap some of yâall are already toting around is negative juice not based on facts.
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Post by psitech on Dec 1, 2021 17:35:13 GMT -6
Like waiting to ask someone to go to the dance.... wait long enough and the choices are limited.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 1, 2021 17:37:39 GMT -6
Like waiting to ask someone to go to the dance.... wait long enough and the choices are limited. Kinda like 2am at the bar when the lights come on. Leftovers can be fun but usually are messy.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 1, 2021 17:38:19 GMT -6
I'm actually not expecting a new coach to do much by Dec 15. I mean, I'm sure the new coach can pull some recruits and transfers together but I really don't have any expectations of great recruiting right this second now or we'll die. We'll have a decent team next year regardless and it's no secret this is likely a multi year rebuild. Multi year ? Nope Everyone has stated, everyone, that Troy should have been winning with all the talent that is at Troy. No excuses. I agree with that, (The HC we don’t speak of) could not use lack of talent as an excuse because this program has it. Canât say old coach can use that as an excuse but let new coach use as one. Yes, our culture needs rebuilding, but that can be done quickly. Very quickly. Neal Brown rebuilt the culture extremely quickly, he just didnât have a full cupboard of talent when he took over. 2 years. Lots to fix here.
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Post by trojan2003 on Dec 1, 2021 17:38:56 GMT -6
I agree that a hire needs to be IMMINENT in order to save this recruiting class. That said, Brent Jones hired Skyler Meade for baseball, and I get the feeling Troy is about to run the Sun Belt — which, in all fairness to football, is a baseball league. I think we'll be fine. I don't trust any of the rumors. What recruiting class?
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 1, 2021 17:41:19 GMT -6
Multi year ? Nope Everyone has stated, everyone, that Troy should have been winning with all the talent that is at Troy. No excuses. I agree with that, (The HC we don’t speak of) could not use lack of talent as an excuse because this program has it. Canât say old coach can use that as an excuse but let new coach use as one. Yes, our culture needs rebuilding, but that can be done quickly. Very quickly. Neal Brown rebuilt the culture extremely quickly, he just didnât have a full cupboard of talent when he took over. 2 years. Lots to fix here. The Right Coach can win 1st season. And be rocking 2nd season. The new coach will have it 10 times better than Neal did. If you have the talent, which we do and everyone agrees we do, the puzzle pieces are easier and fit quickly with the Right Coach.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 1, 2021 17:48:45 GMT -6
2 years. Lots to fix here. The Right Coach can win 1st season. And be rocking 2nd season. The new coach will have it 10 times better than Neal did. If you have the talent, which we do and everyone agrees we do, the puzzle pieces are easier and fit quickly with the Right Coach. Not everyone agrees we have talent. I think we are weak at QB and I think we are weak on the OL. We have problems and I don't have confidence we make a run for a conference title in year 1 and maybe not year 2.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 1, 2021 18:02:28 GMT -6
The Right Coach can win 1st season. And be rocking 2nd season. The new coach will have it 10 times better than Neal did. If you have the talent, which we do and everyone agrees we do, the puzzle pieces are easier and fit quickly with the Right Coach. Not everyone agrees we have talent. I think we are weak at QB and I think we are weak on the OL. We have problems and I don't have confidence we make a run for a conference title in year 1 and maybe not year 2. So you saying CL didn’t have the talent to win ?
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Post by troynation on Dec 1, 2021 18:03:18 GMT -6
We are not weak at QB!! Just have not had a QB coach for 3 yrs! Facts
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 1, 2021 18:20:15 GMT -6
We are not weak at QB!! Just have not had a QB coach for 3 yrs! Facts Welcome to the forum Mr. Watson!
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 1, 2021 18:21:15 GMT -6
Not everyone agrees we have talent. I think we are weak at QB and I think we are weak on the OL. We have problems and I don't have confidence we make a run for a conference title in year 1 and maybe not year 2. So you saying CL didn’t have the talent to win ? Probably not a SBC but there are some games we had won but CL obviously was the reason we didn't win.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 1, 2021 18:34:35 GMT -6
Not everyone agrees we have talent. I think we are weak at QB and I think we are weak on the OL. We have problems and I don't have confidence we make a run for a conference title in year 1 and maybe not year 2. So you saying CL didn’t have the talent to win ? cornhole misjudged the O line Preseason, NEVER stated we were sound at QB, Powell was a bust.
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Post by Mark Gainey on Dec 1, 2021 18:39:06 GMT -6
My advice is we all take a deep breath and relax. The truth is that when we terminated (The HC we don’t speak of) with one week left in the season and only 4 weeks until early signing period, this recruiting class was mostly lost. Hiring a coach a week ago vs a week from now isn't going to make a huge difference. We only have 10 seniors. Whoever we hire will need some time to rebuild. This is a multi-year rebuild because culture takes a long time to change. So, let's not rush it. Let them have time to get it right. I'm choosing to relax and trust our leadership. Nope. Culture can be rebuilt quickly! We have an example in our our program with Neal Brown. We have the talent now. (The HC we don’t speak of) couldnât use that as an excuse. We wouldnât allow it. We saw the talent in the program. This multi-year rebuild crap some of yâall are already toting around is negative juice not based on facts. Culture CANNOT be rebuilt quickly. It took Neal Brown an entire year and the program was in much better shape culture-wise. You underestimate the impact and power of culture. You can have ALL the talent in the world and if the culture is bad you have nothing. I'm not saying the new coach can't win year one. But it's going to take some time to rebuild the wall. One week isn't going to change that.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 1, 2021 18:42:38 GMT -6
So you saying CL didn’t have the talent to win ? cornhole misjudged the O line Preseason, NEVER stated we were sound at QB, Powell was a bust. I think we all over estimated the O-Line. Still don’t quite why our big R tackle who started all of 20 did not play at all. He grew and I thought was pretty effective. (Graham from Minneola HS)
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