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Post by buzzlightyear on Oct 17, 2021 7:28:24 GMT -6
(The HC we don’t speak of) gets his playbook back from Red Beauleu (spelling) and calls plays that mystify Coastal enough to make close game of 35-20 Chickens . But then again (The HC we don’t speak of) is not The Fonzâ¦. So unless our D can dorce at least 3 turnovers we are probably in trouble. Oh and Chicks pull away with 10 late.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Oct 17, 2021 9:23:01 GMT -6
That's one way it could go I suppose. Another way is that we lose once again to a team we have never lost to until fester arrived. I'm not denying that Coastal won a few games over the last couple of years, but we were an ELITE COLLEGE FOOTBALL TEAM. Don't ever forget what fester has taken from us.
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Oct 18, 2021 7:44:58 GMT -6
Not to be a downer here, but the "easy" part of our schedule is over. We have a good defense, but you can tell at times it's not a great defense, as evidenced by the last two weeks' near collapses. Some of our weaknesses on that side of the ball have been exposed. Time to put up or shup and see if our defense is actually for real against real offenses like Coastal, App, Louisiana, and a rejuvenated South. Offensively, we'll have to see if Gunnar Watson is capable of getting this offense up to speed. Not convinced he can overcome an uninspired offensive scheme and terrible playcalling.
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 18, 2021 8:12:29 GMT -6
If (The HC we don’t speak of) pulls an upset on Coastal, he gets his 2-year extension. very very high probability. Itâs sad but true.
If (The HC we don’t speak of) loses, itâs wait and see how the season pans out for the Administration. The ChipShip is still floating.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Oct 18, 2021 8:14:01 GMT -6
. Not convinced he can overcome an uninspired offensive scheme and terrible playcalling. You think? Not sure uninspired and terrible quite grasps the nature of it. I know all of us keyboard coaches think we could do better. The fact is I could randomly pick anyone of the keyboard coaches and they would probably due just as well as (The HC we don’t speak of). Does that make us all guru's?
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Post by trojanmatt on Oct 18, 2021 10:07:40 GMT -6
3 possibilities after the Myrtle Beach Cocks Game
1. (The HC we don’t speak of) wins and secures his job for 1 more year, ( not likely) 9.4% chance ESPN predictor 2 devastating loss on national tv sends him packing 50/50 3 loses 3 rd close game to them and is retained only for 1 more week to hopefully put a plan together to beat the team from mobile and then is let go 75%
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 18, 2021 13:01:44 GMT -6
3 possibilities after the Myrtle Beach Cocks Game 1. (The HC we don’t speak of) wins and secures his job for 1 more year, ( not likely) 9.4% chance ESPN predictor 2 devastating loss on national tv sends him packing 50/50 3 loses 3 rd close game to them and is retained only for 1 more week to hopefully put a plan together to beat the team from mobile and then is let go 75% Hearing none of those are possibilities
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Post by trojanmatt on Oct 18, 2021 14:58:54 GMT -6
Saint, please let me know what you are hearing.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 18, 2021 15:07:58 GMT -6
Saint, please let me know what you are hearing. Option #4 Nobody will hire (The HC we don’t speak of) as a OC. Hawkins doesn't want to admit his hire is a complete and utter failure so Hawkins gets him to take a pay cut and gives him a three year extension in exchange for calling the new Cheer Building Hawkins has planned the Linsdey Cheerleader Performance Center
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Oct 18, 2021 16:06:13 GMT -6
There is a quite real possibility we lose out. Fact.
Cheerleader Performance Center, I like the sound of that, but I would take a glorified gazebo so the team could practice in bad weather.
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Post by crawlspace13 on Oct 18, 2021 16:53:31 GMT -6
Offensively, we'll have to see if Gunnar Watson is capable of getting this offense up to speed. Gunner isn't a coach or part of the staff. Gunner alone can't compensate for piss poor coaching and a staff that doesn't seem to know how to develop an offense of college kids who still need to be taught and trained. Short of Gunner just saying F it and running the ball as close to the endzone as he can get every play, he isn't going to fix the actual problems we have. The QB isn't what's breaking or making this team. I say this largely because I don't want to see people go after him with pitchforks when we fail miserably and get curb stomped. It's not on him.
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Oct 19, 2021 13:49:59 GMT -6
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Oct 19, 2021 13:50:20 GMT -6
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 19, 2021 14:00:29 GMT -6
Saint, please let me know what you are hearing. Unless he loses the locker room, CL is coaching through Georgia State. If a decision is to let him go, Hawkins will not pay money now when he can wait a few months and pay little. Hawkins loves when players love the coach. If CL can finish out with some wins and Hawkins sees an “upward trajectory” a extension can be given. One that is minimum years, lower base pay that is heavily, heavily incentive based. (If he upsets Coastal, highly likely he returns, that publicly would go a long way with Hawkins) BUT things can and often change quickly, input from people who matter come in all the time and can change. Hawkins prefers not to go through another coaching change now, especially if he sees fundraising is not dipping.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 19, 2021 14:46:49 GMT -6
Hey we are #90. Good thing we have an offensive guru as HC/OC
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Post by asacarter on Oct 19, 2021 15:01:42 GMT -6
If coastal wins in the boonies tomorrow they wont be us but by 30 but if they lose. Oh gracious it maybe real bad
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Post by appfan82 on Oct 19, 2021 17:59:57 GMT -6
If coastal wins in the boonies tomorrow they wont be us but by 30 but if they lose. Oh gracious it maybe real bad It all depends on which App State team shows up. The one that played at LaLa last week could lose to anyone. I'm already weary with Coastal getting so much glory for beating the likes of UMass, Kansas, and stAte and really hope we beat them soundly. Time will tell. Other Sun Belt foes have earned my respect. I have no respect for Coastal.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Oct 19, 2021 19:22:41 GMT -6
If coastal wins in the boonies tomorrow they wont be us but by 30 but if they lose. Oh gracious it maybe real bad It all depends on which App State team shows up. The one that played at LaLa last week could lose to anyone. I'm already weary with Coastal getting so much glory for beating the likes of UMass, Kansas, and stAte and really hope we beat them soundly. Time will tell. Other Sun Belt foes have earned my respect. I have no respect for Coastal. They were kind of butt chafing last year.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Oct 19, 2021 21:58:22 GMT -6
Saint, please let me know what you are hearing. Unless he loses the locker room, CL is coaching through Georgia State. If a decision is to let him go, Hawkins will not pay money now when he can wait a few months and pay little. Hawkins loves when players love the coach. If CL can finish out with some wins and Hawkins sees an “upward trajectory” a extension can be given. One that is minimum years, lower base pay that is heavily, heavily incentive based. (If he upsets Coastal, highly likely he returns, that publicly would go a long way with Hawkins) BUT things can and often change quickly, input from people who matter come in all the time and can change. Hawkins prefers not to go through another coaching change now, especially if he sees fundraising is not dipping. Serious question, not sarcastic: What about when people stop showing up for games, will the "upward trajectory" and publicity matter to Jack then?
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 19, 2021 23:47:08 GMT -6
Unless he loses the locker room, CL is coaching through Georgia State. If a decision is to let him go, Hawkins will not pay money now when he can wait a few months and pay little. Hawkins loves when players love the coach. If CL can finish out with some wins and Hawkins sees an “upward trajectory” a extension can be given. One that is minimum years, lower base pay that is heavily, heavily incentive based. (If he upsets Coastal, highly likely he returns, that publicly would go a long way with Hawkins) BUT things can and often change quickly, input from people who matter come in all the time and can change. Hawkins prefers not to go through another coaching change now, especially if he sees fundraising is not dipping. Serious question, not sarcastic: What about when people stop showing up for games, will the "upward trajectory" and publicity matter to Jack then? It depends. Say Hawkins can tolerate certain levels of fan support
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Post by troyjan95 on Oct 20, 2021 6:07:53 GMT -6
If coastal wins in the boonies tomorrow they wont be us but by 30 but if they lose. Oh gracious it maybe real bad It all depends on which App State team shows up. The one that played at LaLa last week could lose to anyone. I'm already weary with Coastal getting so much glory for beating the likes of UMass, Kansas, and stAte and really hope we beat them soundly. Time will tell. Other Sun Belt foes have earned my respect. I have no respect for Coastal. Coastal cut the head off of a stuffed animal wolf after beating Arkansas State - they have obviously never won before. Good luck tonight App State.
I have great respect for App and had a blast visiting a few years ago for the game in Boone. Ran into a couple of fringe fans but everyone in Boone were fantastic host. Hope we treat them the same.
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Post by appfan82 on Oct 20, 2021 9:19:18 GMT -6
It all depends on which App State team shows up. The one that played at LaLa last week could lose to anyone. I'm already weary with Coastal getting so much glory for beating the likes of UMass, Kansas, and stAte and really hope we beat them soundly. Time will tell. Other Sun Belt foes have earned my respect. I have no respect for Coastal. Coastal cut the head off of a stuffed animal wolf after beating Arkansas State - they have obviously never won before. Good luck tonight App State.
I have great respect for App and had a blast visiting a few years ago for the game in Boone. Ran into a couple of fringe fans but everyone in Boone were fantastic host. Hope we treat them the same.
Thanks! Troy is one of the teams and fanbases that I respect. Much of that comes from knowing how to win (and lose) with a degree of grace and humility. Being a native Alabamian, it comes as no surprise that one of my favorite quotes on the subject is from Bear Bryant. In meeting witih the media after a loss, Coach Bryant had this to say: “It’s awfully important to win with humility. It’s also important to lose. I hate to lose more than anyone, but if you don’t lose, you don’t know how to act. If you lose with humility, then you can come back.”
Yes, every fanbase has its lunatics. I try to steer clear of those regardless of the school (though I did "challenge" a drunk JMU fan to a spelling contest in 2008 - sotto voce of course). Troy fans have always been great hosts in Troy and great guests in Boone. As my dear mother-in-law would say, y'all are chronically welcome in our town. See you in Troy on the 20th!
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Post by scatman on Oct 20, 2021 21:00:25 GMT -6
Storming the field against a conference opponent is a really terrible look for App. I have a feeling that the loss will make CCU mad and they’ll thoroughly spank our tail.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 20, 2021 21:11:37 GMT -6
30-27, App wins. Couldn't happen to a lesser opponent. Coastal woulda done the same, or worse. Rub it in Boonies, great win!
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Post by cornhole on Oct 20, 2021 21:18:37 GMT -6
Storming the field against a conference opponent is a really terrible look for App. I have a feeling that the loss will make CCU mad and they’ll thoroughly spank our tail. Ok so, difference is about 28 points. 49-10 vs 21-10,, Coastal wins either way and our "Problem" is closer to resolution. Great win for the App program.
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