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Post by Mr. Ho on Dec 13, 2020 16:36:03 GMT -6
So the elephant in the room - rumblings of (The HC we don’t speak of) being let go for whatever reason - is this true or just gossip? Where do you want to start?
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Post by Troystet on Dec 13, 2020 16:37:20 GMT -6
So the elephant in the room - rumblings of (The HC we don’t speak of) being let go for whatever reason - is this true or just gossip? Where do you want to start? Could it be a Festivus Miracle?
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Post by troyjan95 on Dec 13, 2020 17:29:47 GMT -6
So the elephant in the room - rumblings of (The HC we don’t speak of) being let go for whatever reason - is this true or just gossip? Where do you want to start? Great question Ho. Where do I want to start? Is there truth (The HC we don’t speak of) may no longer be the Head Coach at Troy prior to National Signing Day - Early Period?
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Dec 13, 2020 17:30:29 GMT -6
I seriously doubt (The HC we don’t speak of) being let go, not if the $1miilion buyout is true. If they did let him go it would be because they see the other schools getting a jump on their rebuilds.
I'm going to go against the grain though, and say no on Ainsley. He might be a great position coach and Troy alum but we need a proven winner HC. We need a culture change.
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Post by troyjan95 on Dec 13, 2020 17:31:33 GMT -6
So the elephant in the room - rumblings of (The HC we don’t speak of) being let go for whatever reason - is this true or just gossip? Are you asking or telling ? Saintflorian - are you the real (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of)? I am just joking, okay.
I will have to say - the team has played pretty hard all year. I think the Defense has gotten better. However, we still have not beat many opponents with a winning record. And I think our program is headed in the wrong direction. Just my opinion. ;-)
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Post by troyjan95 on Dec 13, 2020 17:32:30 GMT -6
I seriously doubt (The HC we don’t speak of) being let go, not if the $1miilion buyout is true. If they did let him go it would be because they see the other schools getting a jump on their rebuilds. I'm going to go against the grain though, and say no on Ainsley. He might be a great position coach and Troy alum but we need a proven winner HC. We need a culture change. I don't think Neal Brown was a Head Coach and he changed the culture. Am I wrong?
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 13, 2020 17:34:38 GMT -6
I seriously doubt (The HC we don’t speak of) being let go, not if the $1miilion buyout is true. If they did let him go it would be because they see the other schools getting a jump on their rebuilds. I'm going to go against the grain though, and say no on Ainsley. He might be a great position coach and Troy alum but we need a proven winner HC. We need a culture change. I don't think Neal Brown was a Head Coach and he changed the culture. Am I wrong? Youâre not wrong. Was XHCNB a diamond in the rough? Could we find another?
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Dec 13, 2020 17:36:48 GMT -6
Neal Brown was exceptional. College football, or at least the Sunbelt, gets so many Neal Browns per generation. (The HC we don’t speak of) was an SEC assistant, too, and I haven't seen a evidence that he was even as good a QB coach as he was made out to be.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Dec 13, 2020 17:47:32 GMT -6
Ansley is not (The HC we don’t speak of). (The HC we don’t speak of) is nowhere in the vicinity of DA! You can hear that in the 2 videos Mr. Ho posted.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Dec 13, 2020 17:56:00 GMT -6
Let me be clear. I didn't say Ainsley and (The HC we don’t speak of) were the same, I was trying to say that just because one SEC assistant worked doesn't mean they will always work. Ainsley isn't ready. We need experience, and not experience at losing.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Dec 13, 2020 18:01:03 GMT -6
I seriously doubt (The HC we don’t speak of) being let go, not if the $1miilion buyout is true. If they did let him go it would be because they see the other schools getting a jump on their rebuilds. I'm going to go against the grain though, and say no on Ainsley. He might be a great position coach and Troy alum but we need a proven winner HC. We need a culture change. (The HC we don’t speak of)'s buyout is nowhere near a million and considering the circumstances surrounding his demise, I think he would negotiate a settlement. At a minimum, payout over multiple years. Deal with it or take us to court. A lot could be revealed then that might not be pleasant.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 13, 2020 18:02:42 GMT -6
Not a SEC Offensive Coordinator. Administration only hire SEC offensive coordinator For those here who don't understand this clown: 1st statement is a FACT. The SEC thing is sarcasm.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Dec 13, 2020 18:09:04 GMT -6
I seriously doubt (The HC we don’t speak of) being let go, not if the $1miilion buyout is true. If they did let him go it would be because they see the other schools getting a jump on their rebuilds. I'm going to go against the grain though, and say no on Ainsley. He might be a great position coach and Troy alum but we need a proven winner HC. We need a culture change. (The HC we don’t speak of)'s buyout is nowhere near a million and considering the circumstances surrounding his demise, I think he would negotiate a settlement. At a minimum, payout over multiple years. Deal with it or take us to court. A lot could be revealed then that might not be pleasant. The buyout info is a relief. I was curious who the dumbass was that would make a contract like that. Maybe I was just a dumbass for believing it. Anyway, we still have to see if the ULM game is going to happen before any admins make a decision on (The HC we don’t speak of), right? If ULM cancels how long would it take to make a decison? The admins probably know what they want to do already.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Dec 13, 2020 19:11:59 GMT -6
I seriously doubt (The HC we don’t speak of) being let go, not if the $1miilion buyout is true. If they did let him go it would be because they see the other schools getting a jump on their rebuilds. I'm going to go against the grain though, and say no on Ainsley. He might be a great position coach and Troy alum but we need a proven winner HC. We need a culture change. (The HC we don’t speak of)'s buyout is nowhere near a million and considering the circumstances surrounding his demise, I think he would negotiate a settlement. At a minimum, payout over multiple years. Deal with it or take us to court. A lot could be revealed then that might not be pleasant. As of 12/1 his buyout was just over $1.7 million sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
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Post by Troystet on Dec 13, 2020 19:15:32 GMT -6
Not a SEC Offensive Coordinator. Administration only hire SEC offensive coordinator For those here who don't understand this clown: 1st statement is a FACT. The SEC thing is sarcasm. Oohh. I'm devastated. Cornholio called me a clown. Are you in a bad mood because you need TP for your bung hole?
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Post by Troystet on Dec 13, 2020 19:18:38 GMT -6
(The HC we don’t speak of)'s buyout is nowhere near a million and considering the circumstances surrounding his demise, I think he would negotiate a settlement. At a minimum, payout over multiple years. Deal with it or take us to court. A lot could be revealed then that might not be pleasant. As of 12/1 his buyout was just over $1.7 million sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/Well then to ask for another poster..who was the dumb @$$ that negotiated that contract? Isn't that higher than NB's buyout?
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Dec 13, 2020 19:35:45 GMT -6
Maybe it goes down signifcantly when the season is compleated.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 13, 2020 19:58:39 GMT -6
I like the idea of DA being a head coach. As far as bung holes and salve and such I am not in favor of those associated with a head coach. But DA good idea.
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Post by bennekles on Dec 13, 2020 20:14:25 GMT -6
OK so, Ho know that the current HC is still HC, but when that is not the case Ho will start the trouble. Next Head Coach: Derrick AnsleyWhy: He has an impressive resume of both college and professional coaching experience Career is on the rise; currently DC at Tennessee (last years defense was outstanding, this year not so much); DB Coach for the Raiders (complete turn-around for their DBs; under Gruden - which I would probably say a position coach workload in the NFL is equal to or more than a college coordinator), he also got rave reviews about this short stay there - from Gruden AND the media, results on the field too; DB Backs Coach at Bammer for two season before heading to Oakland; BOWL GAMES COACHED IN (7) 2020 TaxSlayer Gator Bowl – Tennessee 2018 CFP National Championship Game – Alabama 2018 CFP National Semifinal Sugar Bowl – Alabama 2017 CFP National Championship Game – Alabama 2016 CFP National Semifinal Peach Bowl – Alabama 2012 BCS National Championship Game – Alabama 2011 Citrus Bowl – Alabama Has coached 16 draft picks/6 1st rounders Intangibles: Played at Troy - and played well. Brought the TMTDM attitude every game every play including part of an incredible EIGHT play goal line stand against Corn our first year in DI - that's right four stops at the one followed by a turnover, then another four stops inside the 4. I will post a picture of the first fourth and goal stop - if I can. Teammates with Demarcus Ware and Osi Umenyouri - getting them involved more. Wife is also a Troy gal. Is from Tallasee. Might also bring Shelton Felton (former Troy DL and current UT DE coach), Shelton coached at Colquit County, GA during their run of domination in Georgia. He is only 38 - still young enough to relate. While there are other good names in the mix, Ho wants someone that will represent our school, our values and our family every time he makes a call to a recruit, every time he gives an interview and every time he goes out to dinner with his family. Derrick Ansley does that because he is one of us and while people will say that didn't work out for Bammer - Ho beg to differ. It means something to choose to play at Troy, play well at Troy and understand that we aren't Bammer. That things aren't handed to us. That it takes more effort to succeed than elsewhere. But we won't back down to anyone. Troy has or had so many strikes against it, but the culture is such that everyone expects to win and that just didn't start with Neal Brown. It started waaaay back to Chan Gailey...maybe even back to the Sym Byrd days. That whole crew started the ball rolling. Derrick took a chance with Troy. He was there when we were a 52.5 point underdog to Nebraska and walked off that field to a standing ovation from the Corn faithful. We should do likewise and hire him - it wouldn't be taking a chance though. We know his soul. Finally, Ho should preface that Derrick would be his first choice of HC even if any of the recent wave of wokeness hadn't happened. He is qualified period!!! With that said, it would be a historic move for Troy and the Sunbelt. More importantly, it would certainly get people to shift from talking about what just happened to what is about to happen. Pull the trigger and let's get back to stomping people. TMTDM Attitude: I want that picture as a Daniel Moore style print.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Dec 13, 2020 20:20:06 GMT -6
(The HC we don’t speak of)'s buyout is nowhere near a million and considering the circumstances surrounding his demise, I think he would negotiate a settlement. At a minimum, payout over multiple years. Deal with it or take us to court. A lot could be revealed then that might not be pleasant. As of 12/1 his buyout was just over $1.7 million sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/His buy out is no where near that number...it could be ZERO with cause. But expect there to be an undisclosed settlement. Book it.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Dec 13, 2020 20:20:54 GMT -6
OK so, Ho know that the current HC is still HC, but when that is not the case Ho will start the trouble. Next Head Coach: Derrick AnsleyWhy: He has an impressive resume of both college and professional coaching experience Career is on the rise; currently DC at Tennessee (last years defense was outstanding, this year not so much); DB Coach for the Raiders (complete turn-around for their DBs; under Gruden - which I would probably say a position coach workload in the NFL is equal to or more than a college coordinator), he also got rave reviews about this short stay there - from Gruden AND the media, results on the field too; DB Backs Coach at Bammer for two season before heading to Oakland; BOWL GAMES COACHED IN (7) 2020 TaxSlayer Gator Bowl – Tennessee 2018 CFP National Championship Game – Alabama 2018 CFP National Semifinal Sugar Bowl – Alabama 2017 CFP National Championship Game – Alabama 2016 CFP National Semifinal Peach Bowl – Alabama 2012 BCS National Championship Game – Alabama 2011 Citrus Bowl – Alabama Has coached 16 draft picks/6 1st rounders Intangibles: Played at Troy - and played well. Brought the TMTDM attitude every game every play including part of an incredible EIGHT play goal line stand against Corn our first year in DI - that's right four stops at the one followed by a turnover, then another four stops inside the 4. I will post a picture of the first fourth and goal stop - if I can. Teammates with Demarcus Ware and Osi Umenyouri - getting them involved more. Wife is also a Troy gal. Is from Tallasee. Might also bring Shelton Felton (former Troy DL and current UT DE coach), Shelton coached at Colquit County, GA during their run of domination in Georgia. He is only 38 - still young enough to relate. While there are other good names in the mix, Ho wants someone that will represent our school, our values and our family every time he makes a call to a recruit, every time he gives an interview and every time he goes out to dinner with his family. Derrick Ansley does that because he is one of us and while people will say that didn't work out for Bammer - Ho beg to differ. It means something to choose to play at Troy, play well at Troy and understand that we aren't Bammer. That things aren't handed to us. That it takes more effort to succeed than elsewhere. But we won't back down to anyone. Troy has or had so many strikes against it, but the culture is such that everyone expects to win and that just didn't start with Neal Brown. It started waaaay back to Chan Gailey...maybe even back to the Sym Byrd days. That whole crew started the ball rolling. Derrick took a chance with Troy. He was there when we were a 52.5 point underdog to Nebraska and walked off that field to a standing ovation from the Corn faithful. We should do likewise and hire him - it wouldn't be taking a chance though. We know his soul. Finally, Ho should preface that Derrick would be his first choice of HC even if any of the recent wave of wokeness hadn't happened. He is qualified period!!! With that said, it would be a historic move for Troy and the Sunbelt. More importantly, it would certainly get people to shift from talking about what just happened to what is about to happen. Pull the trigger and let's get back to stomping people. TMTDM Attitude: I want that picture as a Daniel Moore style print. Ho have no idea where he got that...it's pretty awesome.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Dec 13, 2020 20:27:12 GMT -6
We've already given on the job training for two head coaches. One turned out great, the other is why we have this thread.
Why does it have to be an alum? Why does it have to be someone who coached FG ball holders with Blakeney 9 years ago?
Get a young, successful coach from a I-AA school who already knows how to create a winning culture and be the leader of the program and get out of their way!
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Post by Troystet on Dec 13, 2020 20:40:39 GMT -6
South Alabama just hired 33 year old DC at Indiana. Coaching carousel thickens
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Post by psychotrojan07 on Dec 13, 2020 20:41:57 GMT -6
I wouldn’t be disappointed with Ansley but if the wish list is for head coach experience, I’d think Schinnick at UWF might be a name in the mix. He has won everywhere he’s coached including the D2 national championship in 2019 and has built a specialty in building programs from the ground up. The next coach might be facing a pretty big rebuild. D-2 did not play this year and UWF has been reluctant to get sports back going thus far so he might be interested. Not sure if he’d be ready for a jump to D1 but he seems to be a high quality human being that does not seem to have any baggage.
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Post by bennekles on Dec 13, 2020 20:43:10 GMT -6
We've already given on the job training for two head coaches. One turned out great, the other is why we have this thread. Why does it have to be an alum? Why does it have to be someone who coached FG ball holders with Blakeney 9 years ago? Get a young, successful coach from a I-AA school who already knows how to create a winning culture and be the leader of the program and get out of their way! It doesn't have to be an alum or a Blakeney assistant, but it's just like anywhere else. You want someone who knows your program from the inside, so that they know the traditions and how things are supposed to go. If DA became the head coach, I would be so proud to see him on those sidelines.
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