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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Dec 10, 2018 19:40:59 GMT -6
Was the NDSU fella their 1st choice? Just because you talk to a girl at the bar dont mean you take her home. Waking up with a chubster is a career limiting move. Trust me. DT knows. My guess would be there was pressure to keep the Kansas St guys, including Snyder’s son. Some of the other applicants likely weren’t willing to risk their future with those type of stipulations. Of course what do I know? Interesting insight sir. Like I said. This fella might not be their first choice or know what hes getting into. Look how the good ole boy bbq crew politics worked out for Franklin at AuBarn. Neal watched that and other scenarios unfold. Hes no fool.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 10, 2018 19:57:59 GMT -6
I think if CNB wanted the job he could have gotten it. I don't think K-State chose someone over him. I think CNB is playing it right. Win at Troy until a premier SEC job opens up. I think Auburn will be open at the end of next season. The Auburn boards have already thrown his name around. Turn in an 11 win season next year and I think he has it.
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Post by Possum on Dec 10, 2018 20:50:36 GMT -6
I want him to go anywhere except the Barn or Bamer.
I think this is what might happen...
Florida State coach gets fired, Stoops at Kentucky gets the Florida State gig cause he's a FSU guy, Neal goes to Kentucky.
Kentucky becomes my distantly second favorite football team.
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Post by gotroygo on Dec 10, 2018 20:53:58 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken, NDSU has more titles than Alabama
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 11, 2018 7:54:18 GMT -6
Glad Coach is staying.
Success breeds it’s own potential problems. It will be interesting to see: (now that coach is officially “out there”. Having interviewed, going through active negotiations and according to some reports the #1 but just couldn’t finalize the deal. ) - how recruiting plays out. Knowing we are going to be negatively recruited against. - how the program and coach handles next year and long term issues/solutions that arise knowing coach is most likely gone after 2019. - how the “locker room”/players react to and act to in 2019 to a coach that is most likely gone next year.
Only potential problems, if handled correctly any issues will and can be avoided. Always tricky but winning seasons, championships and bowl victories are desired and wanted so here we go.
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Post by gotroygo on Dec 11, 2018 10:42:38 GMT -6
Glad Coach is staying. Success breeds it’s own potential problems. It will be interesting to see: (now that coach is officially “out there”. Having interviewed, going through active negotiations and according to some reports the #1 but just couldn’t finalize the deal. ) - how recruiting plays out. Knowing we are going to be negatively recruited against. - how the program and coach handles next year and long term issues/solutions that arise knowing coach is most likely gone after 2019. - how the “locker room”/players react to and act to in 2019 to a coach that is most likely gone next year. Only potential problems, if handled correctly any issues will and can be avoided. Always tricky but winning seasons, championships and bowl victories are desired and wanted so here we go. I'm confident we have enough of a reputation to hire a replacement that will keep Troy competitive
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Post by Troystet on Dec 11, 2018 11:12:16 GMT -6
Was the NDSU fella their 1st choice? Just because you talk to a girl at the bar dont mean you take her home. Waking up with a chubster is a career limiting move. Trust me. DT knows. It is a good choice for them imo. #1 he's a former very successful defensive coordinator in a offense heavy conference. #2 NDSU beat KSU a few seasons ago so he is able to recruit small town rural players who can play at that level. This could be huge for a team that relies on juco players for close to 75% of its players. #3 he's a proven winner and knows the Dakota mid west area.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 11, 2018 11:37:14 GMT -6
Glad Coach is staying. Success breeds it’s own potential problems. It will be interesting to see: (now that coach is officially “out there”. Having interviewed, going through active negotiations and according to some reports the #1 but just couldn’t finalize the deal. ) - how recruiting plays out. Knowing we are going to be negatively recruited against. - how the program and coach handles next year and long term issues/solutions that arise knowing coach is most likely gone after 2019. - how the “locker room”/players react to and act to in 2019 to a coach that is most likely gone next year. Only potential problems, if handled correctly any issues will and can be avoided. Always tricky but winning seasons, championships and bowl victories are desired and wanted so here we go. I'm confident we have enough of a reputation to hire a replacement that will keep Troy competitive Ok, agree. But none of my post was concerning the eventual replacement hire.
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Post by gotroygo on Dec 11, 2018 11:47:06 GMT -6
I'm confident we have enough of a reputation to hire a replacement that will keep Troy competitive Ok, agree. But none of my post was concerning the eventual replacement hire. I think Neal Brown ulitmate goal would be the Kentucky job, but Stoops isn't going anywhere. Just had the best record since 77. Taggart is on the hot seat at FSU but would Stoops want to go there?
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Post by crawlspace13 on Dec 11, 2018 12:23:26 GMT -6
Ok, agree. But none of my post was concerning the eventual replacement hire. I think Neal Brown ulitmate goal would be the Kentucky job, but Stoops isn't going anywhere. Just had the best record since 77. Taggart is on the hot seat at FSU but would Stoops want to go there? Off topic, but it really isn't fair to Taggart to put him on the hot seat yet. He took over a program that is an absolute mess with lots of players who think they're better as individuals than as a team. Now I do think he needs to grow a set and start really diaplining his players, but that's been a huge cultural problem for awhile. Jimbo left a steaming pile of poo on the doorstep when he rolled out o Tallahassee, and the boosters dont make discipline easy.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 11, 2018 13:06:30 GMT -6
I think Neal Brown ulitmate goal would be the Kentucky job, but Stoops isn't going anywhere. Just had the best record since 77. Taggart is on the hot seat at FSU but would Stoops want to go there? Off topic, but it really isn't fair to Taggart to put him on the hot seat yet. He took over a program that is an absolute mess with lots of players who think they're better as individuals than as a team. Now I do think he needs to grow a set and start really diaplining his players, but that's been a huge cultural problem for awhile. Jimbo left a steaming pile of poo on the doorstep when he rolled out o Tallahassee, and the boosters dont make discipline easy. I agree a loss of control is a death nail. It happened at Troy and the first hint at FSU was Dumbo siding with Jamison about all his bull. If your star can do that it will eat a program from inside out. Heck he did not even make it back after their National Championship for two weeks after the semester started and by the way he still got to play baseball after taking two weeks off. Nice schedule. Obviously the absurd but that eats at others who are expected to do the right thing. It destroys respect and then everything else.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 11, 2018 13:12:41 GMT -6
Off topic, but it really isn't fair to Taggart to put him on the hot seat yet. He took over a program that is an absolute mess with lots of players who think they're better as individuals than as a team. Now I do think he needs to grow a set and start really diaplining his players, but that's been a huge cultural problem for awhile. Jimbo left a steaming pile of poo on the doorstep when he rolled out o Tallahassee, and the boosters dont make discipline easy. I agree a loss of control is a death nail. It happened at Troy and the first hint at FSU was Dumbo siding with Jamison about all his bull. If your star can do that it will eat a program from inside out. Heck he did not even make it back after their National Championship for two weeks after the semester started and by the way he still got to play baseball after taking two weeks off. Nice schedule. Obviously the absurd but that eats at others who are expected to do the right thing. It destroys respect and then everything else. Well said. FSU is a dumpster fire and more programs have fallen over these same issues. UF when Urban bailed on the prison team he covered up, Baylor, Miami after Erickson and Johnson, Oklahoma after Switzer. Happens all the time and yes boosters want wins at any cost
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Post by gotroygo on Dec 11, 2018 20:24:39 GMT -6
Blakeney had that Bobby Bowden syndrome and lost control. He should have retired 3-4 years sooner. Neal Brown has done an admirable job rebuilding
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Dec 11, 2018 20:48:32 GMT -6
Blakeney had that Bobby Bowden syndrome and lost control. He should have retired 3-4 years sooner. Neal Brown has done an admirable job rebuilding Yea. It all worked out in the end. And Sisters made some extra money.
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Post by tntrojan on Dec 12, 2018 6:37:59 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken, NDSU has more titles than Alabama They might, but missed on one back in 1984. The winner that year is vaguely familiar... 😀
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Post by trojan2003 on Dec 22, 2018 22:08:47 GMT -6
During the game, ESPN announcers implied that CNB turned down a (P5?) job offer (CNB mentioned it in an interview). Maybe it was the K-State job(?)
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Post by Troystet on Dec 22, 2018 22:30:46 GMT -6
During the game, ESPN announcers implied that CNB turned down a (P5?) job offer (CNB mentioned it in an interview). Maybe it was the K-State job(?) If it was it was the best decision he ever made. Lousy job. Only way you can try to win is the Snyder formula...juco up, win a couple of years, program goes into permanent rebuilding every season and slowly spirals down. No recruiting base and Manhattan, KS is in the middle of nowhere in a middle of nowhere state
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