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Post by saintflorian on Sept 23, 2018 22:05:32 GMT -6
Look ya'll... when you are up 35-7, you close the playbook. Why would you give anything away to your future opponents? We won the game... were we not as entertaining in the second half? yeah... but CNB got the W. That is all that counts. In my opinion... the second half struggle will help more than if we put up another 35. It teaches that you have to play 4 quarters. I think we are getting good and we will finish the season strong. After all, I said we would lose 8 games after what I saw in week 1. The Trojans I have seen in the last 3 games are leaps and bounds better than what I saw in week 1. It’s one thing if you’re up 35-7 with 5 minutes left in the game and close the playbook, it’s another when you close it up 35-7 at the half. What do you mean by “giving something away to your future opponents”? We could’ve came out with the same offensive scheme we used in the 1st half and won much more decisively. BJ Smith can’t carry the team for an entire half. It’s a team effort. At the end of the day all that matters is we won. But I would like to get an answer in regards to why the offensive play calling was totally different in the 2nd half. Agree. Our opponents have already seen your playbook in the 1st half. Why not keep running you playbook from 1st half until they prove they can stop it. Then adjust. This is not the 1st time this has occurred with CNB. Why not go for th knockout. Try to get up two more scores 49-7 and put in the #2’s. Instead you grind down the # 1’s because you acting scared.
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Post by skeeter on Sept 24, 2018 5:48:43 GMT -6
It’s one thing if you’re up 35-7 with 5 minutes left in the game and close the playbook, it’s another when you close it up 35-7 at the half. What do you mean by “giving something away to your future opponents”? We could’ve came out with the same offensive scheme we used in the 1st half and won much more decisively. BJ Smith can’t carry the team for an entire half. It’s a team effort. At the end of the day all that matters is we won. But I would like to get an answer in regards to why the offensive play calling was totally different in the 2nd half. Agree. Our opponents have already seen your playbook in the 1st half. Why not keep running you playbook from 1st half until they prove they can stop it. Then adjust. This is not the 1st time this has occurred with CNB. Why not go for th knockout. Try to get up two more scores 49-7 and put in the #2’s. Instead you grind down the # 1’s because you acting scared. A win is a win but the question I would like to ask is what is happening with our defense, we can not tackle. Our offense scored 35 points in the first half and CNB should have been able to play conservative football in the second half but we are having problems tackling an play assignment football on that side of the ball. We are not being consistent from week to week.
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Post by troyfan87 on Sept 24, 2018 5:54:41 GMT -6
It’s one thing if you’re up 35-7 with 5 minutes left in the game and close the playbook, it’s another when you close it up 35-7 at the half. What do you mean by “giving something away to your future opponents”? We could’ve came out with the same offensive scheme we used in the 1st half and won much more decisively. BJ Smith can’t carry the team for an entire half. It’s a team effort. At the end of the day all that matters is we won. But I would like to get an answer in regards to why the offensive play calling was totally different in the 2nd half. Agree. Our opponents have already seen your playbook in the 1st half. Why not keep running you playbook from 1st half until they prove they can stop it. Then adjust. This is not the 1st time this has occurred with CNB. Why not go for th knockout. Try to get up two more scores 49-7 and put in the #2’s. Instead you grind down the # 1’s because you acting scared. Yes! Doesn't really matter if the opponent knows your plays or not. If you run them near perfect its gonna be hard to stop it. For years everybody knew Alabama was gonna run the ball more than pass but could never stop it Like i said many posts back i don't like the conservative play. Put your 2's and 3's in and give them the same opportunity as the 1st team. When you put them in expect them to run the offense just like the 1st team if not better. Give them a chance...let those guys get some stats.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 24, 2018 6:56:19 GMT -6
Agree. Our opponents have already seen your playbook in the 1st half. Why not keep running you playbook from 1st half until they prove they can stop it. Then adjust. This is not the 1st time this has occurred with CNB. Why not go for th knockout. Try to get up two more scores 49-7 and put in the #2’s. Instead you grind down the # 1’s because you acting scared. A win is a win but the question I would like to ask is what is happening with our defense, we can not tackle. Our offense scored 35 points in the first half and CNB should have been able to play conservative football in the second half but we are having problems tackling an play assignment football on that side of the ball. We are not being consistent from week to week. Yes, W is a W. But the coaches are NOT calling for the team to perform bad tackling. The coaches are calling the bad O calls, the are purposely changing who we are and what normally do. Yes we scored 35 points in the 1st half, 0 in the 2nd half. Another touchdown could have made all the difference. No logic in shutting it down for an entire half.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 24, 2018 6:57:44 GMT -6
Agree. Our opponents have already seen your playbook in the 1st half. Why not keep running you playbook from 1st half until they prove they can stop it. Then adjust. This is not the 1st time this has occurred with CNB. Why not go for th knockout. Try to get up two more scores 49-7 and put in the #2’s. Instead you grind down the # 1’s because you acting scared. Yes! Doesn't really matter if the opponent knows your plays or not. If you run them near perfect its gonna be hard to stop it. For years everybody knew Alabama was gonna run the ball more than pass but could never stop it Like i said many posts back i don't like the conservative play. Put your 2's and 3's in and give them the same opportunity as the 1st team. When you put them in expect them to run the offense just like the 1st team if not better. Give them a chance...let those guys get some stats. Exactly. We need to be who we are. Run the offense you practice. And if you up big, the 2nd team gets snaps, which is huge because you will need them in a game in the future.
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Post by jd on Sept 24, 2018 9:44:35 GMT -6
At the half, CNB said he was going to tell the team the score is 0-0. He wanted the team to play with energy and not play like they just scored 35 unanswered points. But the play calling was exactly like we were up 50. When we “manage the clock” early we lose tempo. With tempo goes energy. I’m not questioning CNB’s coaching ability, I’m questioning what he said and what we saw. I’m glad we won but the 2nd half gives me concern.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Sept 24, 2018 10:00:58 GMT -6
You know guys the fact is emotion has so much to do with college football. We were up 35-7 and things were clicking and to a 18-23 y/0 mind that says: “We got this” In the locker room of ULM they were doubting and came out and some things worked like picking up after 2nd and 32 a 3rd and 24. One thing led to another and they believed. Our guys were thinking after one then another (and Jabir was out) DAMN QUICKSAND! Unlike the pros emotions sway big comebacks and other strange college game scores. Once things roll in college they roll and I am not talking about Satan’s team up in Tickaboolooha Alabama
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 24, 2018 10:12:01 GMT -6
You know guys the fact is emotion has so much to do with college football. We were up 35-7 and things were clicking and to a 18-23 y/0 mind that says: “We got this” In the locker room of ULM they were doubting and came out and some things worked like picking up after 2nd and 32 a 3rd and 24. One thing led to another and they believed. Our guys were thinking after one then another (and Jabir was out) DAMN QUICKSAND! Unlike the pros emotions sway big comebacks and other strange college game scores. Once things roll in college they roll and I am not talking about Satan’s team up in Tickaboolooha Alabama Please don’t use logic here. It confuses the sky is falling crowd.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 24, 2018 11:02:39 GMT -6
You know guys the fact is emotion has so much to do with college football. We were up 35-7 and things were clicking and to a 18-23 y/0 mind that says: “We got this” In the locker room of ULM they were doubting and came out and some things worked like picking up after 2nd and 32 a 3rd and 24. One thing led to another and they believed. Our guys were thinking after one then another (and Jabir was out) DAMN QUICKSAND! Unlike the pros emotions sway big comebacks and other strange college game scores. Once things roll in college they roll and I am not talking about Satan’s team up in Tickaboolooha Alabama Emotion is college football. But the coaching staff needs to place these kids in a position to maintain positive emotion to continue to pursue the defeat of the opposing team. When you start calling plays drive after drive that are counter to that thinking, then these kids follow that lead. The players were following the mindset of the staff. Again makes no sense in shutting down your entire game plan at half.
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Post by cornhole on Sept 24, 2018 11:32:52 GMT -6
The majority here keep pointing to Troy's O in the 2nd half. The third qtr Time of Possession reveals Troy only had the ball 4:29 vs ULM 10:31. Looks like our D couldn't get off the field on the third, hence our O had little time to play. Looks to me the third was a Trojan D issue.
In the 4th, Troy TOP was approx 9:30 vs Hawks 4:30. By the 4th, ULM was knocking and appears our O played to preserve the w.
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Post by terry42 on Sept 24, 2018 11:56:05 GMT -6
The majority here keep pointing to Troy's O in the 2nd half. The third qtr Time of Possession reveals Troy only had the ball 4:29 vs ULM 10:31. Looks like our D couldn't get off the field on the third, hence our O had little time to play. Looks to me the third was a Trojan D issue. In the 4th, Troy TOP was approx 9:30 vs Hawks 4:30. By the 4th, ULM was knocking and appears our O played to preserve the w. All our announcers said the whole second half was burn the clock.I just can’t figure out why it’s so hard to understand that you don’t try and sit on a lead for a whole half.Trying to finish the clock up 28 in 4th is fine,not at the beginning of 3rd.One td in the third would have put the stake through the heart. Yes,Troy won and I’m happy about that,but in the words of Coach Nick “It’s how you finish”
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Post by cornhole on Sept 24, 2018 12:03:35 GMT -6
The majority here keep pointing to Troy's O in the 2nd half. The third qtr Time of Possession reveals Troy only had the ball 4:29 vs ULM 10:31. Looks like our D couldn't get off the field on the third, hence our O had little time to play. Looks to me the third was a Trojan D issue. In the 4th, Troy TOP was approx 9:30 vs Hawks 4:30. By the 4th, ULM was knocking and appears our O played to preserve the w. All our announcers said the whole second half was burn the clock.I just can’t figure out why it’s so hard to understand that you don’t try and sit on a lead for a whole half.Trying to finish the clock up 28 in 4th is fine,not at the beginning of 3rd.One td in the third would have put the stake through the heart. Yes,Troy won and I’m happy about that,but in the words of Coach Nick “It’s how you finish” Let me help you. We only controlled the ball less than 1/3 of the 3rd qtr. Beyond me how folks can point to the troy O in the 3rd, for whatever reason. Our D couldn't get off the field, meaning, stop their O, for most of the third.
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Post by jd on Sept 24, 2018 12:11:12 GMT -6
In general, TOP is a useless stat. To extend TOP you need first downs. Taking energy out of the game hurts your ability to get first downs. If we could have kept the same offensive mindset we may could have picked up a few. Then we would have had the ball longer.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Sept 24, 2018 12:19:12 GMT -6
New week is here. Time to move on, young bucks.
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Post by terry42 on Sept 24, 2018 12:21:37 GMT -6
All our announcers said the whole second half was burn the clock.I just can’t figure out why it’s so hard to understand that you don’t try and sit on a lead for a whole half.Trying to finish the clock up 28 in 4th is fine,not at the beginning of 3rd.One td in the third would have put the stake through the heart. Yes,Troy won and I’m happy about that,but in the words of Coach Nick “It’s how you finish” Let me help you. We only controlled the ball less than 1/3 of the 3rd qtr. Beyond me how folks can point to the troy O in the 3rd, for whatever reason. Our D couldn't get off the field, meaning, stop their O, for most of the third. Go back and look,o didn’t help d either.5 plays punt,4 plays punt,3 and out,3 and out.Thats Troy,s third quarter.Maybe TOP would have been a little more even if we do something when we have the ball.
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Post by jd on Sept 24, 2018 12:22:36 GMT -6
That’s true. Go Trojans.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 24, 2018 12:53:37 GMT -6
In general, TOP is a useless stat. To extend TOP you need first downs. Taking energy out of the game hurts your ability to get first downs. If we could have kept the same offensive mindset we may could have picked up a few. Then we would have had the ball longer. Damn, just straight up common sense logic.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Sept 24, 2018 12:58:39 GMT -6
Never let off the gas! Keep the figure 4 leg lock on until they tap out!
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 24, 2018 13:26:33 GMT -6
Never let off the gas! Keep the figure 4 leg lock on until they tap out! Amen brother !
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Post by skeeter on Sept 24, 2018 13:36:01 GMT -6
New week is here. Time to move on, young bucks. True statement but, leadership, leadership, leadership we need that leadership on and off the field.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Sept 24, 2018 13:36:13 GMT -6
Never let off the gas! Keep the figure 4 leg lock on until they tap out! Amen brother ! Or the leg breaks off... If they're still moving, beat them with that leg!
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 24, 2018 14:01:43 GMT -6
Or the leg breaks off... If they're still moving, beat them with that leg! keep Preaching
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Post by Troystet on Sept 24, 2018 14:32:59 GMT -6
You let off the gas against an inferior opponent to not run up the score (for instance we could have scored 100 points on Savannah St in 2013 and it would prove nothing)
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Post by terry42 on Sept 24, 2018 14:41:26 GMT -6
Never let off the gas! Keep the figure 4 leg lock on until they tap out! Amen brother ! AMEN and Hallelujah!!!
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Post by jd on Sept 24, 2018 16:06:26 GMT -6
I will say I think there is a time when you need to let up by sending in the 2 and 3’s. Alabama was also up 28 when Prothro broke his leg. But it was in the 4th quarter and Florida was not threatening. I don’t know what was the purpose of continuing to play their starters.
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