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Post by trojanbear on Sept 16, 2015 10:05:41 GMT -6
35 point underdog going into WI. I know we will have our hands full, just don't see 35 point underdog.
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Sept 16, 2015 10:54:49 GMT -6
Who knows. Lost of things can happen. The spread last week was Troy by 3 and we beat them by 28.
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Post by discophobia on Sept 16, 2015 11:50:22 GMT -6
I like it, I think we cover and have a shot at them. I think this team has an opportunity to be something special and I think they know it
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Post by sotsalumbigguns on Sept 16, 2015 12:25:06 GMT -6
After our first game, I'm very cautious about assuming we will beat the spread. But I hope my beloved Trojans have continued to build the fire and prove me wrong!
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 16, 2015 12:35:13 GMT -6
With the Mad & Evil Genius pulling the strings on O, we score enough to cover the 35. Hell we may even win.
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Post by Troystet on Sept 16, 2015 12:57:26 GMT -6
With the Mad & Evil Genius pulling the strings on O, we score enough to cover the 35. Hell we may even win. Didn't get to see any of the first two games other than the highlights but two things I see but I'm not sure about #1 because it wouldn't be in the highlights 1) fewer bubble screens or at least less than the 30 a game we threw last year 2) we have a attacking vertical passing game now. We are throwing deep instead of everything short Are these observations correct??
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Post by Pensacola Trojan on Sept 16, 2015 13:08:14 GMT -6
I would say much more vertical the second game compared to the first.
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Post by sotsalumbigguns on Sept 16, 2015 14:44:31 GMT -6
CNB said they weren't going to open the playbook up too far the first three games. He wanted everybody to get used to working together and also not give away too much before conference play.
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Post by discophobia on Sept 16, 2015 15:10:37 GMT -6
Get the ball to Teddy Ruben!!!
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Post by bob on Sept 16, 2015 16:35:56 GMT -6
Get the ball to Teddy Ruben!!! yep!
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Post by troyjan95 on Sept 16, 2015 21:44:24 GMT -6
Chunn being our hurts our physical running game some - burks can get it done but Chunn has a little something extra in the red zone vertical passing - yes we are better in this year than the last two or three have to give Silvers time and he will have to throw some away - sacks have killed several drives and maybe a field goal vs. punt defensively - can't afford for anyone on the line to get hurt
I think we push the spread and I hope I am dead wrong in Troy's favor - I think we score 21
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Post by trojanbrutha on Sept 16, 2015 22:56:30 GMT -6
Chunn being our hurts our physical running game some - burks can get it done but Chunn has a little something extra in the red zone vertical passing - yes we are better in this year than the last two or three have to give Silvers time and he will have to throw some away - sacks have killed several drives and maybe a field goal vs. punt defensively - can't afford for anyone on the line to get hurt I think we push the spread and I hope I am dead wrong in Troy's favor - I think we score 21 Josh Anderson...Andre Flakes...
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Post by Troystet on Sept 17, 2015 7:40:55 GMT -6
Chunn being our hurts our physical running game some - burks can get it done but Chunn has a little something extra in the red zone vertical passing - yes we are better in this year than the last two or three have to give Silvers time and he will have to throw some away - sacks have killed several drives and maybe a field goal vs. punt defensively - can't afford for anyone on the line to get hurt I think we push the spread and I hope I am dead wrong in Troy's favor - I think we score 21 Josh Anderson...Andre Flakes... Anderson has the size to be a great short yardage back
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Post by bigapplebucky on Sept 17, 2015 8:37:01 GMT -6
Wisconsin covered 32 points last week.
Just based on a gut feeling, I think the Badgers won't cover 35.5 this week, but the spread is usually designed to level out the bets on each side. If you look at Phil Steele's magazine, over the years most teams are very close to .500 ATS (against the spread). Over the last ten years Troy was 56-59-4 and Wisconsin 71-57-2.
Very generally, teams with straight up winning records tend to do a bit better ATS than teams with losing records, but Alabama, for example is 67-62-3 and Vanderbilt 64-55-1.
The biggest upset Wisconsin has suffered in my memory was in 2003 against 23 point dog, UNLV. All sorts of crazy things happened on that foggy-rainy day including a fumble return for a TD, but UNLV not only won, they beat us 23-5.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Sept 17, 2015 8:40:21 GMT -6
Troy is no stranger to upsetting the P5 schools.... Not saying that will happen, but we have a history of beating them and playing them close.
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Post by Troystet on Sept 17, 2015 10:22:53 GMT -6
Troy is no stranger to upsetting the P5 schools.... Not saying that will happen, but we have a history of beating them and playing them close. We are due for a road win against a big school ie App St over Michigan, GA Southern over UF, and just last week Toledo over Arkansas
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Post by foulpolephenom on Sept 17, 2015 10:26:33 GMT -6
Troy is no stranger to upsetting the P5 schools.... Not saying that will happen, but we have a history of beating them and playing them close. I'm not sure we have a history of beating them as much as covering the spread. We are 4-42 all-time against P5 schools and one of those wins came against Florida State in 1947.
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Sept 17, 2015 13:50:14 GMT -6
I think 5 touchdowns is a bit much. I'm hoping we can hold their huge defensive line so we can get something going on offense.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Sept 17, 2015 14:22:45 GMT -6
Troy is no stranger to upsetting the P5 schools.... Not saying that will happen, but we have a history of beating them and playing them close. I'm not sure we have a history of beating them as much as covering the spread. We are 4-42 all-time against P5 schools and one of those wins came against Florida State in 1947. I didn't say we did it often. Just that we have a history of playing them close and every now and then getting the upset.
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Post by Redwaver on Sept 17, 2015 18:15:16 GMT -6
Chunn being our hurts our physical running game some - burks can get it done but Chunn has a little something extra in the red zone vertical passing - yes we are better in this year than the last two or three have to give Silvers time and he will have to throw some away - sacks have killed several drives and maybe a field goal vs. punt defensively - can't afford for anyone on the line to get hurt I think we push the spread and I hope I am dead wrong in Troy's favor - I think we score 21 Josh Anderson...Andre Flakes... Flakes will be a good one in time!!!
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Post by Redwaver on Sept 17, 2015 18:16:16 GMT -6
Troy is no stranger to upsetting the P5 schools.... Not saying that will happen, but we have a history of beating them and playing them close. I'm not sure we have a history of beating them as much as covering the spread. We are 4-42 all-time against P5 schools and one of those wins came against Florida State in 1947. That was FSU's first year playing football I believe!
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Post by discophobia on Sept 18, 2015 8:32:39 GMT -6
I'm not sure we have a history of beating them as much as covering the spread. We are 4-42 all-time against P5 schools and one of those wins came against Florida State in 1947. That was FSU's first year playing football I believe! I wonder if their QB's were stealing lobsters and hitting women in bars back in those early days.
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Post by Troystet on Sept 18, 2015 12:04:09 GMT -6
That was FSU's first year playing football I believe! I wonder if their QB's were stealing lobsters and hitting women in bars back in those early days. I just spit out my coffee smiley-laughing001
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Post by bigapplebucky on Sept 18, 2015 17:19:47 GMT -6
I think 5 touchdowns is a bit much. I'm hoping we can hold their huge defensive line so we can get something going on offense. The Wisconsin D-line goes 296,268,272 Troy's goes 249,279,274. The UW O-line goes 325,299,316,321, and 301 The Troy O-line goes 281,306,268,320, and 299 Not a huge cumulative difference.
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Sept 21, 2015 8:08:22 GMT -6
I think 5 touchdowns is a bit much. I'm hoping we can hold their huge defensive line so we can get something going on offense. The Wisconsin D-line goes 296,268,272 Troy's goes 249,279,274. The UW O-line goes 325,299,316,321, and 301 The Troy O-line goes 281,306,268,320, and 299 Not a huge cumulative difference. Their O line average is 310 +/-, while Troys D-line average is 265, that was the difference. Just got pushed around and that made it very difficult to pressure the QB
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