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Post by preachertoo on Oct 18, 2014 21:53:52 GMT -6
This is the official vent thread for all who's spouses are tired of talking about it. When I have things on my mind and can't go to sleep I write it down so here it goes.
1. Not only were the players dead the coaches were somewhere else today. Middle of the third quarter even the guys sending in the play calls looked like they wanted to quit. One time there was only one guy motioning. I kid you not. Guess who was calling the plays!
2. Did anyone else see Trey Hall #3 on defense and CLB get into it in the 4th. LB clearly was upset and 3 clearly was having none of it. After it was over 3 walks away shaking his head like, "I don't have to put up with all this crap." He gets with other players they all start shaking their heads and show negative body language.
3. I think everyone in the stadium saw Silvers show his frustration. Did you see the exchange between coach Reagan and silvers as he walked off. I would love to know if he quit and took himself out. I personally think he did. If the coaching staff was going to make a qb change they would have done it before we were down 4 tds with just under 13 min left. His body language was one of a man done. Larry never once went and talked to him. It is off the chart now. I can't even begin to understand why LB didn't go talk to his qb.
4. There was no team on the sidelines. There were factions and groups. Even after the game I sat back and watched as they came out of the locker room. Our team is very divided. I can't imagine what they are going through. I hurt for them but there is going to have to be a leader rise up from within their ranks because there doesn't seem to be a leader in a coach's hat on the sidelines.
5. There are many questions. Just one I would like to know the answer. What happened in the locker room this week that caused this outcome? Which leads to many more questiond: Did our coaches dial it in? Is team leadership being questioned? What happened? My gut is it had nothing to do with the physical side of the game. Something happened where this team mentally and emotionally checked out. How do you get there after what we saw last week?
This hurt to watch. It's gonna hurt for a long time for our program if things don't change. I'm not sure we have one player who wants to be here and we have got to find a way to change that. We are going to have to have leaders in the fanbase step up and encourage everyone to show some serious love for these kids.
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Post by pcbtrojan on Oct 18, 2014 22:18:19 GMT -6
Kinda reminds me of an interview the late Coach John McKay had his first year with the 0-14 Tampa Bay Buccaneers when he was asked about the execution of the offense. He rolled his eyes up and said "I'm all for it.". Seems like both sides have given up on each other. Oh well the sun will come up tomorrow. By December we will have a new coach and staff. Time to move on.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Oct 18, 2014 22:21:53 GMT -6
One man take over train wreck (maybe psychologically, but we worse on the field) and he pull out of flames. This man can start recruit today and stop bleeding. At this rate - WHO WANTS THIS JOB?
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Post by cornhole on Oct 18, 2014 22:38:30 GMT -6
Chandler Worthy showed up.
Just note.
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Post by preachertoo on Oct 18, 2014 22:41:49 GMT -6
Chandler Worthy showed up. Just note. Yes he did! He was the only person player or coach I saw say anything to silvers after he was out.
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Post by cornhole on Oct 18, 2014 22:46:23 GMT -6
Chandler Worthy showed up. Just note. Yes he did! He was the only person player or coach I saw say anything to silvers after he was out. Very worthy young man, ...... ....... what more to say.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 18, 2014 23:35:07 GMT -6
Yes he did! He was the only person player or coach I saw say anything to silvers after he was out. Very worthy young man, ...... ....... what more to say. Is he a senior?
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 19, 2014 1:31:00 GMT -6
Is there any doubt why CLB will not be the coach next year?
This is so sad that all indications point to the players don't even want this staff leading them, even tomorrow.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 19, 2014 5:34:49 GMT -6
Pathetic performance in every way. Worthy showed up but our defense with the exception of Roberts laid over and quit
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Post by tutrojan on Oct 19, 2014 7:29:28 GMT -6
2. Did anyone else see Trey Hall #3 on defense and CLB get into it in the 4th. LB clearly was upset and 3 clearly was having none of it. After it was over 3 walks away shaking his head like, "I don't have to put up with all this crap." He gets with other players they all start shaking their heads and show negative body language. #3 would have basically been on my bench in the 1st quarter for flat out refusing to tackle the receiver on that first TD...
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Post by Spiritual Trojan on Oct 19, 2014 7:52:27 GMT -6
2. Did anyone else see Trey Hall #3 on defense and CLB get into it in the 4th. LB clearly was upset and 3 clearly was having none of it. After it was over 3 walks away shaking his head like, "I don't have to put up with all this crap." He gets with other players they all start shaking their heads and show negative body language. #3 would have basically been on my bench in the 1st quarter for flat out refusing to tackle the receiver on that first TD... This is a problem I've seen all season, just plain stupid stuff done by the by players then when the coaches get on to them the either ignore them or argue back then go right back out. They never get benched the coaches just let them walk away and then put them back out the next series.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 19, 2014 7:56:39 GMT -6
No discipline, players running the show, players doing what they want, this has been a problem for the last 4 Yeats and our AD and Chancellor have turned a blind eye to this. We are beyond hopeless right now. No discipline, no coaching, no effort, no recruiting, no fans in the stands, no student support (I don't blame them) and we will wait to Dec to announce a new coach? We are worse than North Texas ever was right now. I blame our administration for this and while we are at it can someone take Blakeneys name off the field we are 15-28 since that boneheaded decision was made
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Post by Troystet on Oct 19, 2014 7:59:27 GMT -6
#3 would have basically been on my bench in the 1st quarter for flat out refusing to tackle the receiver on that first TD... This is a problem I've seen all season, just plain stupid stuff done by the by players then when the coaches get on to them the either ignore them or argue back then go right back out. They never get benched the coaches just let them walk away and then put them back out the next series. Players go juco for a reason usually. Couple that with coaches with no balls and you get what you see on the field
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Oct 19, 2014 9:22:55 GMT -6
Maybe if the players would quit going to the Front Porch all the time, which there are apparently many of them that like to get drunk there a lot including one certain QB, then it would probably be a step in the right direction. How can you expect players to play well when they aren't staying healthy and possibly are having hangovers? There is absolutely no discipline on this team and it's pathetic. This coaching staff better be wiped clean so Troy can bring in some coaches with a set of balls to tell the players how things are going to work when playing Troy football.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Oct 19, 2014 9:26:58 GMT -6
Pathetic performance in every way. Worthy showed up but our defense with the exception of Roberts laid over and quit "Quit"? That really not strong enough word for what happen yesterday. Mr. Ho could coach Fraternity All-Star team that play better defense.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 19, 2014 9:51:20 GMT -6
Maybe if the players would quit going to the Front Porch all the time, which there are apparently many of them that like to get drunk there a lot including one certain QB, then it would probably be a step in the right direction. How can you expect players to play well when they aren't staying healthy and possibly are having hangovers? There is absolutely no discipline on this team and it's pathetic. This coaching staff better be wiped clean so Troy can bring in some coaches with a set of balls to tell the players how things are going to work when playing Troy football. Ok did you see them? Here say, second hand info. Let it begin. Every time player problems get brought up this is what will be said
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Post by Hemi Man on Oct 19, 2014 10:19:11 GMT -6
Maybe if the players would quit going to the Front Porch all the time, which there are apparently many of them that like to get drunk there a lot including one certain QB, then it would probably be a step in the right direction. How can you expect players to play well when they aren't staying healthy and possibly are having hangovers? There is absolutely no discipline on this team and it's pathetic. This coaching staff better be wiped clean so Troy can bring in some coaches with a set of balls to tell the players how things are going to work when playing Troy football. Maybe if the players would quit going to the Front Porch all the time, which there are apparently many of them that like to get drunk there a lot including one certain QB, then it would probably be a step in the right direction. How can you expect players to play well when they aren't staying healthy and possibly are having hangovers? There is absolutely no discipline on this team and it's pathetic. This coaching staff better be wiped clean so Troy can bring in some coaches with a set of balls to tell the players how things are going to work when playing Troy football. Ok did you see them? Here say, second hand info. Let it begin. Every time player problems get brought up this is what will be said Yes yes yes. Because the Front Porch opened four years ago, and we never had a player drink alcohol before the 2011 season. It's amusing how some come on here and cry wolf, but we're extremely quiet about incidents during the 06-10 seasons. I guess winning does cure all.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 19, 2014 10:25:12 GMT -6
So it ok then? Got it. This is something people have been hearing since 2011. We lost positive leaders like Bear, Levi, Clark, Hampton etc. maybe those guys steped up and said knock it off. Porch was there when I played, but we weren't there during the season? Coaches wouldn't put up with it and we had a little thing called a curfew to and it was 11 pm during the season. Point is this team does not fear the coaches or you wouldn't see this crap on the sidelines. You don't see a player pull that crap with Saban do you?
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Post by Redwaver on Oct 19, 2014 11:27:16 GMT -6
Is there any doubt why CLB will not be the coach next year? This is so sad that all indications point to the players don't even want this staff leading them, even tomorrow. When you have situations like this you don't know who is to blame. My thought us IF it's players causing desention , bench them or remove their scholarship after this year. If it's coaches they need to be gone. I have trouble after all these years that such negative attitudes began with LB or the staff. Maybe players are rebelling against something coaches are demanding thst they disagree with internally and that's s receipt for disaster......which we now have. Players CAN be the root of such conditions, all you have to do is remember the Grambling fiasco. No matter, it needs fixin' NOW! I guess I was surprised at LB's radio interview after the game yesterday. Something has to change. Don't know what I wanted to hear him say but he didn't say it!
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Post by Hemi Man on Oct 19, 2014 11:32:17 GMT -6
So it ok then? Got it. This is something people have been hearing since 2011. We lost positive leaders like Bear, Levi, Clark, Hampton etc. maybe those guys steped up and said knock it off. Porch was there when I played, but we weren't there during the season? Coaches wouldn't put up with it and we had a little thing called a curfew to and it was 11 pm during the season. Point is this team does not fear the coaches or you wouldn't see this crap on the sidelines. You don't see a player pull that crap with Saban do you? Yes it's ok for people of a legal age to consume alcohol. These incidents didn't just start happening in 11. They happen at every university, every year. Our problems aren't that simple to fix.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 19, 2014 11:45:21 GMT -6
Except not all of them are legal age but I will agree it's not our only problem, were up to our neck in a sewer of problems right now and I hope the new coach has the chahonies to do what needs to be done
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Post by cornhole on Oct 19, 2014 11:50:50 GMT -6
Is there any doubt why CLB will not be the coach next year? This is so sad that all indications point to the players don't even want this staff leading them, even tomorrow. When you have situations like this you don't know who is to blame. My thought us IF it's players causing desention , bench them or remove their scholarship after this year. If it's coaches they need to be gone. I have trouble after all these years that such negative attitudes began with LB or the staff. Maybe players are rebelling against something coaches are demanding thst they disagree with internally and that's s receipt for disaster......which we now have. Players CAN be the root of such conditions, all you have to do is remember the Grambling fiasco. No matter, it needs fixin' NOW! I guess I was surprised at LB's radio interview after the game yesterday. Something has to change. Don't know what I wanted to hear him say but he didn't say it! "It" starts at the top, it stops at the top. The buck stops there..........Organizational MGT 101.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Oct 19, 2014 11:53:44 GMT -6
Except not all of them are legal age but I will agree it's not our only problem, were up to our neck in a sewer of problems right now and I hope the new coach has the cojones to do what needs to be done You've been making gonad references all day...what's up with that?
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Post by jagd1305 on Oct 19, 2014 11:56:48 GMT -6
The scenario that is currently playing out on the field and in the stands at Troy has occurred before. It's not a new phenomenon. Bad years have visited us before. We already know that CLB and company will exit stage right after the season. A number of players will do the same. I'm glad I wasn't present for yesterday's game. I've seen that here before. I will still attend what's left for our home season. I owe Larry that and will appreciate the man for what he once did for our program. I will also watch what will probably be some very bad ball play on our team's behalf and feel confident that it will soon be hopefully a long time before I see that again. It is simply the reality of what we have for right now. That reality will end soon enough and another will occur. So I hope for the best. I'll be in the stands again, wearing Troy gear just like I did in Tuscaloosa yesterday.
Go Trojans!
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Post by Redwaver on Oct 19, 2014 11:57:13 GMT -6
Maybe if the players would quit going to the Front Porch all the time, which there are apparently many of them that like to get drunk there a lot including one certain QB, then it would probably be a step in the right direction. How can you expect players to play well when they aren't staying healthy and possibly are having hangovers? There is absolutely no discipline on this team and it's pathetic. This coaching staff better be wiped clean so Troy can bring in some coaches with a set of balls to tell the players how things are going to work when playing Troy football. Ok did you see them? Here say, second hand info. Let it begin. Every time player problems get brought up this is what will be said [ Ok, not to disappoint you I'll begin it, it's just flat wrong to accuse someone of something unless you have proof ("Maybe if the players (plural includes all of them) would quit going to the Front Poarch all the time......many of them like to get drunk including one particular QB...."). IF YOU HAVE PROOF then tell the appropriate people for action then you can nail them (the coaches or AD) if they don't do their responsibilities. Which QB? Should us readers assume it's all of them, there are 5 you know? It's just unfair to color everyone with the same crayon and you do that when you generalize. I know I would be ticked if a fan implied I did something like being drunk when I was completely innocent. This year is a disaster, everyone knows that and everyone shares the blame to some degree. There are some great kids on this team so be specific or be careful what you say. As to coaches, time will take care of those felt unworthy to remain on staff. Now you can blast me for my opinion. I mean no ill will toward you by my position on this , I know your frustrations and I'm as ticked as you obviously are and everyone else is but I hate seeing things like this and it accomplishes nothing good. If some are going to places such as this and drinking period then something needs doin'!.... but only to those doin' it! Now feel free to nail me back my friend! Go Trojans!
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