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Post by trojanocean on Oct 15, 2024 19:05:41 GMT -6
...how can two, brilliantly shining, winning seasons with buzz and excitement around the program that harkened back to the former glory days leave Troy so pathetically anemic and young with the cupboard bare of talent. How can you not have better recruitment of players during that environment?
Did Sumrall just absolutely abandon his responsibilities to recruit?
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Post by trojannation on Oct 15, 2024 19:08:19 GMT -6
When you don’t have a coaching staff it makes a difference.
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Post by crawlspace13 on Oct 15, 2024 19:15:48 GMT -6
Talent isn't the problem.
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Post by gator8 on Oct 15, 2024 19:24:10 GMT -6
Talent isn't the problem. I disagree. We had the perfect storm of successful coach leaves at an era where everyone is trying out this free transfer thing plus putting a couple of guys in the NFL. You can overcome the hiccups of a stark coaching change if you are more talented than the teams you play. Given our injuries and the aforementioned circumstances, that isn’t the case this year.
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Post by fltrojan on Oct 15, 2024 19:26:57 GMT -6
Talent isn't the problem. I disagree. We had the perfect storm of successful coach leaves at an era where everyone is trying out this free transfer thing plus putting a couple of guys in the NFL. You can overcome the hiccups of a stark coaching change if you are more talented than the teams you play. Given our injuries and the aforementioned circumstances, that isn’t the case this year. BS. James Madison had the same scenario and they are 5-1. Difference is they hired a proven HC
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Post by troybigmouth on Oct 15, 2024 19:30:22 GMT -6
I disagree. We had the perfect storm of successful coach leaves at an era where everyone is trying out this free transfer thing plus putting a couple of guys in the NFL. You can overcome the hiccups of a stark coaching change if you are more talented than the teams you play. Given our injuries and the aforementioned circumstances, that isn’t the case this year. BS. James Madison had the same scenario and they are 5-1. Difference is they hired a proven HC Exactly right,Troy made the cheapest hire possible and it shows.I am not gonna lie and say I know who should have been hired,but I definitely know who shouldn’t have been hired.
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Post by gator8 on Oct 15, 2024 19:41:38 GMT -6
I disagree. We had the perfect storm of successful coach leaves at an era where everyone is trying out this free transfer thing plus putting a couple of guys in the NFL. You can overcome the hiccups of a stark coaching change if you are more talented than the teams you play. Given our injuries and the aforementioned circumstances, that isn’t the case this year. BS. James Madison had the same scenario and they are 5-1. Difference is they hired a proven HC Compare money on top of the things I mentioned and talk to me later And before you say it’s another excuse, it’s just reality. For this season at least.
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Post by fltrojan on Oct 15, 2024 19:44:26 GMT -6
BS. James Madison had the same scenario and they are 5-1. Difference is they hired a proven HC Compare money on top of the things I mentioned and talk to me later And before you say it’s another excuse, it’s just reality. For this season at least. JMU HC base salary is $550,000. What are we paying Mr Notre Dame
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Post by gator8 on Oct 15, 2024 19:48:07 GMT -6
If you think that’s the salary/money figure that matters most now, you haven’t been paying attention.
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Post by crawlspace13 on Oct 15, 2024 19:58:08 GMT -6
Talent isn't the problem. I disagree. We had the perfect storm of successful coach leaves at an era where everyone is trying out this free transfer thing plus putting a couple of guys in the NFL. You can overcome the hiccups of a stark coaching change if you are more talented than the teams you play. Given our injuries and the aforementioned circumstances, that isn’t the case this year. It's not the same talent, but we aren't bereft. Better, more experienced coaches could field a team that looks like they know how to play football.
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Post by troyfan on Oct 15, 2024 20:05:33 GMT -6
So who were the coaching candidates that actually interviewed? Does anyone really know?
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Post by fltrojan on Oct 15, 2024 20:08:24 GMT -6
So who were the coaching candidates that actually interviewed? Does anyone really know? It's buried somewhere in one of Janice's parks
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Oct 15, 2024 20:09:40 GMT -6
It was alarming to me when Parker said last week that he had to 'learn' about the significance of the Battle for the Belt rivalry.
That showed me that he applied for the Troy job without even knowing much about Troy, except for what he probably Googled when Brent Jones called him up to interview him.
Troy has the worst offense in the entire nation, and it's probably not even close.
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Post by trojanmatt on Oct 15, 2024 21:00:01 GMT -6
HCJS said he had a 5 year plan for Troy. I don’t blame him for leaving for more money but alot of this is on him! He took players and endorsed this hire! I believe we have talent but I worry about who is going to want to come to Troy next year when we look this bad!
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Post by Hemi Man on Oct 15, 2024 21:56:48 GMT -6
Talent isn't the problem. lol. Offensive line is so depleted it’s not even funny.
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Post by crawlspace13 on Oct 16, 2024 3:14:03 GMT -6
Talent isn't the problem. lol. Offensive line is so depleted it’s not even funny. Yes, they are. No one said they weren't. Some people keep implying or flat out saying the entire roster is talentless and can't play football and we don't have a single coachable player. That isn't the same thing as missing some key players.
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Post by pctrojan16 on Oct 16, 2024 6:53:09 GMT -6
Talent isn't the problem. lol. Offensive line is so depleted it’s not even funny. All of this.. Bad snaps with multiple centers, can not pass block. Its bad
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Post by buzzlightyear on Oct 16, 2024 7:24:27 GMT -6
I disagree. We had the perfect storm of successful coach leaves at an era where everyone is trying out this free transfer thing plus putting a couple of guys in the NFL. You can overcome the hiccups of a stark coaching change if you are more talented than the teams you play. Given our injuries and the aforementioned circumstances, that isn’t the case this year. BS. James Madison had the same scenario and they are 5-1. Difference is they hired a proven HC Nothing is exactly the same. Goose and Ethan out alone has seriously cost us. We were thin to begin with this year. James Madison is doing better that is a given. A couple of plays and a lack of those two being hurt and we are around 4-3 to 3-4. Not great but better than what are record actually is to date. By the way 2 years of Middle School, 4 in High School, 4 in college and then all the years as a fan I too have never been around or supported a 1-11 team. So, here is to 3-9 or dare I dream to 4-8 as a goal. Wow, that almost sounds depressive in and of itself. That would mean at least 2-3 or a 3-2 finishing out which is improvement.
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