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Post by band100 on Oct 14, 2024 12:26:40 GMT -6
What does that say about our team that the spread is that big against a 2-4 USA team? Does anyone see any chance we can pull off a win in this game tomorrow night? How many wins do we need to get this season to make you feel comfortable about this teams direction moving forward after this season?
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 14, 2024 12:47:53 GMT -6
What does that say about our team that the spread is that big against a 2-4 USA team? Does anyone see any chance we can pull off a win in this game tomorrow night? How many wins do we need to get this season to make you feel comfortable about this teams direction moving forward after this season? At this point,Finish 6-6, get into and win bowl game would show GP can get off the mat, has pride and gumption to respect a 2nd year. It tells you the people that manage billions of dollars in and on the industry of college football believes Troy stinks. And yes they can be wrong, so there is always a chance to win tomorrow night, as long as you suit up and show up.
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 14, 2024 12:53:03 GMT -6
I will be placing a MoneyLine bet on my Troy Trojans to win. If ya going to play, roll the dice.
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Post by Troy_Fan_15 on Oct 14, 2024 13:07:09 GMT -6
Don't care what our record is or there's, I will never choose UWF-Mobile to beat us. EVER.
Troy 21 (/) 9.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Oct 14, 2024 13:42:58 GMT -6
What does that say about our team that the spread is that big against a 2-4 USA team? Does anyone see any chance we can pull off a win in this game tomorrow night? How many wins do we need to get this season to make you feel comfortable about this teams direction moving forward after this season? It says that the people who set the odds (Vegas odds makers, maybe?) believe that 12.5 pts is the point that will come closest to driving bets of equal money on both sides. This isn't about who some odd setting gambler believes will win as much as it is how he feels the gambling public sees the game. The bookie's income comes from the commission he makes on the bets, and all he wanst to do is drive the money to the game and break even on the bets that are placed. If you want to see a smaller spread, lay a boat load of money on TROY and the spread will narrow in an effort to get more money placed on South. Nothing will have changed with the teams, or with the ability of one team to out play the other, it's just that the money has to balance out in the end.
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 14, 2024 14:13:15 GMT -6
What does that say about our team that the spread is that big against a 2-4 USA team? Does anyone see any chance we can pull off a win in this game tomorrow night? How many wins do we need to get this season to make you feel comfortable about this teams direction moving forward after this season? It says that the people who set the odds (Vegas odds makers, maybe?) believe that 12.5 pts is the point that will come closest to driving bets of equal money on both sides. This isn't about who some odd setting gambler believes will win as much as it is how he feels the gambling public sees the game. The bookie's income comes from the commission he makes on the bets, and all he wanst to do is drive the money to the game and break even on the bets that are placed. If you want to see a smaller spread, lay a boat load of money on TROY and the spread will narrow in an effort to get more money placed on South. Nothing will have changed with the teams, or with the ability of one team to out play the other, it's just that the money has to balance out in the end. Unfortunately this is something that I know a lot about. What you state has a framework of definitive truth to it but is not accurate in the belief of what line reflects in who the better team is. The line has to be close to that belief of who is better because as you say you can beat a lot on one side and move the line. But if it moves a lot the other side will absolutely be hammered in opposite bets. Trust they don’t want a side to be heavy on one side. If they truly get 50/50 split on both sides then there would be agreement that USA is the better team, on the initial line. They make billions, and majority of the time the line does indeed dictate who is better.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Oct 14, 2024 14:39:03 GMT -6
It says that the people who set the odds (Vegas odds makers, maybe?) believe that 12.5 pts is the point that will come closest to driving bets of equal money on both sides. This isn't about who some odd setting gambler believes will win as much as it is how he feels the gambling public sees the game. The bookie's income comes from the commission he makes on the bets, and all he wanst to do is drive the money to the game and break even on the bets that are placed. If you want to see a smaller spread, lay a boat load of money on TROY and the spread will narrow in an effort to get more money placed on South. Nothing will have changed with the teams, or with the ability of one team to out play the other, it's just that the money has to balance out in the end. Unfortunately this is something that I know a lot about. What you state has a framework of definitive truth to it but is not accurate in the belief of what line reflects in who the better team is. The line has to be close to that belief of who is better because as you say you can beat a lot on one side and move the line. But if it moves a lot the other side will absolutely be hammered in opposite bets. Trust they don’t want a side to be heavy on one side. If they truly get 50/50 split on both sides then there would be agreement that USA is the better team, on the initial line. They make billions, and majority of the time the line does indeed dictate who is better. I agree with that. Yes, the initial spread reflects who is expected to win and yes, it has to reflect a reasonable expectation of the final outcome. A spread of 12.5 as opposed to, say, 10.5 or 13.5 is more an attempt to take the pulse of the betting public. It’s not a prediction as much as a reasonable starting point to trigger betting action. That’s all I was saying.
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 14, 2024 14:47:29 GMT -6
Unfortunately this is something that I know a lot about. What you state has a framework of definitive truth to it but is not accurate in the belief of what line reflects in who the better team is. The line has to be close to that belief of who is better because as you say you can beat a lot on one side and move the line. But if it moves a lot the other side will absolutely be hammered in opposite bets. Trust they don’t want a side to be heavy on one side. If they truly get 50/50 split on both sides then there would be agreement that USA is the better team, on the initial line. They make billions, and majority of the time the line does indeed dictate who is better. I agree with that. Yes, the initial spread reflects who is expected to win and yes, it has to reflect a reasonable expectation of the final outcome. A spread of 12.5 as opposed to, say, 10.5 or 13.5 is more an attempt to take the pulse of the betting public. It’s not a prediction as much as a reasonable starting point to trigger betting action. That’s all I was saying. Fair enough and 👍🏻 It always amazes me how so many millions can be bet on these games and the majority of the time the initial line only moves slightly. With so much data, AI and learned experience, they get close. But won’t stop me from betting the longer odds money line for a Troy win.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Oct 14, 2024 16:15:23 GMT -6
12.5 dogs. Well, that will make a victory all the sweeter! The aspirations and dreams may not be what they once were but what is possible unburdened by what has been gives great joy to my and everyone’s hopes, dreams and aspirations for those who dare to dream of what can be!!!
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Post by buzzlightyear on Oct 14, 2024 16:18:13 GMT -6
I’ve been watching rallies and am inspired by what can be for Troy!
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Post by buzzlightyear on Oct 14, 2024 16:21:09 GMT -6
Our (Troy’s) values have not changed!
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Post by buzzlightyear on Oct 15, 2024 6:44:52 GMT -6
TBB Where’s The Dogs of war for game day!
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Post by band100 on Oct 15, 2024 9:20:03 GMT -6
What is the team culture like? Culture is — it is a reflection of our moment in our time, right? And in present culture is the way we express how we’re feeling about the moment.
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