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Post by buzzlightyear on May 19, 2022 16:19:03 GMT -6
Even if a guy with his pedigree was assured of a good shot at being able to play if not start it was his choice. He sees a conference that is football happy South. East. A very impressive young new coach and most importantly to him he sees a guy that is current number one who basically is vulnerable to a guy with his talent. Put that with the fact one would have to be a non-involved football person to NOT know McCall is getting a lot of pub in The SBC. So, size of conference is not a detriment to any future plans and the talent level in the conference is getting better all the time. This makes any detriment to playing in THIS G5 conference really not an issue either. Pros vs Coms of Troy versus other team offering was to him obvious (and of course us as well)
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on May 19, 2022 17:03:36 GMT -6
He seems like another Malik Willis to me.
Willis was a 4-star dual threat QB, never got his fair chance to play at Auburn. Likely would've never gotten to start.
Willis transfers to Liberty, sets the world on fire, takes them to a Top 25 ranking, and gets drafted in the 3rd Round.
Costelli could have a similar story.
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Post by troytrojans2012 on May 19, 2022 17:34:46 GMT -6
I think it’s become quite obvious that you don’t have to go to a P5 blue blood to play QB in the NFL. Peter has every single physical tool of an NFL QB. Let’s hope he develops the rest of his game here at Troy. Will be fun to watch.
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Post by TroyFootball05 on May 19, 2022 17:43:34 GMT -6
I think it’s become quite obvious that you don’t have to go to a P5 blue blood to play QB in the NFL. Peter has every single physical tool of an NFL QB. Let’s hope he develops the rest of his game here at Troy. Will be fun to watch. You got any more of them presents? *rubs hands from behind tree*
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Post by cornhole on May 19, 2022 18:12:16 GMT -6
He seems like another Malik Willis to me. Willis was a 4-star dual threat QB, never got his fair chance to play at Auburn. Likely would've never gotten to start. Willis transfers to Liberty, sets the world on fire, takes them to a Top 25 ranking, and gets drafted in the 3rd Round. Costelli could have a similar story. Exactly. _ _ _ _ _ transfers to Troy with 3+ years of eligibility. Sets the world on Fire year(s) 1 or/and 2, transfers to a P-5 school. wins the _ _ _ _ Conference and gets a hugely contract in the NFL. Just difficult to get excited about any of this these days. Anyways, we get at least a year's look at the fella.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on May 19, 2022 20:23:49 GMT -6
He seems like another Malik Willis to me. Willis was a 4-star dual threat QB, never got his fair chance to play at Auburn. Likely would've never gotten to start. Willis transfers to Liberty, sets the world on fire, takes them to a Top 25 ranking, and gets drafted in the 3rd Round. Costelli could have a similar story. Exactly. _ _ _ _ _ transfers to Troy with 3+ years of eligibility. Sets the world on Fire year(s) 1 or/and 2, transfers to a P-5 school. wins the _ _ _ _ Conference and gets a hugely contract in the NFL. Just difficult to get excited about any of this these days. Anyways, we get at least a year's look at the fella. It’s better than a Last Chance U situation where a kid has to pay his own way. Those players go thousands into debt.
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Post by troydadfl on May 19, 2022 20:25:27 GMT -6
Solid pick up, but he still has to win the job and perform. Fall camp is going to be exciting I think he's got more tools than Gunnar right off the bat. Gunnar has experience though. One thing is for sure, you could tell Sumrall wasn't totally pleased with the spring QB play. This Costelli kid left Utah so he could play, and he had some P5 offers on the table... And picked Troy... seems like Sumrall probably liked what he saw and told him he had a good chance to start. Yes Gunner has experience with Troy, however I believe in my opinion this young man is more advance overall than Gunner,, he certainly is QB1
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on May 19, 2022 21:54:51 GMT -6
I think he's got more tools than Gunnar right off the bat. Gunnar has experience though. One thing is for sure, you could tell Sumrall wasn't totally pleased with the spring QB play. This Costelli kid left Utah so he could play, and he had some P5 offers on the table... And picked Troy... seems like Sumrall probably liked what he saw and told him he had a good chance to start. Yes Gunner has experience with Troy, however I believe in my opinion this young man is more advance overall than Gunner,, he certainly is QB1 Oh, no doubt. Costelli's throwing mechanics are much more fine tuned, plus he's much more athletic.
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Post by buzzlightyear on May 20, 2022 5:25:07 GMT -6
Heart and grit. Two intangibles that make a big difference will be measured in camp and when the season starts. Then we will know.
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Post by AUGTrojan on May 20, 2022 5:45:33 GMT -6
His tape is far and away better than TPs tape. This dude steps into his throws. Fleet of feet if I read right too. I liked Powell, the person. But man we could have won a few more games if we had started Gunnar sooner. I couldn't have said it better myself. Both the Liberty and USCjr games were winnable games late.
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Post by Troystet on May 20, 2022 7:02:10 GMT -6
Exactly. _ _ _ _ _ transfers to Troy with 3+ years of eligibility. Sets the world on Fire year(s) 1 or/and 2, transfers to a P-5 school. wins the _ _ _ _ Conference and gets a hugely contract in the NFL. Just difficult to get excited about any of this these days. Anyways, we get at least a year's look at the fella. It’s better than a Last Chance U situation where a kid has to pay his own way. Those players go thousands into debt. Who cares. They are there because of their own screw ups...grades or discipline. It's like feeling sorry for prison inmates
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Post by saintflorian on May 20, 2022 7:52:43 GMT -6
For every 4 star QB that pans out and starts and WINS for a FBS team there are a lot more 4 star QB that flame out or never even see the field in the FBS.
I say that to say that I never get (too) excited about all the recruiting rankings. You got to see it on the field. But also, is this cat worth the risk, scholarship and chance ? Absolutely ! I hope we truly balls out and wins championships. Let’s wait and see.
Remember, the best or one of the best LB, players and humans Troy has or will ever have was an invited walk-on. Ole #2 and we get to witness his heart and play for one more season. Known this kid since high school, he is the real deal.
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Post by cornhole on May 20, 2022 9:17:20 GMT -6
For every 4 star QB that pans out and starts and WINS for a FBS team there are a lot more 4 star QB that flame out or never even see the field in the FBS. I say that to say that I never get (too) excited about all the recruiting rankings. You got to see it on the field. But also, is this cat worth the risk, scholarship and chance ? Absolutely ! I hope we truly balls out and wins championships. Let’s wait and see. Remember, the best or one of the best LB, players and humans Troy has or will ever have was an invited walk-on. Ole #2 and we get to witness his heart and play for one more season. Known this kid since high school, he is the real deal. ^^^ This.
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Post by trojan2003 on May 20, 2022 9:31:52 GMT -6
For every 4 star QB that pans out and starts and WINS for a FBS team there are a lot more 4 star QB that flame out or never even see the field in the FBS. I say that to say that I never get (too) excited about all the recruiting rankings. You got to see it on the field. But also, is this cat worth the risk, scholarship and chance ? Absolutely ! I hope we truly balls out and wins championships. Let’s wait and see. Remember, the best or one of the best LB, players and humans Troy has or will ever have was an invited walk-on. Ole #2 and we get to witness his heart and play for one more season. Known this kid since high school, he is the real deal. People always remember that walk-on story who made it to the league, because it’s a feel-good story. However, statistically 5-stars and 4-stars are much more likely to get drafted. There is a reason why UGA had 5 first round draft picks this year.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on May 20, 2022 10:10:47 GMT -6
It’s better than a Last Chance U situation where a kid has to pay his own way. Those players go thousands into debt. Who cares. They are there because of their own screw ups...grades or discipline. It's like feeling sorry for prison inmates I'm just pointing out that these days, you can transfer to another scholarship school instead of going the JC route.... providing you are not a problem case.
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Post by Troystet on May 20, 2022 12:28:00 GMT -6
For every 4 star QB that pans out and starts and WINS for a FBS team there are a lot more 4 star QB that flame out or never even see the field in the FBS. I say that to say that I never get (too) excited about all the recruiting rankings. You got to see it on the field. But also, is this cat worth the risk, scholarship and chance ? Absolutely ! I hope we truly balls out and wins championships. Let’s wait and see. Remember, the best or one of the best LB, players and humans Troy has or will ever have was an invited walk-on. Ole #2 and we get to witness his heart and play for one more season. Known this kid since high school, he is the real deal. People always remember that walk-on story who made it to the league, because it’s a feel-good story. However, statistically 5-stars and 4-stars are much more likely to get drafted. There is a reason why UGA had 5 first round draft picks this year. Partially true. UGA also recruited well and coached them up plus these guys played on a winner. 5 star and 4 star if they play well can get drafted but that also bodes for the no star to 3 star. 2022 NFL Draft First Round by picks and star rating out of high school (non 4-5 star) #4 3 star #6 3 star #11 3 star #17 no star #19 no star #20 3 star #24 2 star #25 3 star #26 2 star #27 2 star #28 3 star #29 2 star
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Post by foulpolephenom on May 20, 2022 15:57:38 GMT -6
People always remember that walk-on story who made it to the league, because it’s a feel-good story. However, statistically 5-stars and 4-stars are much more likely to get drafted. There is a reason why UGA had 5 first round draft picks this year. Partially true. UGA also recruited well and coached them up plus these guys played on a winner. 5 star and 4 star if they play well can get drafted but that also bodes for the no star to 3 star. 2022 NFL Draft First Round by picks and star rating out of high school (non 4-5 star) #4 3 star #6 3 star #11 3 star #17 no star #19 no star #20 3 star #24 2 star #25 3 star #26 2 star #27 2 star #28 3 star #29 2 star So what you’re saying is the majority were 4 and 5 stars. There are a lot more 3 and 2 stars out there so yes they will get drafted but they best generally tend to be the top stars. Especially with the year round evaluations these days.
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Post by TroyFootball05 on May 20, 2022 17:10:22 GMT -6
People always remember that walk-on story who made it to the league, because it’s a feel-good story. However, statistically 5-stars and 4-stars are much more likely to get drafted. There is a reason why UGA had 5 first round draft picks this year. Partially true. UGA also recruited well and coached them up plus these guys played on a winner. 5 star and 4 star if they play well can get drafted but that also bodes for the no star to 3 star. 2022 NFL Draft First Round by picks and star rating out of high school (non 4-5 star) #4 3 star #6 3 star #11 3 star #17 no star #19 no star #20 3 star #24 2 star #25 3 star #26 2 star #27 2 star #28 3 star #29 2 star
From sbnation
The NCAA said in 2013 there were 310,000-some seniors playing football. Here’s how long their odds are to reach various recruiting ratings, using class of 2018 data from Rivals, if we settle on 300,000 football-playing seniors as a fair estimate. 30 five-stars, or 0.01 percent of the class 380 four-stars, or 0.13 percent of the class 1,328 three-stars, or 0.44 percent of the class 1,859 two-stars, or 0.62 percent of the class 296,403 unrated, or 98.88 percent of the class
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Post by trojan2003 on May 20, 2022 21:41:01 GMT -6
What about $ then?
According to an academic study (Borghesi, 2017):
On avg, 5-star players generate $2.5m per season ($1.2 revenues + $1.3m in donations), 4-star players generate $0.8m total revenue per season while 3-star players generate $0.1m on avg per season.
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Post by ksdtrojan on May 21, 2022 3:14:39 GMT -6
Yes Gunner has experience with Troy, however I believe in my opinion this young man is more advance overall than Gunner,, he certainly is QB1 Oh, no doubt. Costelli's throwing mechanics are much more fine tuned, plus he's much more athletic. That arm whip when he throws is a thing of beauty.
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Post by trojanmatt on May 21, 2022 7:03:32 GMT -6
I’m excited to have this quality of player coming to Troy and I hope it translates to Ws. I but I’m most excited about his deility for our new head coach to recognize a need and go out and get it!
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Post by Troystet on May 21, 2022 7:06:44 GMT -6
Partially true. UGA also recruited well and coached them up plus these guys played on a winner. 5 star and 4 star if they play well can get drafted but that also bodes for the no star to 3 star. 2022 NFL Draft First Round by picks and star rating out of high school (non 4-5 star) #4 3 star #6 3 star #11 3 star #17 no star #19 no star #20 3 star #24 2 star #25 3 star #26 2 star #27 2 star #28 3 star #29 2 star So what you’re saying is the majority were 4 and 5 stars. There are a lot more 3 and 2 stars out there so yes they will get drafted but they best generally tend to be the top stars. Especially with the year round evaluations these days. Point was that just being a 4-5 star doesn't mean you are a lock you get drafted or even be a success once drafted. A draft once had Trent Dilfer as the best qb in the draft that year. The QB who ended up being the best in that class and a HOF and Super Bowl winner not only wasn't drafted, he was cut the first day by the team he signed with as a free agent.
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Post by Troystet on May 21, 2022 7:13:31 GMT -6
What about $ then? According to an academic study (Borghesi, 2017): On avg, 5-star players generate $2.5m per season ($1.2 revenues + $1.3m in donations), 4-star players generate $0.8m total revenue per season while 3-star players generate $0.1m on avg per season. And how do they come up with this scenario. Football is a team sport so say Ohio St takes in the most $$ of any program (Hypothetical). The roster has 5 stars to 3 stars. So they only take in $$$ because the qb is a 5 star? but not because a 3 star OL or walk on OL blocks for him?
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Post by foulpolephenom on May 21, 2022 10:59:27 GMT -6
So what you’re saying is the majority were 4 and 5 stars. There are a lot more 3 and 2 stars out there so yes they will get drafted but they best generally tend to be the top stars. Especially with the year round evaluations these days. Point was that just being a 4-5 star doesn't mean you are a lock you get drafted or even be a success once drafted. A draft once had Trent Dilfer as the best qb in the draft that year. The QB who ended up being the best in that class and a HOF and Super Bowl winner not only wasn't drafted, he was cut the first day by the team he signed with as a free agent. Trent Dilfer also won a SB
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Post by Troystet on May 21, 2022 11:32:33 GMT -6
Point was that just being a 4-5 star doesn't mean you are a lock you get drafted or even be a success once drafted. A draft once had Trent Dilfer as the best qb in the draft that year. The QB who ended up being the best in that class and a HOF and Super Bowl winner not only wasn't drafted, he was cut the first day by the team he signed with as a free agent. Trent Dilfer also won a SB And was rated the worst qb to win a Super Bowl. Kurt Warner is in Canton
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