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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Dec 23, 2020 17:20:32 GMT -6
Our board has a pretty limited viewership and pales into views on other social media sites that have been openly posted. I was asked about our coach today by one of my colleagues. He is an Auburn fan and got it from that angle. I am just pretty sure that this will not just go away. But I am going to make a deal with the board. I will not post anymore on the open forum about this. I may post something in the Trojan Warrior section if I have questions. I just simply wish someone would end the rumors by some statement of some type. Because even if I and others stop posting here this is not going away on its own. You are right on all points. I too will not post anything else in the public section of this board about this, unless and until a resolution occurs.
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 23, 2020 18:14:43 GMT -6
Since all of this is being discussed about rumors, I think people are being very wise not to share them on a message board. So to review: We don't know what the rumors are, we don't know if there is any truth to any of it, we don't know how big or how far it has spread, and we can't find any documentation. But yet we're going to demand Troy address allegation that even we don't know about? And folks are going to continue to promote what amounts to slander. Minimum of 7 states currently.
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Post by jonesoxygen on Dec 23, 2020 18:20:15 GMT -6
Since all of this is being discussed about rumors, I think people are being very wise not to share them on a message board. So to review: We don't know what the rumors are, we don't know if there is any truth to any of it. I’m thinking the majority of the people here know what the rumors are. I agree we don’t know if there is any truth to one of them or all of them. Hemi had me beat, I’ve only heard from 5 states.
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Post by Possum on Dec 23, 2020 18:24:15 GMT -6
Fire the bum, get him the hell out of Pike County with the rest of his staff.
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Post by trojans09 on Dec 23, 2020 19:27:28 GMT -6
Fire him for his on field performance (or lack there of). Pay him the buyout. Get someone who wants to be in Troy and will leave it better than they found it. Rumors or not, (The HC we don’t speak of) ainât our guy.
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Dec 23, 2020 20:26:17 GMT -6
Fire him for his on field performance (or lack there of). Pay him the buyout. Get someone who wants to be in Troy and will leave it better than they found it. Rumors or not, (The HC we don’t speak of) ainât our guy. No. If you fire a coach for "cause" then the school doesn't owe him anything. If the school just fires him the coach is owed the remainder of his contract.
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Post by trojans09 on Dec 23, 2020 20:36:44 GMT -6
Fire him for his on field performance (or lack there of). Pay him the buyout. Get someone who wants to be in Troy and will leave it better than they found it. Rumors or not, (The HC we don’t speak of) ainât our guy. No. If you fire a coach for "cause" then the school doesn't owe him anything. If the school just fires him the coach is owed the remainder of his contract. I understand that. If the rumors were true, or so bad that he could be fired for it without paying a him a dime, itâd be done by now (or it should have been done by now). The fact that it hasnât been done means they canât prove it or simply just arenât going to act on it as to not give the program a black eye. Well, we get a black eye based on the down fall of the program the last two years and being 1-7 in our division over two years. Cut our loses and pay him the buyout and send him packing based on wins and losses and that saves face for everyone.
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Post by crowhilltrojan on Dec 23, 2020 20:44:45 GMT -6
Come look at the daily texts and calls I'm getting, it's certainly not dead. Same... Dead, or on some of Jones’ life-sustaining Oxygen, doesn’t make the center of the rumors untrue. It’s the truth.
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Post by crowhilltrojan on Dec 23, 2020 20:50:26 GMT -6
Does anyone have any proof of any impropriety or will members continue to hurl baseless accusations on the board and then look at you cross eyed when you ask for evidence and clarification? Yep. I do. All I need. I’ve not hurled any accusations and I will neither specify or clarify what I know. We’re all big boys and girls here, presumably capable of reading between the lines and figuring things out. What happens next is beyond anything I can control and I’d venture a guess that the same applies to most reading this.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Dec 24, 2020 4:36:07 GMT -6
I want to be upfront here, I have absolutely no idea what's going on.
I have a question though, if I read Larry Eustachy's Wikipedia page would there be any parts that would remind anyone of (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of), besides the fact that he was a college coach?
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 24, 2020 5:46:00 GMT -6
I want to be upfront here, I have absolutely no idea what's going on. I have a question though, if I read Larry Eustachy's Wikipedia page would there be any parts that would remind anyone of (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of), besides the fact that he was a college coach? I see what you did there.... Maybe your referring to this. Hmmmm,,,, From Eustschyâs page âFollowing the 2008â09 season, he returned his $25,000 bonus from the university, saying that after a disappointing season, he did not feel as though he had earned it.â
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Post by trojan2003 on Dec 24, 2020 5:55:18 GMT -6
Rumor and allegations, allegations and rumors. For once can we stop dancing around and actually spit out what this alleged impropriety is? If you're so confident then tell us what (The HC we don’t speak of) is being accused of. If you don't want to post it on these boards because you're worried you may get sued or could be wrong then that in it self should be a red flag. From what I gather some dude called JBoy or the JBoy Show posted a tweet saying (The HC we don’t speak of) could be in some hot water....and no evidence presented. No names, no documents, nothing. Then some posters on here, unhappy with a 5-6 season, jump all over it and start demanding the University address this controversy, again, not saying what the controversy actually is but demand the school make a statement about it. Now, according to my sources, a "disgruntled Troy fan" has messaged Fox 6 in Birmingham to look into it. I will ask, again, what is the allegation? What have you heard? Is there any shred of proof? It's okay to say "I heard that ___, but I haven't seen any evidence to back that up." What makes you think the "rumors" are true? I did some research and it seems to be a legit source. There is also more detailed rumors on Twitter now. However, I am not going to post it here.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 24, 2020 6:00:41 GMT -6
Rumor and allegations, allegations and rumors. For once can we stop dancing around and actually spit out what this alleged impropriety is? If you're so confident then tell us what (The HC we don’t speak of) is being accused of. If you don't want to post it on these boards because you're worried you may get sued or could be wrong then that in it self should be a red flag. From what I gather some dude called JBoy or the JBoy Show posted a tweet saying (The HC we don’t speak of) could be in some hot water....and no evidence presented. No names, no documents, nothing. Then some posters on here, unhappy with a 5-6 season, jump all over it and start demanding the University address this controversy, again, not saying what the controversy actually is but demand the school make a statement about it. Now, according to my sources, a "disgruntled Troy fan" has messaged Fox 6 in Birmingham to look into it. I will ask, again, what is the allegation? What have you heard? Is there any shred of proof? It's okay to say "I heard that ___, but I haven't seen any evidence to back that up." What makes you think the "rumors" are true? Itâs not what one believes, itâs what one can prove. (morality clause) For Uncle Jack and Cousin Brent, itâs what can be proved and mostly about the money at this point. And for some folk, their is always the question IF true, is it something that breaks his contract ? Now your question on evidence: this and as in life it almost always comes down to he said, she said. Pretty sure there is not a video. It will Never 100% 1. They are waiting until January 1st. 2. They are riding it out hoping either he loses or wins BIG and this issue dies with another issue. But for some, he will never be accepted no matter how big he wins. Itâs about the money.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Dec 24, 2020 6:03:59 GMT -6
I want to be upfront here, I have absolutely no idea what's going on. I have a question though, if I read Larry Eustachy's Wikipedia page would there be any parts that would remind anyone of (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of), besides the fact that he was a college coach? I see what you did there.... Maybe your referring to this. Hmmmm,,,, From Eustschyâs page âFollowing the 2008â09 season, he returned his $25,000 bonus from the university, saying that after a disappointing season, he did not feel as though he had earned it.â Yeah, like (The HC we don’t speak of) would do that.
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Post by troyjan95 on Dec 24, 2020 9:09:23 GMT -6
No matter how big he wins? Explain? This guy is not winning and is not going to.
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Post by trojans09 on Dec 24, 2020 10:53:05 GMT -6
How much is his buyout? You’re telling me Jack can’t use some China money or is that earmarked for more statues?
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Post by troyjan95 on Dec 24, 2020 17:24:53 GMT -6
Is it true the buyout goes down after January 1?
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Post by cornhole on Dec 24, 2020 17:30:04 GMT -6
How much is his buyout? You’re telling me Jack can’t use some China money or is that earmarked for more statues? Need more chinese totem pole.
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Post by nohuddle on Dec 28, 2020 14:24:15 GMT -6
(The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) will be retained. Investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Dec 28, 2020 14:34:22 GMT -6
(The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) will be retained. Investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing. (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) will be unfortunately retained. Hawkins coverup investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing.
Fixed it for ya!
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Post by Mark Gainey on Dec 28, 2020 15:12:53 GMT -6
(The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) will be retained. Investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing. Are you stating a fact or opinion?
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Post by billable on Dec 28, 2020 15:13:02 GMT -6
The appearance of impropriety is as serious as impropriety its self when ethics and/or morality are the issues. The public perception of wrong doing are as damaging as the act itself.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 28, 2020 15:34:07 GMT -6
Since this is the (The HC we don’t speak of) rumor thread. Hearing (The HC we don’t speak of) gets year three pending anything crazy coming to light. But ya never know. Things change.... Yea. It Looks like (The HC we don’t speak of) is here year three. Jack and company looking to run out the clock. Unless he wins the Sunbelt. Has the talent to do so. The Saint a Positive Realist. Troy low on funds. CL not technically break contract. Admin let it ride. He gone next year, early. Less damage. Told ya this weeks ago
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Post by crawlspace13 on Dec 28, 2020 15:42:03 GMT -6
Yea. It Looks like (The HC we don’t speak of) is here year three. Jack and company looking to run out the clock. Unless he wins the Sunbelt. Has the talent to do so. The Saint a Positive Realist. Troy low on funds. CL not technically break contract. Admin let it ride. He gone next year, early. Less damage. Told ya this weeks ago Can't blame people for being hopeful. Though if (The HC we don’t speak of) were any kind of real man, he would have resigned at the end of the season. But he's not, so we're stuck with him another year.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 28, 2020 15:43:07 GMT -6
The appearance of impropriety is as serious as impropriety its self when ethics and/or morality are the issues. The public perception of wrong doing are as damaging as the act itself. "Appearance of Impropriety" implies perception of some behavior or act without regard to facts. When facts are applied to contractual arrangements etc. "appearances" and "he said, they saw" innuendo would not hold any water for contractual termination. Three facts that gall me at this time: 1) 5-7 2) 5-6 and last in SB East 3) Troy Football not in any Sunbelt Conversation and contention as SB Conference star rises nationally. Had 1+2+3 achieved any reasonable appearance of success, I doubt any of the aforementioned conversation would exist. One year left to right this ship! GO TROJANS!
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