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Post by trojantke on Dec 17, 2020 12:54:48 GMT -6
On this board, any thread where at least two people don't suggest shuttering the program entirely has to be viewed as a positive one. We may not know what's happening with (The HC we don’t speak of), but gossiping about him has brought as all together. It's a Christmas miracle!
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Post by Troystet on Dec 17, 2020 13:27:56 GMT -6
The more I read this thread the crazier is gets. First (The HC we don’t speak of) will be gone soon, then after signing day, then after year three, now after the holidays. None of us actually know, or at least it appears that way. Lol! I predict (The HC we don’t speak of) either resigns, is let go or coaches the 2021 season
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Post by trojans09 on Dec 17, 2020 13:30:12 GMT -6
The more I read this thread the crazier is gets. First (The HC we don’t speak of) will be gone soon, then after signing day, then after year three, now after the holidays. None of us actually know, or at least it appears that way. Lol! I predict (The HC we don’t speak of) either resigns, is let go or coaches the 2021 season My sources confirm your prediction is spot on.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 17, 2020 13:31:44 GMT -6
The more I read this thread the crazier is gets. First (The HC we don’t speak of) will be gone soon, then after signing day, then after year three, now after the holidays. None of us actually know, or at least it appears that way. Lol! I predict (The HC we don’t speak of) either resigns, is let go or coaches the 2021 season You've covered all the bases there. One outcome or the other your spot on.
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Post by trojanmatt on Dec 17, 2020 15:49:39 GMT -6
I would like to see your prediction exclude the word “ season”. Perhaps it could happen Jan 1 2021 and we can start the new year off with a bang!
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Post by trojans91 on Dec 20, 2020 8:07:58 GMT -6
As in the past, the can continues to be kicked.....(The HC we don’t speak of) returns!
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Post by troyjan95 on Dec 20, 2020 9:06:20 GMT -6
really disappointed to have to watch another year wasted - not sure I buy tickets again - I am tired of this $h!+
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 20, 2020 12:58:08 GMT -6
really disappointed to have to watch another year wasted - not sure I buy tickets again - I am tired of this $h!+ If you have ESPN+, you can watch the games while drinking Bourbon. Plus you can turn it off when some FCS team is kicking our butt.
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Post by troyjan95 on Dec 20, 2020 13:40:11 GMT -6
really disappointed to have to watch another year wasted - not sure I buy tickets again - I am tired of this $h!+ If you have ESPN+, you can watch the games while drinking Bourbon. Plus you can turn it off when some FCS team is kicking our butt. I cancelled ESPN+ since I moved to YoutubeTV - could never get logged in because i could not figure out how to login as Youtube TV was not a provider
Now, probably more me than ESPN+ to be fair. Not the most tech savvy person - but to be clear - not sure I want to pay to watch us get hosed
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Dec 22, 2020 21:10:00 GMT -6
I see this rumor has died a quick death.
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 23, 2020 5:58:51 GMT -6
I see this rumor has died a quick death. You don’t get out much do you?
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Post by troyjan95 on Dec 23, 2020 8:23:45 GMT -6
If this is still a possibility, guessing the AD has a bird in the hand to hire before making any announcement. Not a search like Auburn where 5 people turn it down.
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Post by jonesoxygen on Dec 23, 2020 8:31:20 GMT -6
I see this rumor has died a quick death. Come look at the daily texts and calls I'm getting, it's certainly not dead.
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 23, 2020 9:16:15 GMT -6
I see this rumor has died a quick death. Come look at the daily texts and calls I'm getting, it's certainly not dead. Same...
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Post by scatman on Dec 23, 2020 9:19:34 GMT -6
I think it’s gone silent here because we realized we were beating a dead horse. But from the outside it seems the opposite. Like several of us have said though, this is a long process to get both sides through this with as few scrapes and bruises as possible. I’m sure people who are more well connected than me can vouch for the intensifying unrest of those around the program.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 23, 2020 10:00:14 GMT -6
There was a whole lot more buzz about things once it becomes well known throughout media's and areas of people. Kind of like getting back to Spain for Columbus - people started talking once more and more heard about it. Eventually someone from administration or (The HC we don’t speak of) himself will have to say something (or at least you would think). As Hemi said earlier: "This is eventually going to hurt recruiting and the program" more by the denial or cover up than a particular deed that anyone person committed. Just seems that always happens.
I still hope as Scatman said: That we can get out of this with as few a bumps and bruises on anyone (including (The HC we don’t speak of)). I am pretty sure that just never saying anything is NOT the best way to handle it. Since football is over we still will have spring (of some sort) then fall camp and next season. When those occur the volume of WHAT THE HECK is going on will again pick up by more and more folks. If (The HC we don’t speak of) is involved with a 23-24 year old (I truly don't get it from her perspective) but no one asked me. So please (The HC we don’t speak of) Mea Culpa or denial or simply tell everyone it is none of our business and we can get back to just judging you as a coach and see how many will support doing that at risk to the program and University.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Dec 23, 2020 14:18:19 GMT -6
So if the rumors are true, and there is denial or a covering up of everything... then what are we to think about Jack Hawkins and Brent Jones from a moral perspective? Or from a standpoint of what is best for Troy University's future?
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Dec 23, 2020 14:24:29 GMT -6
Does anyone have any proof of any impropriety or will members continue to hurl baseless accusations on the board and then look at you cross eyed when you ask for evidence and clarification?
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 23, 2020 14:44:20 GMT -6
I will support Troy no matter what the decisions are and one day things will be better. However, the extent of dying down will not stay down till addressed. If it is not addressed then the calculation is that there is enough like me who will support the program even if we do not like how it is handled at the moment. Maybe there is an end point for me but this is not it.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Dec 23, 2020 15:34:26 GMT -6
Does anyone have any proof of any impropriety or will members continue to hurl baseless accusations on the board and then look at you cross eyed when you ask for evidence and clarification? I have no proof and therefore I've tried to really careful about saying "IF" the allegations are true. That said, the more time that passes without a denial from either (The HC we don’t speak of), the athletic department, or the university administration, the more plausible the rumors sound. If this were me and I was being accused of what (The HC we don’t speak of) is being accused and I was innocent, I'd be vehemently proclaiming my innocence in every forum and in every manner I could find. There is NO WAY I'd stand idly by while my character was being assassinated in this manner - IF I was innocent.
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Dec 23, 2020 16:43:19 GMT -6
Rumor and allegations, allegations and rumors. For once can we stop dancing around and actually spit out what this alleged impropriety is? If you're so confident then tell us what (The HC we don’t speak of) is being accused of. If you don't want to post it on these boards because you're worried you may get sued or could be wrong then that in it self should be a red flag.
From what I gather some dude called JBoy or the JBoy Show posted a tweet saying (The HC we don’t speak of) could be in some hot water....and no evidence presented. No names, no documents, nothing. Then some posters on here, unhappy with a 5-6 season, jump all over it and start demanding the University address this controversy, again, not saying what the controversy actually is but demand the school make a statement about it. Now, according to my sources, a "disgruntled Troy fan" has messaged Fox 6 in Birmingham to look into it.
I will ask, again, what is the allegation? What have you heard? Is there any shred of proof? It's okay to say "I heard that ___, but I haven't seen any evidence to back that up." What makes you think the "rumors" are true?
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Post by jonesoxygen on Dec 23, 2020 16:45:51 GMT -6
Rumor and allegations, allegations and rumors. For once can we stop dancing around and actually spit out what this alleged impropriety is? If you're so confident then tell us what (The HC we don’t speak of) is being accused of. If you don't want to post it on these boards because you're worried you may get sued or could be wrong then that in it self should be a red flag. From what I gather some dude called JBoy or the JBoy Show posted a tweet saying (The HC we don’t speak of) could be in some hot water....and no evidence presented. No names, no documents, nothing. Then some posters on here, unhappy with a 5-6 season, jump all over it and start demanding the University address this controversy, again, not saying what the controversy actually is but demand the school make a statement about it. Now, according to my sources, a "disgruntled Troy fan" has messaged Fox 6 in Birmingham to look into it. I will ask, again, what is the allegation? What have you heard? Is there any shred of proof? It's okay to say "I heard that ___, but I haven't seen any evidence to back that up." What makes you think the "rumors" are true? Since all of this is being discussed about rumors, I think people are being very wise not to share them on a message board.
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Dec 23, 2020 16:50:50 GMT -6
Rumor and allegations, allegations and rumors. For once can we stop dancing around and actually spit out what this alleged impropriety is? If you're so confident then tell us what (The HC we don’t speak of) is being accused of. If you don't want to post it on these boards because you're worried you may get sued or could be wrong then that in it self should be a red flag. From what I gather some dude called JBoy or the JBoy Show posted a tweet saying (The HC we don’t speak of) could be in some hot water....and no evidence presented. No names, no documents, nothing. Then some posters on here, unhappy with a 5-6 season, jump all over it and start demanding the University address this controversy, again, not saying what the controversy actually is but demand the school make a statement about it. Now, according to my sources, a "disgruntled Troy fan" has messaged Fox 6 in Birmingham to look into it. I will ask, again, what is the allegation? What have you heard? Is there any shred of proof? It's okay to say "I heard that ___, but I haven't seen any evidence to back that up." What makes you think the "rumors" are true? Since all of this is being discussed about rumors, I think people are being very wise not to share them on a message board. So to review: We don't know what the rumors are, we don't know if there is any truth to any of it, we don't know how big or how far it has spread, and we can't find any documentation. But yet we're going to demand Troy address allegation that even we don't know about? And folks are going to continue to promote what amounts to slander.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 23, 2020 17:01:38 GMT -6
Our board has a pretty limited viewership and pales into views on other social media sites that have been openly posted. I was asked about our coach today by one of my colleagues. He is an Auburn fan and got it from that angle. I am just pretty sure that this will not just go away. But I am going to make a deal with the board. I will not post anymore on the open forum about this. I may post something in the Trojan Warrior section if I have questions. I just simply wish someone would end the rumors by some statement of some type. Because even if I and others stop posting here this is not going away on its own.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Dec 23, 2020 17:18:10 GMT -6
Rumor and allegations, allegations and rumors. For once can we stop dancing around and actually spit out what this alleged impropriety is? If you're so confident then tell us what (The HC we don’t speak of) is being accused of. If you don't want to post it on these boards because you're worried you may get sued or could be wrong then that in it self should be a red flag. From what I gather some dude called JBoy or the JBoy Show posted a tweet saying (The HC we don’t speak of) could be in some hot water....and no evidence presented. No names, no documents, nothing. Then some posters on here, unhappy with a 5-6 season, jump all over it and start demanding the University address this controversy, again, not saying what the controversy actually is but demand the school make a statement about it. Now, according to my sources, a "disgruntled Troy fan" has messaged Fox 6 in Birmingham to look into it. I will ask, again, what is the allegation? What have you heard? Is there any shred of proof? It's okay to say "I heard that ___, but I haven't seen any evidence to back that up." What makes you think the "rumors" are true? Though you didn't say to whom you were addressing your post, it immediately followed mine and seems to address some things I wrote, so I'll respond. 1) I first heard the rumors from someone I would trust with my life. He didn't share the rumor with me, he asked if I had heard anything about (The HC we don’t speak of) being in trouble. When I said "only from a poor performance standpoint" he told me what he had heard. He IS NOT connected to the TROY football program, he's a fan of another school in the state, but he heard the rumor before I did. 2) This conversation occurred at least a week before the JBoy information, therefore, I became aware of this rumor at least a week before the that information. I spoke privately to someone I thought might have more info than me, and he said the rumor was months old, but that it had been closely guarded. I will not reveal the identities of the individuals I had these conversations with, nor will I reveal the details that were shared with me. To do so would violate a pledge to each of them that the conversations would remain confidential. 3) Though true that the allegations have not been posted in the public forum that is this message board, the allegations are in the public domain, primarily, on Twitter. These allegations (and I agree they are, until proven or confirmed by parties involved, only allegations) if true, will likely be damaging to the TROY football program, athletic department, and university if not addressed soon. 4) In summary, this isn't a case of fans being disgruntled over a 5-6 season. If true, this mess occurred well before the FB season started and details were known, at least by some. For these reasons, I will not post the allegations on this board. Neither will I call for any kind of disciplinary action, including the firing of (The HC we don’t speak of), unless, and until the allegations have been confirmed by the parties responsible for dealing with the rumors. However, I have and will continue to call for a quick addressing of the situation by the appropriate parties.
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