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Post by tutrojan on Dec 12, 2023 16:23:22 GMT -6
Several years back when we were struggling as a football team, there was some discussion that our issues centered mainly around our budget and lack of facilities… I think we all knew these were excuses then. We had mediocre coaching and the results showed up in lousy blocking, schemes, tackling, etc.
Sumrall was hired in and it was immediately evident that a great motivator with a staff that was intently focused on technique, details, and discipline could successfully mould the athletes from a losing team into contenders.
I sure hope our leadership studies those attributes that allowed us to catch lightning in a bottle so that we might duplicate it again.
I appreciate Sumrall for the talented coach he is- he had me ready to suit up at his first press conference- and how he turned Troy back into a winner with TMTDM and power football. I wish him the best going forward and hopes he has a tremendously successful career.
I hope we avoid the comfortable pick and look under every stone until we find our right man again!
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Post by jonesoxygen on Dec 12, 2023 16:29:08 GMT -6
Brent hired Skylar Meade, Jon Sumrall and essentially Scott Cross (AD what's his name was halfway out the door) . I say that to say, our AD has a solid track record of hiring head coaches for the big 3 sports. Look at the attitude and effort all 3 of those have on the court / field. Their energy is unmatched and reflects the kind of energy Brent has as well.
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Post by tutrojan on Dec 12, 2023 16:43:20 GMT -6
Brent hired Skylar Meade, Jon Sumrall and essentially Scott Cross (AD what's his name was halfway out the door) . I say that to say, our AD has a solid track record of hiring head coaches for the big 3 sports. Look at the attitude and effort all 3 of those have on the court / field. Their energy is unmatched and reflects the kind of energy Brent has as well. You are absolutely correct.
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 12, 2023 17:03:34 GMT -6
Several years back when we were struggling as a football team, there was some discussion that our issues centered mainly around our budget and lack of facilities… I think we all knew these were excuses then. We had mediocre coaching and the results showed up in lousy blocking, schemes, tackling, etc. Sumrall was hired in and it was immediately evident that a great motivator with a staff that was intently focused on technique, details, and discipline could successfully mould the athletes from a losing team into contenders. I sure hope our leadership studies those attributes that allowed us to catch lightning in a bottle so that we might duplicate it again. I appreciate Sumrall for the talented coach he is- he had me ready to suit up at his first press conference- and how he turned Troy back into a winner with TMTDM and power football. I wish him the best going forward and hopes he has a tremendously successful career. I hope we avoid the comfortable pick and look under every stone until we find our right man again! No AD worth anything would make a comfortable pick with his livelihood tied to it.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 12, 2023 17:25:07 GMT -6
Brent hired Skylar Meade, Jon Sumrall and essentially Scott Cross (AD what's his name was halfway out the door) . I say that to say, our AD has a solid track record of hiring head coaches for the big 3 sports. Look at the attitude and effort all 3 of those have on the court / field. Their energy is unmatched and reflects the kind of energy Brent has as well. This. sleep well pilgrim.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Dec 12, 2023 18:42:56 GMT -6
Ho have total faith in whoever AD Jason Jones pic.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 12, 2023 19:07:11 GMT -6
Several years back when we were struggling as a football team, there was some discussion that our issues centered mainly around our budget and lack of facilities… I think we all knew these were excuses then. We had mediocre coaching and the results showed up in lousy blocking, schemes, tackling, etc. Sumrall was hired in and it was immediately evident that a great motivator with a staff that was intently focused on technique, details, and discipline could successfully mould the athletes from a losing team into contenders. I sure hope our leadership studies those attributes that allowed us to catch lightning in a bottle so that we might duplicate it again. I appreciate Sumrall for the talented coach he is- he had me ready to suit up at his first press conference- and how he turned Troy back into a winner with TMTDM and power football. I wish him the best going forward and hopes he has a tremendously successful career. I hope we avoid the comfortable pick and look under every stone until we find our right man again! Nice post tu. Couple things from the posts on this thread. Our budget, it can stand to be improved. Yes, always a possibility of a comfortable (or lazy) pick, especially when one presses for time. But Brent Jones is a good AD, hope Hawkins cabal doesn’t get in his way too much. But any coach ultimately get judged on whether he/she wins (championships). Good Effort, attitude and energy are nice and do reflect a positive program, it means little if the team is not winning (championships). His Sumrall hire was a home run, Meade looks like it (only one year), Cross, in year five, after rough start is middle of the pack and is .500 at the start of this year. Although not a major sport, the women’s soccer coaching carousel has been a disaster, I feel for those young ladies.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 12, 2023 19:25:39 GMT -6
I saw The Trojan Wall asked AI for a list of coaching candidates and it went stupid and named Uncle Fester as first choice.
I decided to ask ChatGPT on my own and here is what it returned:
Considering the success of the Troy Trojans and the vacancy for the head football coach position, here are a few potential recommendations for the role:
1. **Neal Brown (Current: West Virginia Head Coach):** Known for his successful tenure at Troy, Brown could be enticed to return to lead the Trojans once again, bringing his experience and familiarity with the program.
2. **Chad Lunsford (Current: Georgia Southern Head Coach):** Lunsford has demonstrated success in the Sun Belt Conference and might be interested in taking on a new challenge at Troy, building upon his coaching achievements.
3. **Will Hall (Current: Southern Miss Head Coach):** With experience in various coaching roles, including successful stints as an offensive coordinator, Hall could be a candidate to lead Troy's football program.
4. **Billy Napier (Current: Florida Head Coach):** If the university aims for an ambitious hire, Napier has a proven track record of success and could be attracted to the opportunity to lead a program like Troy.
Remember to consider factors like coaching philosophy, compatibility with the university's vision, and recruiting capabilities when making a coaching selection.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 12, 2023 19:30:51 GMT -6
I asked it to explain Neal Brown
Neal Brown might consider returning to Troy for several reasons:
1. **Familiarity and Success:** Brown enjoyed considerable success during his previous stint with the Troy Trojans, winning consecutive Sun Belt titles. Returning to a program where he has achieved success could be appealing, especially if he feels a strong connection to the university.
2. **Community and Fan Support:** Troy's close-knit community and passionate fan base could be a significant factor. If Brown values a supportive environment and a community that is deeply invested in the success of its football program, returning to Troy might be enticing.
3. **Opportunity for Growth:** Brown may view returning to Troy as an opportunity to further develop and grow the football program. Building upon his previous success, he could see the chance to elevate the program even more and leave a lasting legacy.
4. **Personal and Family Considerations:** Personal factors, such as family preferences or ties to the area, could influence Brown's decision. If returning to Troy aligns with his family's needs and preferences, it could be a compelling reason for his return.
5. **Challenge and Redemption:** If Brown sees the Troy job as a unique challenge or a chance for redemption in some way, he might be motivated to return and prove himself once again, either to the university or to the broader football community.
Ultimately, coaching decisions are complex and involve a combination of professional, personal, and strategic considerations. If Troy presents a compelling package and aligns with Brown's aspirations, a return could be a mutually beneficial opportunity.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 12, 2023 19:36:52 GMT -6
How much should Troy pay Neal Brown?
Determining a specific salary for a college football coach involves various factors, including the coach's experience, track record, the program's budget, and market conditions. As of my last knowledge update in January 2022, Neal Brown was the head coach at West Virginia.
As an estimate, considering the competitive nature of college football coaching salaries and the success Brown achieved at Troy and West Virginia, a salary in the range of $2 to $3 million per year could be a reasonable ballpark figure. However, this is purely speculative, and actual negotiations would depend on the specific circumstances, market trends, and the financial capacity of Troy University's athletic program.
For the most accurate and up-to-date information, I recommend checking recent sports news or official announcements from Troy University regarding their coaching decisions and contracts.
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Post by joshboutwell on Dec 12, 2023 19:38:59 GMT -6
Good to see AI isn't ready to take over the world yet.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 12, 2023 19:40:28 GMT -6
What should ADBJ say to Neal Brown when he calls him?
"Neal, Troy awaits the return of a proven leader, and your past success here speaks volumes. Imagine the opportunity to build upon the foundation you laid, securing a lasting legacy. The Trojan community, deeply passionate and supportive, longs to see you at the helm once more. Your expertise, combined with the shared history and the potential for further triumphs, could create a chapter in Troy's football legacy that resonates for years. Consider the prospect of returning to a place where your coaching journey reached new heights, and where a community is ready to embrace the next chapter of success under your guidance. Troy beckons for a leader, and you've proven to be precisely that."
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 12, 2023 19:42:28 GMT -6
Good to see AI isn't ready to take over the world yet. Your job is safe. We love you Scoop!
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 12, 2023 19:44:58 GMT -6
What should ADBJ say to Neal Brown when he calls him? "Neal, Troy awaits the return of a proven leader, and your past success here speaks volumes. Imagine the opportunity to build upon the foundation you laid, securing a lasting legacy. The Trojan community, deeply passionate and supportive, longs to see you at the helm once more. Your expertise, combined with the shared history and the potential for further triumphs, could create a chapter in Troy's football legacy that resonates for years. Consider the prospect of returning to a place where your coaching journey reached new heights, and where a community is ready to embrace the next chapter of success under your guidance. Troy beckons for a leader, and you've proven to be precisely that." For about 3.5 million less than you are making now but …..uh we have a new IPF coming and we have …. Uh…in dog millions that difference is only about a half million.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 12, 2023 19:45:15 GMT -6
What should ADBJ say to Neal Brown when he calls him? "Neal, Troy awaits the return of a proven leader, and your past success here speaks volumes. Imagine the opportunity to build upon the foundation you laid, securing a lasting legacy. The Trojan community, deeply passionate and supportive, longs to see you at the helm once more. Your expertise, combined with the shared history and the potential for further triumphs, could create a chapter in Troy's football legacy that resonates for years. Consider the prospect of returning to a place where your coaching journey reached new heights, and where a community is ready to embrace the next chapter of success under your guidance. Troy beckons for a leader, and you've proven to be precisely that." Neal Brown’s response: “can you give me a 5 year, $16 million contract, full guaranteed, with a zero buyout, including a doubling of the assistant money pool ?”
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 12, 2023 19:48:14 GMT -6
What should ADBJ say to Neal Brown when he calls him? "Neal, Troy awaits the return of a proven leader, and your past success here speaks volumes. Imagine the opportunity to build upon the foundation you laid, securing a lasting legacy. The Trojan community, deeply passionate and supportive, longs to see you at the helm once more. Your expertise, combined with the shared history and the potential for further triumphs, could create a chapter in Troy's football legacy that resonates for years. Consider the prospect of returning to a place where your coaching journey reached new heights, and where a community is ready to embrace the next chapter of success under your guidance. Troy beckons for a leader, and you've proven to be precisely that." Neal Brown’s response: “can you give me a 5 year, $16 million contract, full guaranteed, with a zero buyout, including a doubling of the assistant money pool ?” I think there is that much between the couch cushions in the house on the hill.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 12, 2023 19:57:18 GMT -6
Neal Brown’s response: “can you give me a 5 year, $16 million contract, full guaranteed, with a zero buyout, including a doubling of the assistant money pool ?” I think there is that much between the couch cushions in the house on the hill. Couch Cushion card would have played last week.
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 12, 2023 19:58:22 GMT -6
I saw The Trojan Wall asked AI for a list of coaching candidates and it went stupid and named Uncle Fester as first choice. I decided to ask ChatGPT on my own and here is what it returned: Considering the success of the Troy Trojans and the vacancy for the head football coach position, here are a few potential recommendations for the role: 1. **Neal Brown (Current: West Virginia Head Coach):** Known for his successful tenure at Troy, Brown could be enticed to return to lead the Trojans once again, bringing his experience and familiarity with the program. 2. **Chad Lunsford (Current: Georgia Southern Head Coach):** Lunsford has demonstrated success in the Sun Belt Conference and might be interested in taking on a new challenge at Troy, building upon his coaching achievements. 3. **Will Hall (Current: Southern Miss Head Coach):** With experience in various coaching roles, including successful stints as an offensive coordinator, Hall could be a candidate to lead Troy's football program. 4. **Billy Napier (Current: Florida Head Coach):** If the university aims for an ambitious hire, Napier has a proven track record of success and could be attracted to the opportunity to lead a program like Troy. Remember to consider factors like coaching philosophy, compatibility with the university's vision, and recruiting capabilities when making a coaching selection. This is why we don’t let computers hire coaches
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 12, 2023 20:04:19 GMT -6
Everyone in here knows Sumrall can’t hold Brown’s jock. #troyfan #hottakeoftheweek
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Post by troyfan on Dec 12, 2023 20:40:33 GMT -6
Everyone in here knows Sumrall can’t hold Brown’s jock. #troyfan #hottakeoftheweek You have the coaches backwards.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 12, 2023 21:01:17 GMT -6
Everyone in here knows Sumrall can’t hold Brown’s jock. #troyfan #hottakeoftheweek You have the coaches backwards.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 12, 2023 21:11:55 GMT -6
Modern history coach ranking: 1. Larry Legend 2. Neal Brown 3. Jon Sumrall 4. Bald Menace Modern History, Not many because ole Larry coached here for so long. JMO.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Dec 12, 2023 21:31:47 GMT -6
Look. DT was a Sumrall guy from way back. But, if Neal showed a remote interest in coming back home. Well I would be 100% on board. HCNB is a fluckin great coach. Especially when he is somewhere that props him up for success. WVU is not that place.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 13, 2023 6:34:09 GMT -6
What should ADBJ say to Neal Brown when he calls him? "Neal, Troy awaits the return of a proven leader, and your past success here speaks volumes. Imagine the opportunity to build upon the foundation you laid, securing a lasting legacy. The Trojan community, deeply passionate and supportive, longs to see you at the helm once more. Your expertise, combined with the shared history and the potential for further triumphs, could create a chapter in Troy's football legacy that resonates for years. Consider the prospect of returning to a place where your coaching journey reached new heights, and where a community is ready to embrace the next chapter of success under your guidance. Troy beckons for a leader, and you've proven to be precisely that." Neal Brown’s response: “can you give me a 5 year, $16 million contract, full guaranteed, with a zero buyout, including a doubling of the assistant money pool ?” If he even bothers to call back. Just ain't happening.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 13, 2023 7:15:57 GMT -6
I agree with Cornhole. However, if I am Neal Brown it should give him a good feeling, should he become aware of this thread. That feeling based on the angst with which some have shown toward JS while he remains loved and appreciated five years hence. I hope all of us (or at least most) will one day have that feeling toward JS as well. Character and culture can be carried on for NO one lives and leads another forever. I will look back and appreciate these past couple of years just like I look back to other great times in my life. Appreciation and gratitude can make things good even better.
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