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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Dec 10, 2023 9:16:15 GMT -6
There's no option for polls on here still. So I'm curious who many on here prefer.
I've seen names such as Bill Clark, Bryan Harsin, Greg Gasparato, Joe Craddock, Cadillac Williams, Derrick Ansley, Jordan Lesley, Tommie Robinson, Al Pogue, and even Matt Entz (NDSU head coach).
I really like the idea of Bill Clark. He's a proven winner and has a certain unique attitude to him, and would run a similar style on offense and defense.
Keeping guys like Gasparato or even Craddock keeps everything flowing smoothly also.
I have an issue with wanting to bring in Neal Brown guys. They would change the offense up and possibly more, and I don't want to see Troy go back to an offense that is framed on the spread offense. I like what Joe Craddock has done with it.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 10, 2023 9:30:27 GMT -6
I don't follow coaches as much as yall, so I can't give you a name. I'll give you what I perceive to be the keys to a successful coach:
1. Recruiting. We all know this is important, but for Troy it is a bit different. We need a guy that isn't afraid to go after the diamond in the rough. DeMarcus Ware, Carlton Martial etc. We need a guy that could make tough sales.
2. ATDL - This philosophy comes in many flavors, but I think we all agree that when we win, we have a disciplined team that buys in. Neal Brown had players moving freshmen into dorms. The service and spirit awards are important.
3. Student body buy in. -Brown and $umrall both were able to get the students to buy in. This requires a coach to lose a little coaching time to just hang out in the dining hall and ride the golf cart around.
4. A coach that can talk to the fanbase. Brown and $umrall gave great pressers. This is important because the Troy fanbase thinks of itself as family. You lose a game and we can handle it if you own it. We don't tolerate aww shucks like we saw under Uncle.
5. A coach that expects to win even against P5. The one thing that I believe Troy fans hate most is aww shucks. Our new coach should have the "It's never ok to lose." attitude.
All in all, We know what we want and I think that guy is out there and understands what a job at Troy can do for your future.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Dec 10, 2023 9:31:18 GMT -6
Bill clark id be good with… we would be contenders every year under him… he was good for about 8-9 wins at UAB on average. Which is pretty impressive for UAB. Won 3 championships there too. He would likely stick around 5-10 years as well.
Brian harsin? I could get on board with that too, proven winner
Craddock and Gasparato? Idk they would worry me just because of all the unknowns, I’d lean towards Gaspaeato if I had to pick.
The others really don’t excite me at all tbh.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 10, 2023 9:37:28 GMT -6
Bill clark id be good with… we would be contenders every year under him… he was good for about 8-9 wins at UAB on average. Which is pretty impressive for UAB. Won 3 championships there too. He would likely stick around 5-10 years as well. Brian harsin? I could get on board with that too, proven winner Craddock and Gasparato? Idk they would worry me just because of all the unknowns, I’d lean towards Gaspaeato if I had to pick. The others really don’t excite me at all tbh. The AU fanbase says Harsin quit before he was fired. They say he did no recruiting. I know AU is a messed up place and the boosters practically call plays on game day, but I worry that he will what the youngsters call ghost-quit if he doesn't get his way.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 10, 2023 9:47:17 GMT -6
There's no option for polls on here still. So I'm curious who many on here prefer.
I've seen names such as Bill Clark, Bryan Harsin, Greg Gasparato, Joe Craddock, Cadillac Williams, Derrick Ansley, Jordan Lesley, Tommie Robinson, Al Pogue, and even Matt Entz (NDSU head coach).
I really like the idea of Bill Clark. He's a proven winner and has a certain unique attitude to him, and would run a similar style on offense and defense.
Keeping guys like Gasparato or even Craddock keeps everything flowing smoothly also.
I have an issue with wanting to bring in Neal Brown guys. They would change the offense up and possibly more, and I don't want to see Troy go back to an offense that is framed on the spread offense. I like what Joe Craddock has done with it.
A bubble screen every now and then wouldn't hurt. But i agree, Craddock's O grew up and gelled this season. With Shiel Wood headed to Houston, we'll be lucky to keep Coach G. No excitement here about J Lesley.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 10, 2023 9:49:40 GMT -6
Bill clark id be good with… we would be contenders every year under him… he was good for about 8-9 wins at UAB on average. Which is pretty impressive for UAB. Won 3 championships there too. He would likely stick around 5-10 years as well. Brian harsin? I could get on board with that too, proven winner Craddock and Gasparato? Idk they would worry me just because of all the unknowns, I’d lean towards Gaspaeato if I had to pick. The others really don’t excite me at all tbh. The AU fanbase says Harsin quit before he was fired. They say he did no recruiting. I know AU is a messed up place and the boosters practically call plays on game day, but I worry that he will what the youngsters call ghost-quit if he doesn't get his way. Harsin has no business coaching in Alabama, or the Southeast for that matter.
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Post by tutrojan on Dec 10, 2023 9:51:58 GMT -6
The AU fanbase says Harsin quit before he was fired. They say he did no recruiting. I know AU is a messed up place and the boosters practically call plays on game day, but I worry that he will what the youngsters call ghost-quit if he doesn't get his way. Harsin has no business coaching in Alabama, or the Southeast for that matter. Thank you for this! Was logging in to write the same thing. He is not a coach nor is he a leader. He had one of the SEC’s worst coaching performances ever.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Dec 10, 2023 10:00:54 GMT -6
Clark or Caddy.
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Post by andytrojan on Dec 10, 2023 10:04:20 GMT -6
I like what I saw from Cadillac. We are 1-1 with Auburn folk. All the things y’all have said, I agree are important. I just want a coach with some fire. That motivates me as a fan and that’s what I saw from Cadillac as interim. I’ll accept all logic on why he is not a good fit except “he is not ready for HC” as most of our options are unproven. Is he really not an option? Also, is Bill Clark really on the table after is medical retirement?
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Dec 10, 2023 10:05:20 GMT -6
I like what I saw from Cadillac. We are 1-1 with Auburn folk. All the things y’all have said, I agree are important. I just want a coach with some fire. That motivates me as a fan and that’s what I saw from Cadillac as interim. I’ll accept all logic on why he is not a good fit except “he is not ready for HC” as most of our options are unproven. Is he really not an option? Also, is Bill Clark really on the table after is medical retirement? 1/4 of the folks here said that Neal and Jon were not ready.
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Post by Troy_Fan_15 on Dec 10, 2023 10:47:55 GMT -6
I like Bill Clark and keeping Craddock as OC and Gasparato as DC if possible. I also would be more inclined to see one of them promoted to HC over bringing in a former assistant at this time.
Hard pass on Harsin. People in Jonesboro were happy when he left Arkansas St. and Auburn fans were happy to see him gone too. He’s a West Coast guy and I don’t think he’d fit in at Troy. He needs to wait for another MWC school to open up.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Dec 10, 2023 10:57:12 GMT -6
#1 for me is Bill Clark - he's a proven winner and would keep things moving steadily. Also a great recruiter. If you can win big at UAB, then you can win big, if not bigger, at Troy.
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Post by multicampus on Dec 10, 2023 11:08:25 GMT -6
Is Clark healthy now?
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 10, 2023 11:09:51 GMT -6
I like what I saw from Cadillac. We are 1-1 with Auburn folk. All the things y’all have said, I agree are important. I just want a coach with some fire. That motivates me as a fan and that’s what I saw from Cadillac as interim. I’ll accept all logic on why he is not a good fit except “he is not ready for HC” as most of our options are unproven. Is he really not an option? Also, is Bill Clark really on the table after is medical retirement? 1/4 of the folks here said that Neal and Jon were not ready. I doubt (could be wrong….but don’t think so) that whoever it is the happiness we felt when JS said: Trojan Nation I’m your new…..”. You all know what he said. I just hope the huh or who or No’s are not there. At least reach the “that’s good” status.
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Post by andytrojan on Dec 10, 2023 12:08:46 GMT -6
One news source if you can trust any written word these days…. One notable candidate that has emerged is former UAB head coach Bill Clark. Known for his remarkable job reviving the UAB program, Clark retired in 2022 due to back issues. However, reports suggest that the 55-year-old is eager to return to coaching. With an impressive record, going 60-30 in seven seasons as a head coach, Clark could bring a wealth of experience to Troy and benefit from the program's resources.
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Post by gator8 on Dec 10, 2023 12:18:40 GMT -6
Bill clark id be good with… we would be contenders every year under him… he was good for about 8-9 wins at UAB on average. Which is pretty impressive for UAB. Won 3 championships there too. He would likely stick around 5-10 years as well. Brian harsin? I could get on board with that too, proven winner Craddock and Gasparato? Idk they would worry me just because of all the unknowns, I’d lean towards Gaspaeato if I had to pick. The others really don’t excite me at all tbh. The AU fanbase says Harsin quit before he was fired. They say he did no recruiting. I know AU is a messed up place and the boosters practically call plays on game day, but I worry that he will what the youngsters call ghost-quit if he doesn't get his way. Man, I’d have a hard time putting my best foot forward if some real “powers that be” claimed I was having an illicit affair when I wasn’t — just because he wasn’t their guy. Allegedly.
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Post by gator8 on Dec 10, 2023 12:22:03 GMT -6
Personally I think if we got Rich Rod, maybe he could give us 5-7 years of stability before retirement. He’s done a fantastic job up north.
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Post by andytrojan on Dec 10, 2023 12:30:21 GMT -6
Personally I think if we got Rich Rod, maybe he could give us 5-7 years of stability before retirement. He’s done a fantastic job up north. I actually liked him when we picked Jon so I agree.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Dec 10, 2023 14:35:40 GMT -6
Personally I think if we got Rich Rod, maybe he could give us 5-7 years of stability before retirement. He’s done a fantastic job up north. I don't think he's done moving back up to the P5. He'd leave JSU in a heartbeat if a P5 wanted him. No way Rich Rod ends his career at a G5 school.
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Dec 10, 2023 14:39:56 GMT -6
Although I trust the hires Brent Jones has made since becoming AD... I'm still terrified we're going to make a bad hire.
I see these other SBC schools that have hired coaches that make you scratch your head... like Coastal Carolina, Southern Miss, and ODU... and I don't want that to be us again. We can't handle another Fester that sets us back 10 years.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 10, 2023 14:48:37 GMT -6
Although I trust the hires Brent Jones has made since becoming AD... I'm still terrified we're going to make a bad hire. I see these other SBC schools that have hired coaches that make you scratch your head... like Coastal Carolina, Southern Miss, and ODU... and I don't want that to be us again. We can't handle another Fester that sets us back 10 years. The glass is half full. Let's trust the process. Fester only set us back 3, it only took a great hire 1 year to bring it back!!
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Post by fltrojan on Dec 10, 2023 15:54:57 GMT -6
Clark. Proven winner, recruiter and would stay more than two seasons
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Post by pctrojan16 on Dec 10, 2023 16:08:49 GMT -6
Craddock or Gaspsrato… both are intense and know the players and the expectations
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Post by trojan2003 on Dec 10, 2023 16:34:49 GMT -6
The AU fanbase says Harsin quit before he was fired. They say he did no recruiting. I know AU is a messed up place and the boosters practically call plays on game day, but I worry that he will what the youngsters call ghost-quit if he doesn't get his way. Harsin has no business coaching in Alabama, or the Southeast for that matter. Exactly. Harsin doesn’t want his assistants to spend too much time recruiting. He thinks coaching is more important than recruiting, character is more important than talent. He also doesn’t believe in NIL. Most Auburn and Boise fans absolutely despise him. Advertiser: “Longtime Thompson coach Mark Freeman said that he has never met Harsin when asked after National Signing Day. He has heard similarly from other Birmingham coaches. Harsin hadn’t been to Thompson. It's a recurring theme: Seven of the 14 coaches who spoke with the Advertiser had not met Harsin. Whether or not that’s a serious concern varies depending on the coach. Some believe it’s unreasonable to expect Harsin to contact every in-state school so quickly. Others said the bare minimum is to have made that a top priority by now. A number of coaches were baffled that they haven't interacted with Auburn's head coach. One said Harsin's continued absence is "just insane to me."
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Post by fltrojan on Dec 10, 2023 16:35:40 GMT -6
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