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Post by Spiritual Trojan on Sept 16, 2023 21:01:57 GMT -6
Please elaborate on how this cost him Millions. Is that because you think his star is not shining as bright as it was last year? What are the odds of a 2 loss Troy team making it to a NY-6 game?
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Post by TrojanFanatic on Sept 16, 2023 21:05:20 GMT -6
Please elaborate on how this cost him Millions. Is that because you think his star is not shining as bright as it was last year? What are the odds of a 2 loss Troy team making it to a NY-6 game? A snowflake has a better chance in hell
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Post by The Cardinal Rule on Sept 16, 2023 21:06:14 GMT -6
Please elaborate on how this cost him Millions. Is that because you think his star is not shining as bright as it was last year? What are the odds of a 2 loss Troy team making it to a NY-6 game? First of all I was told there would be no math. But I now I would say between Jack and S*** and Jack just left town.
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Post by trojanmatt on Sept 16, 2023 21:13:21 GMT -6
Today Troy beat Troy! Give it up to JMU for outscoring us with 1 touchdown and 3 field goals but the offense was really bad and play calling was worse. Craddock has to change or this is going to be a long season!
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 16, 2023 21:18:36 GMT -6
This game cost Sumrall millions in future salary. It’s toughness that is required. Sticking with Craddock cost him. HCJS has toughness We will see
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 16, 2023 21:27:00 GMT -6
Today Troy beat Troy! Give it up to JMU for outscoring us with 1 touchdown and 3 field goals but the offense was really bad and play calling was worse. Craddock has to change or this is going to be a long season! Agreed
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Post by psitech on Sept 16, 2023 21:29:37 GMT -6
I think we're all a bit shocked due to us having such high hopes for this year coming off such a great run last year. I've gotta be honest though, once they decided to go with Gunnar to start the season, that put a bad feeling in my gut. I know he's a good kid, but he's extremely inconsistent and makes poor decisions. I know we have a lot of games ahead of us, but changes have to be made if we're gonna turn this around.
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Post by trojanmatt on Sept 16, 2023 21:52:50 GMT -6
This is two weeks in a row where our offense has really struggled and the running game was not productive ! I think The issue is a combination of 3 things 1. O Line not opening up holes 2 questionable play calling 3 Gunnar’s decision making in key possessions
Can the O mi e get better? Can Craddock be more creative? Can Gunner improve?
I like Gunnar but i think for a 6 year Senior he has reached his potential. O Line can improve with practice and coaching Craddock TBD. But if we continue to only score 14 he will be looking for a new job next year
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Post by cornhole on Sept 16, 2023 21:53:30 GMT -6
The entire final drive we ran the ball 0 times. You take what the D allows. And when we ran? We gained how many yards rushing the whole game ? Like, -12 or something? JMU rush defense is one of tops in the country. Pass defense not so good.
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Post by trojanmatt on Sept 16, 2023 21:57:35 GMT -6
Agreed but 3 runs kills the clock and barring a penalty keeps us in FG position!
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Post by hi on Sept 16, 2023 22:16:48 GMT -6
If our Offense doesn’t improve we may very well lose to Texas State and get crushed by South Alabama.
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Post by psitech on Sept 16, 2023 22:19:16 GMT -6
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Post by asacarter on Sept 16, 2023 22:22:59 GMT -6
Online was didn't play well Gunner has not progressed in the time at Troy. Stares down receivers, misses routine throws. Craddock gives me a Don Jacobs vibe. In that he has a reluctance to change in the game. But we have been good and we've been bad before. The sun will probably come up tomorrow. I have to work tomorrow so my worthless opinion is done. Go Troy!!
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 16, 2023 23:34:40 GMT -6
This is two weeks in a row where our offense has really struggled and the running game was not productive ! I think The issue is a combination of 3 things 1. O Line not opening up holes 2 questionable play calling 3 Gunnarâs decision making in key possessions Can the O mi e get better? Can Craddock be more creative? Can Gunner improve? I like Gunnar but i think for a 6 year Senior he has reached his potential. O Line can improve with practice and coaching Craddock TBD. But if we continue to only score 14 he will be looking for a new job next year I need to disagree with you on one thing. Although it is two weeks in a row this season that we have struggled, it is not new. We struggled last season. Coming into tonight's game, we were 35% on 3rd down under our OC. Tonight, we were 20% on third down. We are getting worse. We are not improving on Offense. Last season's championship belongs to the defense. This season, our defense has done all they can for us. We are bad on offense. We are (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) bad on offense.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 16, 2023 23:38:09 GMT -6
Gunnar = human version of period cramps You have my vote for Troy Boyz Hot Take of The Week.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 16, 2023 23:41:40 GMT -6
24/46 for Gunner, 11 rushing yards for Vidal. Wonder why we didn’t win? Can’t blame the defense. Let’s be fair, last year we found a way to win in close games. The competition is better now. The West is better. USA beat a Big 12 team. Hell, Texas State is even better. We can’t be competitive in this division with defense alone. TMTDM is solid but we played like the front porch men’s room on offense. Cold and splashed with piss. Small correction. Vidal had 27 yards on 11 carries.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Sept 17, 2023 6:58:08 GMT -6
I have a hard time believing the rush offense is as poor as it actually is showing at the moment. When moving fullback in we may have been slightly better but not too good. This leaves us one dimensional and that makes anything less than stellar QB play (which requires better pass blocking). With the players we have we are in a bit of pickle on the offensive side. Even though the D may not be perfect they will give us a chance. Posters have notes Texas State and USA in west. It is clear there will be some innovation needed on the O side.
Last PM the zebra’s missed numerous pass interference calls. I am not one to call officiating as the reason but last nite it may have made quite a difference in that close game. Their Dbacks could not actually keep up with our receivers except when obvious that is all we could do.
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Post by fltrojan on Sept 17, 2023 7:38:34 GMT -6
I have a hard time believing the rush offense is as poor as it actually is showing at the moment. When moving fullback in we may have been slightly better but not too good. This leaves us one dimensional and that makes anything less than stellar QB play (which requires better pass blocking). With the players we have we are in a bit of pickle on the offensive side. Even though the D may not be perfect they will give us a chance. Posters have notes Texas State and USA in west. It is clear there will be some innovation needed on the O side. Last PM the zebra’s missed numerous pass interference calls. I am not one to call officiating as the reason but last nite it may have made quite a difference in that close game. Their Dbacks could not actually keep up with our receivers except when obvious that is all we could do. Pass blocking is harder when your QB won't step up in the pocket or has a feel for pressure and can extend a play. Gunnar is pretty decent when he has no pressure and can sit there and plant his feet and make the throw. Great qbs that weren't mobile...Peyton Manning, Brady, Marino etc could step up and make a throw. Even the announcers last night said he had plenty of time to step up and make the throw when he panicked and threw it out of bounds for the grounding call. As far as the run game goes this is the second week in a row that the announcers have also commented on the lineman splits being so tight. Get some splits will greatly help the run game. We aren't running a power I. Even option teams have three foot splits. OL has issues but all the blame isn't on them
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Post by troyjan95 on Sept 17, 2023 8:25:00 GMT -6
Gunnar should not have been put in the position to throw on third down. Run up the middle and attempt to kick a field goal.
Gunnar did make a mistake after being put in that position. It sucks.
If we get better each game, we will be okay.
Conference Championship is still in our sights!
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 17, 2023 8:45:50 GMT -6
I know I have been on an island since last year concerning our unimaginative, unproductive and wildly inconsistent Offensive scheme, play calling and QB play, but I was surprised that sooo many people at the game and posters here are saying it and upset by it. It’s like a switch finally turned on. Something has to change and it has to change now or this team is potentially looking at 6-6 or 7-5. The Defense can only do so much, which is already a huge amount.
It was a wonderful weekend. Family, friends, fellow alumni. Food drink and fun was had by all. Wish he had won.
I have decided got to wait to let Sumrall learn what it takes to be a head coach and make changes. But even the Trojan fan base has limits. You saw it at the end of CLB reign and you saw it at Ch!p Lindsay coaching. When the stadium is half full and donations soften because you can’t score more than 10-17 points and are .500. It gets real. This can’t continue long term. I believe everyone will be patient with Sumrall, they see his potential.
This reminds me of OC Fleetwood days and that was really brutal.
Let a go Coach. Let’s adjust, change some things and get better.
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 17, 2023 8:52:29 GMT -6
Some of y’all should take a 24 hour break before posting. Tough loss. It’s a game of inches.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 17, 2023 9:30:03 GMT -6
Some of y’all should take a 24 hour break before posting. Tough loss. It’s a game of inches. You make a good rational point. That being said, it’s obvious to even us keyboard coaches what needs to be corrected for us to be a great team.
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Post by pctrojan16 on Sept 17, 2023 9:30:31 GMT -6
Yupp don’t need to spend time on this and that, focus on the NEXT game.. nothing we say here will have any effect on game planning. Hell I post here to vent and get it out of my system. Time to turn to WKU and get ready for Saturday! Early kickoff
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 17, 2023 9:37:33 GMT -6
Never understand why people come on here post about other people posting about Troy Football on a message board dedicated to Troy Football? Not that they agree or disagree about the content of the post but about them even posting on the board. Silly
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 17, 2023 9:38:54 GMT -6
Yupp don’t need to spend time on this and that, focus on the NEXT game.. nothing we say here will have any effect on game planning. Hell I post here to vent and get it out of my system. Time to turn to WKU and get ready for Saturday! Early kickoff You’d be surprised. I’m told that HCJS does read our crazy. Some on this board even have too much access. An anonymous member of this board sent me this at 2am.
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