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Post by trojanocean on Jul 29, 2023 8:38:58 GMT -6
So the athletics staff has been very responsive to feedback from this board it seems. They VASTLY improved the quality of interviews with making the questions audible. Man, that's outstanding still to me; to have made mention of it and *boom*, they make it happen. The concessions have improved by leaps and bounds. You can tell there's serious intent with making the game day experience top shelf.
Well, I've got another request - or at least a question to get answered which would take the sting out of it and not knowing why. On the topic of cell service/wifi in the stadium: is there a legit reason it's a black hole once you're inside and is anyone in the organization taking a look at it? I don't think I've been in any other venue, covered or open, with an issue of getting at least my own network signal in the past 5+ years - and most of them had an in-house guest wifi access. I constantly try to check the board during the game's time outs or such. I'd love to be able to promote being at the game in the moment on social media but I know the best I can do is take a picture to upload later and by that time, the moment has passed for me. I think I've asked before but couldn't find it. Seems like the unofficial thought was structure/material interference with signal and I know that can create hurdles but...they're hurdles. Let's jump over them. Other places have it. Why not us? I can't wait to be back at the VET. This is my one piece of input to make things even better.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jul 29, 2023 15:55:43 GMT -6
This has been discussed before and the short answer is that the number of users exceeds capacity of the cell towers. Big schools bring in portable repeaters to handle the excess load. We aren’t big enough to justify the costs associated with doing so. Some tips for service at The Vet: Upper Deck works best as the lower stands create a Faraday cage. Also, premium provider subscribers get best service. IE a Verizon user will get better service than a secondary provider even though they claim to use the same network. My apologies, but I forgot who on here could hook you up with an ATT discount code. I used it for years and every time I went to an ATT store they asked what class I taught at Troy. I have since switched to Verizon. As for Wifi: Students can sometimes connect on the east side. I used to when I was in grad school. I don’t think there will be fan access. Maybe claim to be press?
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Jul 29, 2023 19:35:37 GMT -6
The problem also exists at basketball games, so I don’t think it’s only an issue of exceeding the capacity of the network. I’m sure making the infrastructure upgrades needed to provide quality internet would be VERY pricey.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Jul 29, 2023 20:21:48 GMT -6
The problem also exists at basketball games, so I don’t think it’s only an issue of exceeding the capacity of the network. I’m sure mKing the infrastructure upgrades needed to provide quality internet would be VERY pricey. I’ve never had the issue at basketball like at football
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Jul 30, 2023 6:43:30 GMT -6
The problem also exists at basketball games, so I don’t think it’s only an issue of exceeding the capacity of the network. I’m sure mKing the infrastructure upgrades needed to provide quality internet would be VERY pricey. I’ve never had the issue at basketball like at football Maybe I should clarify. The issue for me at the basketball games is not one of connectivity, but that the guest WiFi connection is slow. I'll issue a disclaimer, also. My wife and I are the only ones with phones on our Verizon account. We rarely use internet access away from home or work, where we have reliable fiber optic speed. The exception, is when we attend sporting events, and TROY football and basketball make up most of those. For this reason, I have found that it is cheaper for us to use a shared data plan and pay $15/GB if we exceed the plan limits than to have unlimited data on two lines. I try, even at that, to not go over on data usage, but it's hard to accomplish that during FB and BB seasons. I get it, I'm cheap and if I'd just pop for the extra $$ to have unlimited data, I'd have fewer problems, especially at the BB games and my grandkids events. All this to say, I recognize that my decision to have a shared data plan contributes to my internet issues at TROY, I realize that I could fix a lot of those issues by spending more money (about $50/month), but I'm about to retire and am looking to cut expenses, not increase them. Therefore, I'll continue to use the net at TROY when I can, and when I can't, I'll be Ok - frustrated, but OK.
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Post by mlambertii on Jul 30, 2023 22:04:46 GMT -6
I work for a primary carrier and have been in this industry for 13 years. Troy was a customer of mine, along with Auburn, Huntington, and Tuskegee. An LTD micro-cell can support about 100-200 simultaneous data sessions. 5G is much more complicated to figure out.
One carrier I worked for built lots of infrastructure for Auburn, as Auburn spends a ton on wireless. Troy doesn’t pay much with carriers, especially compared to other schools.
Many private HBCUs spend 10x what Troy does on cellular solutions (for various other reasons). I wouldn’t count on VZ and AT&T to support these projects as they are in cost-cutting mode. DAS projects are costly. A solution for the stadium would cost around 600-800k. Private DAS companies offer free solutions for businesses or government entities and then charge the carriers to lease them. Unfortunately, this is more common with venues such as airports with traffic 365 instead of 6 times a year.
Cows and Colts (Cell on Wheels and Cell on Light Trucks) will likely not solve this, depending on the backhaul. A Verizon COW is useless after, say, 50 users. These were great solutions in the past, but now that everyone lives streams everything 24/7, they have become less reliable.
An active DAS system would cost around 800k. Carriers would do this for free in exchange for a few thousand active service lines from the school, which is more expensive than 800k over the contract term. Interestingly enough, my current company has a solution that can broadcast cellular over wifi infrastructure, but we would need wifi broadcast in the stadium.
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Post by cornhole on Jul 31, 2023 6:30:06 GMT -6
I work for a primary carrier and have been in this industry for 13 years. Troy was a customer of mine, along with Auburn, Huntington, and Tuskegee. An LTD micro-cell can support about 100-200 simultaneous data sessions. 5G is much more complicated to figure out. One carrier I worked for built lots of infrastructure for Auburn, as Auburn spends a ton on wireless. Troy doesn’t pay much with carriers, especially compared to other schools. Many private HBCUs spend 10x what Troy does on cellular solutions (for various other reasons). I wouldn’t count on VZ and AT&T to support these projects as they are in cost-cutting mode. DAS projects are costly. A solution for the stadium would cost around 600-800k. Private DAS companies offer free solutions for businesses or government entities and then charge the carriers to lease them. Unfortunately, this is more common with venues such as airports with traffic 365 instead of 6 times a year. Cows and Colts (Cell on Wheels and Cell on Light Trucks) will likely not solve this, depending on the backhaul. A Verizon COW is useless after, say, 50 users. These were great solutions in the past, but now that everyone lives streams everything 24/7, they have become less reliable. An active DAS system would cost around 800k. Carriers would do this for free in exchange for a few thousand active service lines from the school, which is more expensive than 800k over the contract term. Interestingly enough, my current company has a solution that can broadcast cellular over wifi infrastructure, but we would need wifi broadcast in the stadium. Ok, so. "Barn fans can attend an Aubie football game and Live-stream a Troy broadcast, Troy fans are limited to watching the Troy Game, except in Stadium Club?? Leave it alone Jack , not worth the $$.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Jul 31, 2023 9:18:33 GMT -6
I work for a primary carrier and have been in this industry for 13 years. Troy was a customer of mine, along with Auburn, Huntington, and Tuskegee. An LTD micro-cell can support about 100-200 simultaneous data sessions. 5G is much more complicated to figure out. One carrier I worked for built lots of infrastructure for Auburn, as Auburn spends a ton on wireless. Troy doesn’t pay much with carriers, especially compared to other schools. Many private HBCUs spend 10x what Troy does on cellular solutions (for various other reasons). I wouldn’t count on VZ and AT&T to support these projects as they are in cost-cutting mode. DAS projects are costly. A solution for the stadium would cost around 600-800k. Private DAS companies offer free solutions for businesses or government entities and then charge the carriers to lease them. Unfortunately, this is more common with venues such as airports with traffic 365 instead of 6 times a year. Cows and Colts (Cell on Wheels and Cell on Light Trucks) will likely not solve this, depending on the backhaul. A Verizon COW is useless after, say, 50 users. These were great solutions in the past, but now that everyone lives streams everything 24/7, they have become less reliable. An active DAS system would cost around 800k. Carriers would do this for free in exchange for a few thousand active service lines from the school, which is more expensive than 800k over the contract term. Interestingly enough, my current company has a solution that can broadcast cellular over wifi infrastructure, but we would need wifi broadcast in the stadium. Ok, so. "Barn fans can attend an Aubie football game and Live-stream a Troy broadcast, Troy fans are limited to watching the Troy Game, except in Stadium Club?? Leave it alone Jack , not worth the $$. It's not just that. I just like even looking at live stats during the games and can't even access those.
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Post by cornhole on Jul 31, 2023 10:40:57 GMT -6
Ok, so. "Barn fans can attend an Aubie football game and Live-stream a Troy broadcast, Troy fans are limited to watching the Troy Game, except in Stadium Club?? Leave it alone Jack , not worth the $$. It's not just that. I just like even looking at live stats during the games and can't even access those. For an $800,000 Tax deductible donation, you can have that.. and More!
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 31, 2023 14:32:25 GMT -6
I really do not need to have better wifi. Although a little frustrating at times it is not a biggey if if if if if if if we could have a few more scores put up nationally. We get a pretty good update on SBC but I like keeping up with other scores as well. kind of the only reason I am trying to use my phone is to check scores. ANDDDDD I do it during NON PLAY TIMES like when the dude with the clock is standing on the field holding up play or during long reviews or or or. That would be my request.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jul 31, 2023 15:18:47 GMT -6
I continuously text my rich friends up in the luxury box from down in the chair back seats. We don't have issues even sharing pictures or videos. As for scores, I use the ESPN app, but I find the scores I care about are generally posted on the horizontal displays between the lower and upper deck. All of that being said, in 5 years, hopefully Starlink will be small enough to replace the button on the top of your ball cap. Like The Beatles say, I got to admit it's getting better. Better all the time.
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Post by trojanocean on Jul 31, 2023 16:36:53 GMT -6
All of this is great information. Thanks for the tech-wise info, mlambertii.
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