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Post by troydadfl on Dec 7, 2021 15:40:56 GMT -6
With the arms race with modern day recruiting and this new generation of athletes and social media, I believe Troy has also has to complete the football facility with a indoor practice facility. This will also indeed attract the 4 and 5 star athletes that would more than like would have went to a traditional power 5 program, the truth these kids the look at that kinda stuff, this generation is all about swag as they call it. I believe a indoor would elevate Troy football facility and image to this generation of top athletes. As a form athlete myself I train and mentor high school athletes, one of the top 3 questions from them is does Troy have a indoor facility. Again this is just my opinion, I wish there was a fund or a plan in place for such facility. What’s your opinion? #OneTROY!!
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Post by Mr E 205 Legion on Dec 7, 2021 16:10:15 GMT -6
With the arms race with modern day recruiting and this new generation of athletes and social media, I believe Troy has also has to complete the football facility with a indoor practice facility. This will also indeed attract the 4 and 5 star athletes that would more than like would have went to a traditional power 5 program, the truth these kids the look at that kinda stuff, this generation is all about swag as they call it. I believe a indoor would elevate Troy football facility and image to this generation of top athletes. As a form athlete myself I train and mentor high school athletes, one of the top 3 questions from them is does Troy have a indoor facility. Again this is just my opinion, I wish there was a fund or a plan in place for such facility. What’s your opinion? #OneTROY!! I am not in the know, but I get the feeling that the Football Excellence Fund is designed to help with “major items” that will further our football program. In MY MIND (maybe I am reading either between the lines OR too much into the idea) at the top of those “major items” IS an indoor practice facility. I suspect there was such a rush to correlate the announcements of FEF & HCJS that some of the clarity we would like will probably be sent out in a follow up announcement. Basically I would guess they think they have shared somethings with us and they haven’t 😀 Here is the announcement: troytrojans.com/news/2021/12/3/troy-establishes-football-excellence-fund.aspx
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Post by biggtroy on Dec 7, 2021 17:54:28 GMT -6
There is a tentative plan that was done when they were designing the North End Zone project. Now just need to find the funds. Needs to be sold as a football AND multi sport indoor practice and training facility. This needs to be a priority so as not to start falling behind in recruiting. I have heard UAB canopy was $5mm, South partially enclosed was $8mm and Coastal new one fully enclosed is $15mm. Just to give you idea of costs for such a project.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 7, 2021 18:47:38 GMT -6
There is a tentative plan that was done when they were designing the North End Zone project. Now just need to find the funds. Needs to be sold as a football AND multi sport indoor practice and training facility. This needs to be a priority so as not to start falling behind in recruiting. I have heard UAB canopy was $5mm, South partially enclosed was $8mm and Coastal new one fully enclosed is $15mm. Just to give you idea of costs for such a project. Yes. It's a VERY expensive project. cornhole has voiced his 2=cents to ADBJ etal. Two rationales come to mind. 1) No asset is worth a dam if the folks aren't involved who can make it valuable. Ie; Saban could win in sandlot football. People a$$ets come first. 2) With relatively limited $$, Troy needs a multi-use facility, year-round utility and location. cornhole suggest to study enclosing the Soccer/Track field for location, and year-round utility. Seasonal conflicts?? Manage it. Thoughts?
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Post by asacarter on Dec 7, 2021 19:00:59 GMT -6
I agree. Also quality counts. South built there's and it collapsed during a storm wasnt even finished if I remember right. If anyone has to go to UAB hospital with any regularity they use the canopy field for soccer too its across from the baseball field. Batting cages are covered in that area. Maybe another use is concerts?
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Post by troydadfl on Dec 7, 2021 19:04:07 GMT -6
There is a tentative plan that was done when they were designing the North End Zone project. Now just need to find the funds. Needs to be sold as a football AND multi sport indoor practice and training facility. This needs to be a priority so as not to start falling behind in recruiting. I have heard UAB canopy was $5mm, South partially enclosed was $8mm and Coastal new one fully enclosed is $15mm. Just to give you idea of costs for such a project. Yes. It's a VERY expensive project. cornhole has voiced his 2=cents to ADBJ etal. Two rationales come to mind. 1) No asset is worth a dam if the folks aren't involved who can make it valuable. Ie; Saban could win in sandlot football. People a$$ets come first. 2) With relatively limited $$, Troy needs a multi-use facility, year-round utility and location. cornhole suggest to study enclosing the Soccer/Track field for location, and year-round utility. Seasonal conflicts?? Manage it. Thoughts? I agree with you, I was thinking it also can be used as a possible storm/Tornado shelter for the community. Either way it would be a great addition to fully complete the football facility. I think it’s a game changer for a program like Troy
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Post by trojan2003 on Dec 7, 2021 20:35:41 GMT -6
Facilities are just basic, “must-haves” these days. For instance, Auburn is currently building its new fancy $95M FB Performance Center (incl. new IPF) and recruits hardly even mention it in interviews. It’s expected but not a real difference maker anymore.
NIL is the new difference maker. Many P5 teams are currently creating new platforms and channeling serious $$ to players. It’s already happening in the SEC, Texas, etc. I am not sure how G5 programs can compete here, however, those G5 programs who manage to find a way will have a major advantage in recruiting vs other G5 and even some P5 schools.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 7, 2021 20:39:56 GMT -6
Facilities are just basic, “must-haves” these days. For instance, Auburn is currently building its new fancy $95M FB Performance Center (incl. new IPF) and recruits hardly even mention it in interviews. It’s expected but not a real difference maker anymore. NIL is the new difference maker. Many P5 teams are currently creating new platforms and channeling serious $$ to players. It’s already happening in the SEC, Texas, etc. I am not sure how G5 programs can compete here, however, those G5 programs who manage to find a way will have a major advantage in recruiting vs other G5 and even some P5 schools. Spot on '03. NIL targets the "What's in it for me?" generation.
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Post by biggtroy on Dec 7, 2021 20:52:37 GMT -6
It will be a challenge for us as we are in such a small market. Some of the other G5 schools in larger metro areas will have greater corporate support and be able to do more NIL stuff.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 7, 2021 20:57:19 GMT -6
I hereby pledge should I win Power Ball and get to keep 100 Million I will give 10% to an indoor facility. So All Of you should pull for me to win power ball!!
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Post by Troy_Fan_15 on Dec 8, 2021 7:57:30 GMT -6
Yes. It's a VERY expensive project. cornhole has voiced his 2=cents to ADBJ etal. Two rationales come to mind. 1) No asset is worth a dam if the folks aren't involved who can make it valuable. Ie; Saban could win in sandlot football. People a$$ets come first. 2) With relatively limited $$, Troy needs a multi-use facility, year-round utility and location. cornhole suggest to study enclosing the Soccer/Track field for location, and year-round utility. Seasonal conflicts?? Manage it. Thoughts? I agree with you, I was thinking it also can be used as a possible storm/Tornado shelter for the community. Either way it would be a great addition to fully complete the football facility. I think it’s a game changer for a program like Troy I agree it’s a game changer. We have an amazing arena and football facility. We have some of the best facilities in the SBC in my opinion. An indoor practice field would be icing on the cake.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 8, 2021 21:34:36 GMT -6
I'm browsing this thread and I see numbers like 5mil. WTF? Can't we do it cheaper... like maybe Amish style? I mean, we need some concrete, some rubber padding, some fake grass, paint, those little pellets that stick to the players... a zamboni, some walls and a roof. Oh some lights and maybe an AC. I'm thinking we hire local and save some bucks? I bet we have to accept bids from some state system where Governor Granny takes a cut.
Edit: We pick up women's hockey and we build a dual purpose arena. The ice under the field would keep it cool.
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Post by scatman on Dec 8, 2021 23:18:07 GMT -6
I'm browsing this thread and I see numbers like 5mil. WTF? Can't we do it cheaper... like maybe Amish style? I mean, we need some concrete, some rubber padding, some fake grass, paint, those little pellets that stick to the players... a zamboni, some walls and a roof. Oh some lights and maybe an AC. I'm thinking we hire local and save some bucks? I bet we have to accept bids from some state system where Governor Granny takes a cut. Edit: We pick up women's hockey and we build a dual purpose arena. The ice under the field would keep it cool. And with womens hockey we have another womens sport to be able to add mens soccer. Win/win.
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Post by mlambertii on Dec 9, 2021 0:39:18 GMT -6
I’ve taken a tour of Alabama’s facilities and ours. Ours are smaller but “nicer”. UAB probably has a better “indoor” field. We can build the Taj Mahal in Gold and decorate it with Mike Hogan’s FFA banners from Chuck High and it won’t matter. Student athletes want climate control.
The Dark Lord, Nick Saban’s facility highlights NFL players and Championships no different than Ours. They just have more…. For now.
I’m in favor. We need a covered practice facility. It isn’t that expensive. Name it for the Porch and let’s move on
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Post by cornhole on Dec 9, 2021 9:34:36 GMT -6
Ante up folks.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 9, 2021 9:41:14 GMT -6
I'm all for that, but how do I convince Troy Alumni that feel like they don't owe Troy anything? I have a couple of Troy (off campus) grads that say that their time at Troy was a business transaction and that is over. They are more than willing to discuss Troy beating LSU but don't feel like they need to contribute.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 9, 2021 9:44:15 GMT -6
Facilities are just basic, “must-haves” these days. For instance, Auburn is currently building its new fancy $95M FB Performance Center (incl. new IPF) and recruits hardly even mention it in interviews. It’s expected but not a real difference maker anymore. NIL is the new difference maker. Many P5 teams are currently creating new platforms and channeling serious $$ to players. It’s already happening in the SEC, Texas, etc. I am not sure how G5 programs can compete here, however, those G5 programs who manage to find a way will have a major advantage in recruiting vs other G5 and even some P5 schools. Mixed emotions on NIL. I understand that some players bring in money for schools and that college football is big business but there is going to be a huge gap between P5 upper teams and G5 and even bigger gap between FBS abd FCS, D2 and D3. The biggest one is going to be between players and reg students. Take UF. I would say 99.9% of the football team could not get into Florida as a general student. Now on top of a free education a stipend they are now making $$$$. While the general student who had to have a 4.0 and about a 1200 SAT to get accepted out of HS graduates with student loan debt
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 9, 2021 9:50:53 GMT -6
Facilities are just basic, “must-haves” these days. For instance, Auburn is currently building its new fancy $95M FB Performance Center (incl. new IPF) and recruits hardly even mention it in interviews. It’s expected but not a real difference maker anymore. NIL is the new difference maker. Many P5 teams are currently creating new platforms and channeling serious $$ to players. It’s already happening in the SEC, Texas, etc. I am not sure how G5 programs can compete here, however, those G5 programs who manage to find a way will have a major advantage in recruiting vs other G5 and even some P5 schools. Mixed emotions on NIL. I understand that some players bring in money for schools and that college football is big business but there is going to be a huge gap between P5 upper teams and G5 and even bigger gap between FBS abd FCS, D2 and D3. The biggest one is going to be between players and reg students. Take UF. I would say 99.9% of the football team could not get into Florida as a general student. Now on top of a free education a stipend they are now making $$$$. While the general student who had to have a 4.0 and about a 1200 SAT to get accepted out of HS graduates with student loan debt It's the market and how it works. I am curious if Alabama can compete with a full arms race against the money schools. I mean if the Ivy League wanted to buy a team of 5 stars, they could... until the Texas oil money schools open their wallets. It's a new world my friend.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 9, 2021 9:58:48 GMT -6
I'm all for that, but how do I convince Troy Alumni that feel like they don't owe Troy anything? I have a couple of Troy (off campus) grads that say that their time at Troy was a business transaction and that is over. They are more than willing to discuss Troy beating LSU but don't feel like they need to contribute. Some folks just don't "get it". Never will. Another friend of ours never stepped foot on campus for a grad degree while in the Armed Forces. He rarely misses home football games and is a regular contributor to the Trojan Warrior Fund.
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 9, 2021 10:05:37 GMT -6
I'm all for that, but how do I convince Troy Alumni that feel like they don't owe Troy anything? I have a couple of Troy (off campus) grads that say that their time at Troy was a business transaction and that is over. They are more than willing to discuss Troy beating LSU but don't feel like they need to contribute. Well the only thing worse than those types are the, can you hook me up with some tickets people? The ones that spect four years on campus but won’t even buy tickets.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 9, 2021 12:50:59 GMT -6
I'm all for that, but how do I convince Troy Alumni that feel like they don't owe Troy anything? I have a couple of Troy (off campus) grads that say that their time at Troy was a business transaction and that is over. They are more than willing to discuss Troy beating LSU but don't feel like they need to contribute. Well the only thing worse than those types are the, can you hook me up with some tickets people? The ones that spect four years on campus but won’t even buy tickets. But will pay $150 to go watch Bama
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 9, 2021 15:10:51 GMT -6
Well the only thing worse than those types are the, can you hook me up with some tickets people? The ones that spect four years on campus but won’t even buy tickets. But will pay $150 to go watch Bama Yeah that pissed me off. Troy degree on the wall and Bama shirt on their back. WTF?
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Post by trojan2003 on Dec 9, 2021 15:39:20 GMT -6
Facilities are just basic, “must-haves” these days. For instance, Auburn is currently building its new fancy $95M FB Performance Center (incl. new IPF) and recruits hardly even mention it in interviews. It’s expected but not a real difference maker anymore. NIL is the new difference maker. Many P5 teams are currently creating new platforms and channeling serious $$ to players. It’s already happening in the SEC, Texas, etc. I am not sure how G5 programs can compete here, however, those G5 programs who manage to find a way will have a major advantage in recruiting vs other G5 and even some P5 schools. Mixed emotions on NIL. I understand that some players bring in money for schools and that college football is big business but there is going to be a huge gap between P5 upper teams and G5 and even bigger gap between FBS abd FCS, D2 and D3. The biggest one is going to be between players and reg students. Take UF. I would say 99.9% of the football team could not get into Florida as a general student. Now on top of a free education a stipend they are now making $$$$. While the general student who had to have a 4.0 and about a 1200 SAT to get accepted out of HS graduates with student loan debt Auburn, Florida St and some other programs are now launching new platforms where you can subscribe to their athletes. You basically subscribe to a sports, position group, or individual player. You pay a monthly fee of $25-$1,000 and receive autographs, fan packages, phone calls, etc in exchange. (Troy should copy this model). Some other schools have first-mover advantages: Arkansas already has completed 300 NIL deals. UVA and NC State signed lots of Olympic swimmers this year. NC State just landed the #1 PG in the nation. Texas just announced they have a NIL fund which will guarantee $50,000/year to each OL on their roster. Washington’s new independent NIL agency is backed by Amazon, Microsoft, Costco, and Alaska Airlines.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 9, 2021 15:54:05 GMT -6
Mixed emotions on NIL. I understand that some players bring in money for schools and that college football is big business but there is going to be a huge gap between P5 upper teams and G5 and even bigger gap between FBS abd FCS, D2 and D3. The biggest one is going to be between players and reg students. Take UF. I would say 99.9% of the football team could not get into Florida as a general student. Now on top of a free education a stipend they are now making $$$$. While the general student who had to have a 4.0 and about a 1200 SAT to get accepted out of HS graduates with student loan debt Auburn, Florida St and some other programs are now launching new platforms where you can subscribe to their athletes. You basically subscribe to a sports, position group, or individual player. You pay a monthly fee of $25-$1,000 and receive autographs, fan packages, phone calls, etc in exchange. (Troy should copy this model). Some other schools have first-mover advantages: Arkansas already has completed 300 NIL deals. UVA and NC State signed lots of Olympic swimmers this year. NC State just landed the #1 PG in the nation. Texas just announced they have a NIL fund which will guarantee $50,000/year to each OL on their roster. Washington’s new independent NIL agency is backed by Amazon, Microsoft, Costco, and Alaska Airlines. I don't think I would be comfortable being like a sugar daddy to a football player. It feels a bit creepy.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 9, 2021 17:01:27 GMT -6
Texas just announced that a Non Profit has been started that is going to pay offensive lineman $50,000. And so it begins. And they thought the boosters were bad at SMU
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