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Post by Trojan Warrior on Apr 30, 2014 10:32:47 GMT -6
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Post by Nohuddlebone on Apr 30, 2014 19:44:37 GMT -6
Pathetic how far Troy has fallen. We aren't even a thought on anybody's mind any more
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Post by Trojan Warrior on May 1, 2014 12:32:53 GMT -6
Pathetic how far Troy has fallen. We aren't even a thought on anybody's mind any more Most share your frustration. After all, considering the last eight years…we have only won the conference championship five times.
What’s pathetic is the fact that we have over 100,000 alumni and only ~900 Trojan Warriors that actively contribute $$$ to the athletic program.
The dynamics on the field will change significantly this year. How will that impact the season? Who knows? I can assure you that I will always be there to support the team!
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Post by Hemi Man on May 1, 2014 18:32:13 GMT -6
I share your frustration in that area. I think some of it is do to people not being aware of the Trojan Warrior Fund. However, I also get the feeling that some people want Troy to be the best possible, as long as they don't have to reach into their pockets to fund it. Where Troy is right now, I think we need all hands on deck to get this athletic department to be where we all hope to see it in the next few years. Whether it's at the $100 level or the $1,000,000 level every one of us is important to the growth of the Troy Trojans!
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Post by Troystet on May 4, 2014 17:40:27 GMT -6
Here is the alumni problem. Almost 10% of the students at Troy (Troy campus) are foreign students who will probably never give a dime. We list 28,000 students in the Troy system with only 7,200 at Troy. Take away the 600 plus foreign students that leaves roughly 6,600. Of that only a smaller percentage stay to graduate. The rest of the students in the Troy system are branch students which tend to be older and military who usually are getting a masters and who graduated elsewhere. The real challenge is how to connect to the 70% of students not at the main campus?
I really believe Troy pride is much better than it was in the 80's when I was there. The key is winning over parents of current students, connections with recent grads, and winning over alumni gone for 10 plus years. Getting into an arms race with bigger, better funded schools such As ULL, ASU, Georgia Southern and even Appalachian St. Is tough for us. Got to get creative for sure. I don't like the doing more with less statement either but in a way it is a fact at Troy. We have a smaller alumni base, the smallest main campus enrollment in the Sun Belt, a small town etc. We can't win in an arms race, what we can do is sell what we have....tradition, great facilities, beautiful campus, one of the best bands in the country and a friendly, great fan base for a school our size. Keep reaching out to alumni and donors and keep instilling pride and the duty to give back to our current students.
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Post by doug4troy on May 4, 2014 19:15:44 GMT -6
I am a branch campus alumnus... And so is the membership of one of the most active alumni chapters around (Emerald Coast). Don't count us out.
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Post by Troystet on May 4, 2014 19:57:24 GMT -6
Emerald Coast Chapter is great, you do a lot for Troy. I have the utmost respect for supporters who did not go to the main campus and even more to those who support it with no ties to the school. I know two especially that go above and beyond in their time and support. I wish I could take a more of a time support but the logistics of how far away I am does not work. I try to attend every home game, fan day, football night ( when I can), and T-Day. I appreciate all the alumni and supporters in AL and the panhandle that do make the baseball and basketball games.
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Post by Hemi Man on May 5, 2014 6:55:20 GMT -6
Here is the alumni problem. Almost 10% of the students at Troy (Troy campus) are foreign students who will probably never give a dime. We list 28,000 students in the Troy system with only 7,200 at Troy. Take away the 600 plus foreign students that leaves roughly 6,600. Of that only a smaller percentage stay to graduate. The rest of the students in the Troy system are branch students which tend to be older and military who usually are getting a masters and who graduated elsewhere. The real challenge is how to connect to the 70% of students not at the main campus? I really believe Troy pride is much better than it was in the 80's when I was there. The key is winning over parents of current students, connections with recent grads, and winning over alumni gone for 10 plus years. Getting into an arms race with bigger, better funded schools such As ULL, ASU, Georgia Southern and even Appalachian St. Is tough for us. Got to get creative for sure. I don't like the doing more with less statement either but in a way it is a fact at Troy. We have a smaller alumni base, the smallest main campus enrollment in the Sun Belt, a small town etc. We can't win in an arms race, what we can do is sell what we have....tradition, great facilities, beautiful campus, one of the best bands in the country and a friendly, great fan base for a school our size. Keep reaching out to alumni and donors and keep instilling pride and the duty to give back to our current students. I am a branch campus alumnus... And so is the membership of one of the most active alumni chapters around (Emerald Coast). Don't count us out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Emerald Coast Chapter is great, you do a lot for Troy. I have the utmost respect for supporters who did not go to the main campus and even more to those who support it with no ties to the school. I know two especially that go above and beyond in their time and support. I wish I could take a more of a time support but the logistics of how far away I am does not work. I try to attend every home game, fan day, football night ( when I can), and T-Day. I appreciate all the alumni and supporters in AL and the panhandle that do make the baseball and basketball games. I think you both bring up excellent points. The size of our graduating classes every year is the main reason why I feel it's so important to engage everyone and have everyone giving back. While I do agree that there are many at the branch campuses that will probably never give Troy athletics a second thought, I can think of three right now that are very active in Troy athletics. All three of those are involved in three different alumni chapters. I know one of them personally goes above and beyond to introduce new people to Troy. I make it a point to try an invite new people, provide tickets, and tailgate for them if possible. If they enjoy their experience and come back I start selling them on season tickets and then the Warrior Fund. It's a slow process, but it's the only one I can work to bring new people in. I'm personally in favor of a student athletic fee of $40 that's gets a student in to all events. With an option of $30 to become a student Trojan Warrior. The $40 would be a requirement on the main campus and an option at local satellite campuses. I'm sure the idea would be met with a lot of opposition, but by giving away your product you are devaluing it in my opinion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Troystet on May 5, 2014 8:17:11 GMT -6
There currently is a $25-$35 a credit hour student activity fee per semester that is said to be for that exact same thing you mentioned. At $25 per hour for 14 hour load is $350. Might be hard to add another $40? I think the fee is higher than $25 now also. I have a student at Troy but her scholarships cover almost everything.
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Post by Hemi Man on May 5, 2014 11:18:25 GMT -6
There currently is a $25-$35 a credit hour student activity fee per semester that is said to be for that exact same thing you mentioned. At $25 per hour for 14 hour load is $350. Might be hard to add another $40? I think the fee is higher than $25 now also. I have a student at Troy but her scholarships cover almost everything. I may be totally wrong but I thought the student activity fee was related directly to this. trojan.troy.edu/studentactivities/recreationalfacilities.htmlIf they are also including entrance to all sporting events for students I would think some of that money would go to the athletic department. That may well be happening. I'm not real sure about all that stuff. I was thinking something along the lines of what Texas Tech does here. www.texastech.com/tickets/student-tkts.htmlSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Troystet on May 5, 2014 13:43:22 GMT -6
At Impact they told us it went to both, that it entitled the student to free admission to all athletic events. Now that might be true or it could be Troy chooses this and the fee goes to the rec center. If true, Troy isn't getting much bang for the dollar because the student fitness center is not great. There is plans to turn Sartain into the student fitness center so that is another project that will take resources away from the field house, although it is needed.
The problem with the student activity fee is the enrollment. It doesn't generate enough income. If you put a $100 fee on each student at the main campus it generates $720,000. That is a lot but if you do the same thing at ULL you generate roughly $2,000,000 at UF $3,600,000 and say UCF $6,200,000.
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Post by Hemi Man on May 5, 2014 17:24:23 GMT -6
At Impact they told us it went to both, that it entitled the student to free admission to all athletic events. Now that might be true or it could be Troy chooses this and the fee goes to the rec center. If true, Troy isn't getting much bang for the dollar because the student fitness center is not great. There is plans to turn Sartain into the student fitness center so that is another project that will take resources away from the field house, although it is needed. The problem with the student activity fee is the enrollment. It doesn't generate enough income. If you put a $100 fee on each student at the main campus it generates $720,000. That is a lot but if you do the same thing at ULL you generate roughly $2,000,000 at UF $3,600,000 and say UCF $6,200,000. Actually they are getting a good deal for use of the fitness center, pools, courts, and fields. That's a very good deal. After reading that I think it's almost a necessity that a student ticket fee be enacted and go directly to athletics. So instead of imposing the fee and make an extra $500,000 of pure profit, you think it's a waste of time? I'm all for it starting in the Fall if possible. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Troystet on May 5, 2014 18:32:35 GMT -6
Definetely don't think it's a waste of time. My point was it won't generate the same income as a larger school that does the same thing. $700,000 would help no question. It would be better if we could tack $100 to all 28,000 in the system but I don't see that happening. That would generate $2,800,000.
if it helps I am for it. I would like to see all of it go to the field house. Once that is built we are in great shape facility wise.
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Post by Hemi Man on May 5, 2014 20:07:10 GMT -6
Definetely don't think it's a waste of time. My point was it won't generate the same income as a larger school that does the same thing. $700,000 would help no question. It would be better if we could tack $100 to all 28,000 in the system but I don't see that happening. That would generate $2,800,000. if it helps I am for it. I would like to see all of it go to the field house. Once that is built we are in great shape facility wise. I just think it's something that's worth looking into, even if it only raised an extra $200,000. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by trojanbrutha on May 9, 2014 6:38:51 GMT -6
Definetely don't think it's a waste of time. My point was it won't generate the same income as a larger school that does the same thing. $700,000 would help no question. It would be better if we could tack $100 to all 28,000 in the system but I don't see that happening. That would generate $2,800,000. if it helps I am for it. I would like to see all of it go to the field house. Once that is built we are in great shape facility wise. I'll have to go back and check, but I believe the Montgomery campus paid an athletics fee, at one point. I know they had started have activities, cheerleaders, a few players, etc. at satellite campuses around HC as well...
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