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Post by trojan2003 on Jan 15, 2019 5:55:28 GMT -6
Watch out for Jacob Free. He will compete for the starting job for sure.
(The HC we don’t speak of) recruited him while in HS (he also recruited Sawyer Smith a bit). We also have new receivers coming in... which might be a factor.
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Post by Cane Gone Trojan on Jan 15, 2019 9:39:49 GMT -6
I will be surprised if Jacob Free wins the starting QB position at Troy next year.
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Post by Trojan Warrior on Jan 15, 2019 11:13:59 GMT -6
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Post by Cane Gone Trojan on Jan 15, 2019 12:01:49 GMT -6
Any film of him under pressure or scrambling/running for a 50 + yard TD?
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Post by cornhole on Jan 15, 2019 12:55:58 GMT -6
I will be surprised if Jacob Free wins the starting QB position at Troy next year. Nothing should surprise us this coming season. No favorites to play going in. CCL's bailiwick is QB'S. Competition helps. Wasn't too many years ago a Troy record setting QB sat third string on the bench as the "favorites" got the nod. History will show that Levi Brown proved himself when he got the chance!
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Post by doc71 on Jan 15, 2019 14:13:19 GMT -6
If Barker comes back healthy ... hard to beat. Those last several games he was really good! His passing accuracy/consistency/arm strength really set him apart from Smith. Of course his speed/athleticism help too! But if Sawyer improves ... and if Free and the young bucks are as advertised ... should be fun Spring!! From the video I've seen .. Free has a legit next level arm. Saw him in a clip standing with (The HC we don’t speak of) ... he's a big kid ... and pretty athletic too! Not too many bad options in this bunch!!
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Post by cornhole on Jan 15, 2019 14:57:38 GMT -6
Watch out for Jacob Free. He will compete for the starting job for sure. (The HC we don’t speak of) recruited him while in HS (he also recruited Sawyer Smith a bit). We also have new receivers coming in... which might be a factor. It's likely very positive that CCL has meet and recruited these young QB's all over Alabama. Should be great for future recruiting.
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Post by Cane Gone Trojan on Jan 15, 2019 15:52:01 GMT -6
I will be surprised if Jacob Free wins the starting QB position at Troy next year. Nothing should surprise us this coming season. No favorites to play going in. CCL's bailiwick is QB'S. Competition helps. Wasn't too many years ago a Troy record setting QB sat third string on the bench as the "favorites" got the nod. History will show that Levi Brown proved himself when he got the chance! No Doubt. Things can happen to make way for the Levi Browns and Kerwin Bells of college football to get that opportunity, but given a healthy Barker or Brown, I see one of these QB's winning the starting job, and I would be surprised if they are beat out by any other QB's on the Troy roster. I will say this though...if they are both beat out then Troy will have one the best offenses in Troy history and in the country next year.jmo
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Post by chattvalleytrojan on Jan 15, 2019 16:05:10 GMT -6
Nothing should surprise us this coming season. No favorites to play going in. CCL's bailiwick is QB'S. Competition helps. Wasn't too many years ago a Troy record setting QB sat third string on the bench as the "favorites" got the nod. History will show that Levi Brown proved himself when he got the chance! No Doubt. Things can happen to make way for the Levi Browns and Kerwin Bells of college football to get that opportunity, but given a healthy Barker or Brown, I see one of these QB's winning the starting job, and I would be surprised if they are beat out by any other QB's on the Troy roster. I will say this though...if they are both beat out then Troy will have one the best offenses in Troy history and in the country next year.jmo Of the returning guys my ranking is Sawyer, KB(if doesn't red shirt) and Gunnar. I have Free above Screws just because of experience.
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Post by Troystet on Jan 15, 2019 16:42:14 GMT -6
I want the best qb to play. I don't care if he's a true freshman or been here three years. I want to see a coach with the balls to start a true freshman if hes the best..like Frost and Dabo did. Play the best...period!!
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Post by joshboutwell on Jan 15, 2019 17:44:27 GMT -6
I will be surprised if Jacob Free wins the starting QB position at Troy next year. I will not.
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Post by pctrojan16 on Jan 16, 2019 13:14:37 GMT -6
We have one of the best QB rooms in the country. Anyone can win and lead with the right preparation. SS made a believer out of me this season, KB will be back better hopefully. I saw Free play in HS, kid can sling it. Screws is just a winner. Either way we will be good
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jan 18, 2019 17:57:27 GMT -6
Troy has been recruiting the daylights out of the QB position this whole decade and beyond. NB comes in and his 1st recruit leaves after the spring because he doesn't want to sit and learn behind Silvers. Dude was in the Heisman conversation. Not every one will stay, but iron sharpens iron. QB is not a worry of mine.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jan 18, 2019 20:10:24 GMT -6
Troy has been recruiting the daylights out of the QB position this whole decade and beyond. NB comes in and his 1st recruit leaves after the spring because he doesn't want to sit and learn behind Silvers. Dude was in the Heisman conversation. Not every one will stay, but iron sharpens iron. QB is not a worry of mine. I have said it so many times. I wonder how some If these teams from LSU to Florida to Miami feel when teams like Troy have 2-3 QB’s better than theirs? We have done an extraordinary job at recruiting QB’s. I doubt all will stay with Screws, Watson, Smith and Free let alone Barker are all here. Going to be interesting.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jan 18, 2019 20:31:16 GMT -6
Can we design a 3 QB backfield?
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Post by doc71 on Jan 18, 2019 20:35:20 GMT -6
Can we design a 3 QB backfield? We can go with the old Notre Dame box!
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Jan 18, 2019 20:41:35 GMT -6
One small note... A large reason for Kaleb's success was the coaching staff's willingness to let him run wild. When Sawyer was a backup, his run packages were used more often. When he was "the" guy, and there was no clear #2, Sawyer's run packages diminished significantly. He had some great games, one being the bowl game for sure. I can't help but think some of his lower scoring games could have been helped by running the QB more often. (The HC we don’t speak of)'s success with either QB could depend on his ability to utilize their dual threat abilities. Not saying they, or Free, couldn't light it up as a pocket passer, but being able to run has kept a lot of defenses off balance.
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Post by trojan2003 on Jan 19, 2019 4:00:31 GMT -6
Also, Sawyer played with a broken rib and most targets were injured...
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Post by doc71 on Jan 19, 2019 8:18:28 GMT -6
Sawyer is without a doubt to tough kid and solid QB/Athlete. I had chance to watch a few Spring sessions last year. The difference between Sawyer and Kaleb is passing consistency. I mentioned then, Kaleb really "spins" it ... not matter the weather (rain, wind, etc) he consistently gets the ball where he wants it to be. Sawyer is plenty strong ... but has a bit of a push in his technique. So, every few balls "flutters" a bit ... especially into the wind. You could see ... he'd throw a couple really nice long balls ... then there'd be a couple that would come up short. Sometimes the WR could adjust and come back to the ball (Whittemore twice at GA Sou for instance) ... but other times not (like the play in the bowl where Willis was a couple yards behind the defender and had to come back for ball ... everyone yelled for interference, but Willis had to go through the defender to get to the ball) So, unless he changes his technique and improves the consistency ... just don't see how he beats out a healthy Kaleb. Haven't seen Fee or Screws in person ... but if you watched the scrimmages/practices ... Kaleb I think was pretty clearly the #1 QB heading into the season. Just my opinion of course. But I can't wait to see the competition. As someone wrote before ... lot's of schools in the country would love to have this "problem"!!
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Post by psychotrojan07 on Jan 19, 2019 8:44:15 GMT -6
It’ll be interesting to see if someone transfers out after a starter is named or after the first 4 games. Seems like transferring has been a hot topic lately and is trending upwards. I hope we can keep both SS and KB as they both seem to be good, talented people. I also would totally understand if KB is named QB1 and SS decides to transfer (or vice versa).
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Post by cornhole on Jan 19, 2019 8:50:34 GMT -6
It’ll be interesting to see if someone transfers out after a starter is named or after the first 4 games. Seems like transferring has been a hot topic lately and is trending upwards. I hope we can keep both SS and KB as they both seem to be good, talented people. I also would totally understand if KB is named QB1 and SS decides to transfer (or vice versa). all cornhole hear on sport pundit radio this week about nCAA$ free agency
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Post by trojan2003 on Jan 19, 2019 9:40:56 GMT -6
Sawyer can be developed, esp with (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) being our HC/OC now. He developed both Nick Mullens and Hutson Mason. I think (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) is a top QB coach + he will be supported by Cole Weeks. XCNB might be the better playcaller/offensive mind but (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) seems to be the better (QB) coach.
I like Sawyers deep balls - those are deadly. Free seems to be the better passer overall, but he is not quite as mobile as Barker and Smith. But he will compete, he is smart and has the best arm out of the bunch... I think whoever will be the starter next season, will do great things for us.
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Jan 19, 2019 9:42:53 GMT -6
Sawyer can be developed, esp with (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) being our HC/OC now. He developed both Nick Mullens and Hutson Mason. I think (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) is a top QB coach + he will be supported by Cole Weeks. XCNB might be the better playcaller/offensive mind but (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) seems to be the better (QB) coach. I like Sawyers deep balls - they are deadly. Free seems to be the better passer overall, but he is not quite as mobile as Barker and Smith. But he will compete, he is smart and has the best arm out of the bunch... I think whoever will be the starter next season, will do great things for us. ...and NOBODY talking about Gunner Watson, who, IAW a previous coach, is THE BEST QB of the bunch!!!
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Post by ksdtrojan on Jan 19, 2019 11:34:50 GMT -6
Gunnar Watson Jacob Free Gavin Screws Kaleb Barker Sawyer Smith
What a line up of QBs for spring competition? I'm guessing Gavin will potentially redshirt. So that's 4 gunslingers who will battle it out for the #1 spot. Exciting!!!
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Post by joshboutwell on Jan 19, 2019 18:31:24 GMT -6
Sawyer can be developed, esp with (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) being our HC/OC now. He developed both Nick Mullens and Hutson Mason. I think (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) is a top QB coach + he will be supported by Cole Weeks. XCNB might be the better playcaller/offensive mind but (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of) seems to be the better (QB) coach. I like Sawyers deep balls - they are deadly. Free seems to be the better passer overall, but he is not quite as mobile as Barker and Smith. But he will compete, he is smart and has the best arm out of the bunch... I think whoever will be the starter next season, will do great things for us. ...and NOBODY talking about Gunner Watson, who, IAW a previous coach, is THE BEST QB of the bunch!!! Honestly, I agree. Every practice/scrimmage I went to he stood out. Dude is massive, too. Legit 6-4, 215 or somewhere in that range. Same with Free. Both of those guys have that NFL prototypical size and arm strength. I would say that Free can do more of what (The HC we don’t speak of) typically wants with the dual threat stuff than Watson, though and the dual threat stuff is why I think Barker (along with everything he did last year before the injury) is why I'm giving him the edge. I would not be surprised at all if any of the others end up winning that spot.
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