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Post by Mr E 205 Legion on Nov 20, 2018 12:08:20 GMT -6
JUST BREATHE people! Read this nice article from Dothan Eagle while you are practicing your breathing exercises Come Saturday I expect to cry HAVOC and see POSITIVE results !!!
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 20, 2018 12:51:24 GMT -6
I just don't see how this doesn't define the season. The goal is to win the conference. That is at stake, kind of confused why everyone who speaks emphasizes that. I heard that also. It’s interesting, most coaches at this level (and even those at lower levels define the season in wins/championships. Everyone is different, some define success if everyone gets to play, some define success if they enjoy the stadium experience regardless of the score, some define success on how well the SOTS sounds at halftime, while others define success if the tailgate is well excuted or if they don’t get yelled at for standing the whole game. Yes, the goal of suiting up and playing the season (every season) is to win the championship. Whether you win the championship or not does not define the “success” of the season. What CNB is saying is even a 4-8 season can be defined as “successful”, depending on ones perspective. Actually what he is setting up is brilliant, if he loses he has laid the foundation that the hill was just too high to climb, be grateful (and give me a contract extension). If he wins, he is the coach that defied all odds and won, so Power 5 program give me your HC job. Tip of the hat Coach ! You are better than I thought. Impressive.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Nov 20, 2018 12:53:44 GMT -6
Its going to be the Douglas and Willis show while the V Defense plays lights out again.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 20, 2018 12:55:47 GMT -6
Judging a team off of one game in a season that’s twelve to fourteen games makes little to no sense at all. It’s like putting a slab of ribs on the smoker for ten minutes, eating them, and then deciding ribs aren’t good. Wait, you smoke ribs for more than 10 minutes? They are twice as tender at 20 minutes.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 20, 2018 12:58:35 GMT -6
I just don't see how this doesn't define the season. The goal is to win the conference. That is at stake, kind of confused why everyone who speaks emphasizes that. I heard that also. It’s interesting, most coaches at this level (and even those at lower levels define the season in wins/championships. Everyone is different, some define success if everyone gets to play, some define success if they enjoy the stadium experience regardless of the score, some define success on how well the SOTS sounds at halftime, while others define success if the tailgate is well excuted or if they don’t get yelled at for standing the whole game. Yes, the goal of suiting up and playing the season (every season) is to win the championship. Whether you win the championship or not does not define the “success” of the season. What CNB is saying is even a 4-8 season can be defined as “successful”, depending on ones perspective. Actually what he is setting up is brilliant, if he loses he has laid the foundation that the hill was just too high to climb, be grateful (and give me a contract extension). If he wins, he is the coach that defied all odds and won, so Power 5 program give me your HC job. Tip of the hat Coach ! You are better than I thought. Impressive. Well I’m sure Neal will sleep better at night knowing he has impressed you.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 20, 2018 13:06:34 GMT -6
I just don't see how this doesn't define the season. The goal is to win the conference. That is at stake, kind of confused why everyone who speaks emphasizes that. If this team went 9-3 on the regular season would you consider that a failure? With all the suspensions and injuries would 9-3 be a failure? Failed to win the championship? Yes. Failure on the season? Absolutely not. Regardless of how the rest of the season turns out this will be the best coaching job yet by this staff.
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Post by jonesoxygen on Nov 20, 2018 13:14:26 GMT -6
I just don't see how this doesn't define the season. The goal is to win the conference. That is at stake, kind of confused why everyone who speaks emphasizes that. If this team went 9-3 on the regular season would you consider that a failure? With all the suspensions and injuries would 9-3 be a failure? Failed to win the championship? Yes. Failure on the season? Absolutely not. Regardless of how the rest of the season turns out this will be the best coaching job yet by this staff. I agree 100%, had we gone 6-6 after losing the players we lost, I'd still be impressed. Instead we are sitting at 9-2 with the "band-aid bunch", by far CNB's best coaching job. Just a reminder, from the opening game to this weekend we were without: Starting QB (ACL) Starting RB (no longer on team) 3 - Starting WR's (1 transfer, 2 injured) Starting TE (gone?) Starting DB / KR / PR (Marcus "Slash" Jones) Starting Offensive and Defensive Linemen have missed multiple games during this span
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 20, 2018 13:15:59 GMT -6
I heard that also. It’s interesting, most coaches at this level (and even those at lower levels define the season in wins/championships. Everyone is different, some define success if everyone gets to play, some define success if they enjoy the stadium experience regardless of the score, some define success on how well the SOTS sounds at halftime, while others define success if the tailgate is well excuted or if they don’t get yelled at for standing the whole game. Yes, the goal of suiting up and playing the season (every season) is to win the championship. Whether you win the championship or not does not define the “success” of the season. What CNB is saying is even a 4-8 season can be defined as “successful”, depending on ones perspective. Actually what he is setting up is brilliant, if he loses he has laid the foundation that the hill was just too high to climb, be grateful (and give me a contract extension). If he wins, he is the coach that defied all odds and won, so Power 5 program give me your HC job. Tip of the hat Coach ! You are better than I thought. Impressive. Well I’m sure Neal will sleep better at night knowing he has impressed you. He is and he has been very appreciative. He is a smart coach and will continue to do well. My grandchildren and his kids have had a ball together. Oh and It’s that time again........
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Post by startedasredwave on Nov 20, 2018 13:20:09 GMT -6
Fire him and the AD they suck. Can't believe I sat through so many games this season for nothing. Sarcasm button Are you the long lost 3rd Dodwell?? While the possibility exists I haven't been around long enough for it to be Jones.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Nov 20, 2018 14:06:19 GMT -6
Well I’m sure Neal will sleep better at night knowing he has impressed you. He is and he has been very appreciative. He is a smart coach and will continue to do well. My grandchildren and his kids have had a ball together. Oh and It’s that time again........ You have grandchildren? DT pegged you to be 21 maybe 22.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 20, 2018 15:31:34 GMT -6
Boise beat us down bad. We weren't a team. Somehow these men have come together to become a team. It didn't look good for us just after the clock struck 0. Judging a team off of one game in a season that’s twelve to fourteen games makes little to no sense at all. It’s like putting a slab of ribs on the smoker for ten minutes, eating them, and then deciding ribs aren’t good. I get what you are saying, but I wouldn't say we met the definition of team for the Boise game. So different between now and then. These men should be proud of themselves.
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 21, 2018 6:41:22 GMT -6
He is and he has been very appreciative. He is a smart coach and will continue to do well. My grandchildren and his kids have had a ball together. Oh and It’s that time again........ You have grandchildren? DT pegged you to be 21 maybe 22. LOL. Ha, nah I just come on here as a release from the day to day pressures of life to talk about the Trojan program I love. Sometimes serious, sometimes to pull peoples chain in jest. I’m passionate about the Trojans, realizing sometimes posting opinions not every one handle. But it’s all fun. Been watching/following Trojan football seriously for 30+ years now since I set foot on campus. Saw the great Mike Turk in his last year, Saw the start of CLB program, yes saw and try forget the J. Rowell pick in the end zone in the playoffs against GSU, saw some greats: the great AL Lucas (RIP), Betterson, Ware, Osi, etc. Saw Steve Air McNair play on our field. Saw us beat MSU, it flooded. Missed the Missouri game, but saw the Ok St game where the great Leoidis M. dominated. The best bowl game for me was one of our first, the NO bowl against Rice or North Texas, the one where Omar H. put on a show. Man I could go on but getting emotional. Go Troy.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 21, 2018 8:19:03 GMT -6
Succesful season can be interpreted many ways. If we beat App St Sat and go 10-2 winning the East and then lose to Ark St is it still a success? If we lose to App St and finish 9-3 is it still a success? If we win it all but lose the bowl game is it still a success? Do we have to win out including the bowl game to be a success? If you have a winning record but don't win the conference is it a successful season? If you lose the bowl game is it a successful season? I guess it's how you interpret success
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Nov 21, 2018 9:35:11 GMT -6
Succesful season can be interpreted many ways. If we beat App St Sat and go 10-2 winning the East and then lose to Ark St is it still a success? If we lose to App St and finish 9-3 is it still a success? If we win it all but lose the bowl game is it still a success? Do we have to win out including the bowl game to be a success? If you have a winning record but don't win the conference is it a successful season? If you lose the bowl game is it a successful season? I guess it's how you interpret success You’re correct in the assertion that success is open to interpretation. As is true for anyone who is successful, goals are set, results evaluated, changes made as needed, then new goals are set. If one believes success is achieved only when the ultimate goal is reached continually, then one will always consider himself a failure. No one ever finishes on top 100% of the time. If your goal, as an auto dealer, is to be the top dealer in the state every year and one year you finish second but turn a record profit, you would likely consider that year to be successful, though disappointing. Be careful not to set standards for others that are so lofty you can’t reach them yourself.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 21, 2018 9:53:43 GMT -6
Succesful season can be interpreted many ways. If we beat App St Sat and go 10-2 winning the East and then lose to Ark St is it still a success? If we lose to App St and finish 9-3 is it still a success? If we win it all but lose the bowl game is it still a success? Do we have to win out including the bowl game to be a success? If you have a winning record but don't win the conference is it a successful season? If you lose the bowl game is it a successful season? I guess it's how you interpret success You’re correct in the assertion that success is open to interpretation. As is true for anyone who is successful, goals are set, results evaluated, changes made as needed, then new goals are set. If one believes success is achieved only when the ultimate goal is reached continually, then one will always consider himself a failure. No one ever finishes on top 100% of the time. If your goal, as an auto dealer, is to be the top dealer in the state every year and one year you finish second but turn a record profit, you would likely consider that year to be successful, though disappointing. Be careful not to set standards for others that are so lofty you can’t reach them yourself. 100% agree. I once had a coach tell us " We strive for perfection..knowing that is impossible but while striving for perfection we will achieve greatness" Strive for a perfect season every season knowing that its not attainable every season but in doing that you achieve 10-2, 11-1 and even 12-0 in the right season. Personally for me if we finish 9-3 I would call it a successful season that fell just short of the ultimate goal. Let's not forget 2011-14 where we would have killed to be 9-3 or 10-2
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 21, 2018 10:00:40 GMT -6
You’re correct in the assertion that success is open to interpretation. As is true for anyone who is successful, goals are set, results evaluated, changes made as needed, then new goals are set. If one believes success is achieved only when the ultimate goal is reached continually, then one will always consider himself a failure. No one ever finishes on top 100% of the time. If your goal, as an auto dealer, is to be the top dealer in the state every year and one year you finish second but turn a record profit, you would likely consider that year to be successful, though disappointing. Be careful not to set standards for others that are so lofty you can’t reach them yourself. 100% agree. I once had a coach tell us " We strive for perfection..knowing that is impossible but while striving for perfection we will achieve greatness" Strive for a perfect season every season knowing that its not attainable every season but in doing that you achieve 10-2, 11-1 and even 12-0 in the right season. Personally for me if we finish 9-3 I would call it a successful season that fell just short of the ultimate goal. Let's not forget 2011-14 where we would have killed to be 9-3 or 10-2 I couldn’t agree more.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Nov 21, 2018 10:16:40 GMT -6
You have grandchildren? DT pegged you to be 21 maybe 22. the Ok St game where the great Leoidis M. dominated. The best bowl game for me was one of our first, the NO bowl against Rice or North Texas, the one where Omar H. put on a show. Man I could go on but getting emotional.
Ok St. and Rice stick out in my mind also. There would have been no Rice without the comeback vs the MUTS too. The Omar days were a blast!
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 21, 2018 15:57:41 GMT -6
the Ok St game where the great Leoidis M. dominated. The best bowl game for me was one of our first, the NO bowl against Rice or North Texas, the one where Omar H. put on a show. Man I could go on but getting emotional.
Ok St. and Rice stick out in my mind also. There would have been no Rice without the comeback vs the MUTS too. The Omar days were a blast!
The miracle in Mboro was fantastic
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Post by trojan2003 on Nov 21, 2018 16:30:22 GMT -6
All these memories and nobody mentions Jernigan! He was the difference-maker for us!
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Nov 21, 2018 16:51:07 GMT -6
All these memories and nobody mentions Jernigan! He was the difference-maker for us! Ah yes indeed. And, before that was Hampton and Banks.
The current day air raid crew will all be back this week. Watch.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Nov 21, 2018 18:21:05 GMT -6
All these memories and nobody mentions Jernigan! He was the difference-maker for us! Ah yes indeed. And, before that was Hampton and Banks.
The current day air raid crew will all be back this week. Watch.
I wish I was as confident of that as you.
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