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Post by srbtrojan on Dec 29, 2016 13:54:05 GMT -6
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Post by bennekles on Dec 29, 2016 14:40:37 GMT -6
16 team playoff. All conference champions get seeded 1-10. The 6 next best teams are seeded 11-16. First two rounds are held on campus of the higher seeded team, thereby giving smaller schools more revenue. Semis and final held just like they are now.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 29, 2016 16:08:34 GMT -6
Only problem is the lousy conferences sending a team but anything can happen in one game. Just look to March madness. Every year Podunk U knocks off a big boy first round. I like it. Who knows what a Troy or Ark St could do if we get the Mountain West or C-USA champ or even the AAAC champ first round
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Post by jonesoxygen on Dec 29, 2016 16:34:38 GMT -6
I'm torn. Look at WMU, they did everything they were asked to do, they won every game they played including their conference championship, but the best they could hope for was a Cotton Bowl invite. Boise was fortunate enough to get to the Fiesta Bowl once, but outside of that... there has been no love for us mid-majors. I agree with the perception of it being a step backwards and basically calling a playoff for the group of 5 a Junior Varsity playoff. I also agree it would be nice to have a chance at a championship. So I like bennekles plan of all conference champs getting into the "big boy" playoff.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Dec 29, 2016 17:05:20 GMT -6
As one who was following TROY during the 1AA days, I've said all along the playoff should be 16 teams. The problem lies with the money machine that is the current bowl system. Money talks, and I can't see the bowl structure quietly surrendering 12 games (first two rounds of 16 team playoff). If you work the bowls into the playoffs, which is possible, you elimate playing the first two rounds at on campus sites. It is a conundrum.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 29, 2016 17:11:35 GMT -6
Current system is a joke. Ohio St is playing for a Nat Championship but isn't even Conference champ and Penn St beat Ohio St and won the Big 10 and isn't in it. Washington played one tough tough team and got blown out by that team who Alabama beat by 40 points
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Dec 29, 2016 19:18:21 GMT -6
Current system is a joke. Ohio St is playing for a Nat Championship but isn't even Conference champ and Penn St beat Ohio St and won the Big 10 and isn't in it. Washington played one tough tough team and got blown out by that team who Alabama beat by 40 points While I agree that Ohio State should not be in the playoffs, I do not believe your assessment of Washington and Alabama are accurate. First off 26 - 13 is not a blowout and secondly there's only one team in the entire SEC to win nine games or more and that was Alabama. And that was a much different USC team that played Washington then the one that played Alabama that first game of the season. So I'm not quite sure just how good Alabama is. Was their best Victory against a 3 loss USC or a 4 loss Auburn or a 4 loss LSU or a 4 lost Florida? While all of the pundits will say Alabama will win and win big I'm not sure we shouldn't just wait and see and let the players and coaches determine. As for the other game I just think it's incredibly ironic that a team lose to its conference champion and yet still, because of the pundits, give all the love to Ohio State. They simply did not earn the right to be there. IMO
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Post by pcbtrojan on Dec 29, 2016 21:18:44 GMT -6
16 team playoff. Rotate the bowls so more bowls get elevated a bit due to the playoff. TV networks are happy as well as bowl hosting venues.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Dec 31, 2016 11:29:29 GMT -6
Only way I'm in favor of this is if the G5 playoff champ gets in the real playoff.
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Post by Redwaver on Dec 31, 2016 21:30:21 GMT -6
Current system is a joke. Ohio St is playing for a Nat Championship but isn't even Conference champ and Penn St beat Ohio St and won the Big 10 and isn't in it. Washington played one tough tough team and got blown out by that team who Alabama beat by 40 points While I agree that Ohio State should not be in the playoffs, I do not believe your assessment of Washington and Alabama are accurate. First off 26 - 13 is not a blowout and secondly there's only one team in the entire SEC to win nine games or more and that was Alabama. And that was a much different USC team that played Washington then the one that played Alabama that first game of the season. So I'm not quite sure just how good Alabama is. Was their best Victory against a 3 loss USC or a 4 loss Auburn or a 4 loss LSU or a 4 lost Florida? While all of the pundits will say Alabama will win and win big I'm not sure we shouldn't just wait and see and let the players and coaches determine. As for the other game I just think it's incredibly ironic that a team lose to its conference champion and yet still, because of the pundits, give all the love to Ohio State. They simply did not earn the right to be there. IMO Yea, somebody tell us again how Ohio State deserved to be here! We'll wait!
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Post by cornhole on Jan 1, 2017 8:53:30 GMT -6
16 team playoff. Rotate the bowls so more bowls get elevated a bit due to the playoff. TV networks are happy as well as bowl hosting venues. TV network$?? Am I mistaken that E$PN controls most if not ALL of College Football bowl games?? Please enlighten me..
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jan 1, 2017 9:09:05 GMT -6
Actually against a 16 team playoff but 8 yes with the following: A) All 5 P 5 champs in (Except in the event one of the P 5 champions has one more loss than All of the other 7 Playoff teams...when this occurs the SECOND ranked G 5 team gets in as long as they have a better winning percentage and less losses than the P5 team eliminated)
B) two at large teams C) The top rated G5 team...
The top rated G5 would be placed at number 6 and play number 3...the at large would be 7 or 8 IF a second G5 were to get in they would be seeded 8 and G 5 top would be seeded 5 with at large at 6-7..
This would allow for a second G 5 once every 5-10 years or at least a chance...eliminating a sucky P5 from getting in when not deserving...it would accentuate the league champion but not keep out deserving P5 teams...Like Ohio State ....HA Ha NOT THIS YEAR
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jan 1, 2017 19:16:31 GMT -6
I guess my plan could be tweaked by the CFP could take the eliminated P5 champ by only taking one instead of two at large teams...and although I believe it would never happen the CFP could include a G5 team as one of the at large any time they wished....
My plan this year would not have included an additional G5 but for argument sake let's say Troy for example had managed to win 11 and this year we would not wind up ahead of WMU...so this year with Oklahoma being @ 2 loses the two at larges Michigan and Penn State both with two loses would have had Oklahoma in playoff...not us...had the two likely at larges only had one loss .We would have been matched with Alabama in round one...The "one worse clause" would more than likely only come in to play if a league P5 champ had 3 loses
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Post by discophobia on Jan 1, 2017 20:25:36 GMT -6
If you pay your dues to the NCAA and win your conference you should have a shot at playing for the real National Championship.....just like in every other sport. If baseball and basketball were like football Coastal Carolina and Villanova never would of even been allowed to have an actual chance at playing for a National Title.
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Post by trojans91 on Jan 4, 2017 18:29:02 GMT -6
Backwards Move........So we get a shot at playing in a Junior Championship. This is not the answer.
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Post by discophobia on Jan 5, 2017 10:50:35 GMT -6
Backwards Move........So we get a shot at playing in a Junior Championship. This is not the answer. Agree, every FBS team that is in good standing with the NCAA should have a shot at the beginning of the year of being able to play for an actual National Championship, just like in every other division and in every other sport.
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Post by troy79 on Jan 5, 2017 13:00:52 GMT -6
Here's my take that I believe could make most everyone happy.... Go back to an 11 game regular season schedule, if you're in a conference, you play 8/9 conference games and 3/2 OOC games. All conferences play by the same standards. Do not have a Conference Championship game (Conference Champs are determined by an acceptable tie-breaker formula based off best record within the conference, head to head, etc., just like the old days) Have a 16 team playoff tournament. All Conference champs get in the playoff along with the best 6 non-conference champions. These games are played at the highest seeded teams home stadium during what is now Week 12 of the football season. The round of 8 games are now played the week that the current Conference Championship games are conducted, and will also be hosted by the highest seeds. This will then allow the final 4 to be selected, based off the new playoff format, during the same weekend that all Bowl teams are normally selected. Bowl games thus remain at their current time periods and the final 4 teams playoff games are still hosted during New Years with the Championship game in early January as well. Any thoughts fellow Trojans? Go TROY!
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Post by troy79 on Jan 5, 2017 13:16:06 GMT -6
And one more note, have the Army - Navy game kick off the season one week ahead of everyone else instead of being at the end of the season to allow this new format to work and still allowing them to have the only D-1 game on TV for that weekend. This would also mean that all Bowl games would have teams with winning records participate (would now be over .500 since teams will play an 11 game season) unless of course there are not enough winning teams to fill the slots (no more 6-6 records).
Go TROY!
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Jan 5, 2017 21:46:44 GMT -6
And one more note, have the Army - Navy game kick off the season one week ahead of everyone else instead of being at the end of the season to allow this new format to work and still allowing them to have the only D-1 game on TV for that weekend. This would also mean that all Bowl games would have teams with winning records participate (would now be over .500 since teams will play an 11 game season) unless of course there are not enough winning teams to fill the slots (no more 6-6 records). Go TROY! Never Happen the Army/Navy game IS ABOUT being the last game of the season! Those two teams on the field are battling each other that day, the next day they will ALL BE ON THE SAME TEAM!!
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Post by Trojanfan2 on Jan 10, 2017 9:32:39 GMT -6
It's already been decided. Eventually there will be four major power conferences with two divisions of eight teams each. The first round will be the conference championship (eight teams playing), then the four conference champs will play for the national title as it is today. If those four super conferences have to start a new league to make that happen they will. The power 6 will eventually merge into the power 4.
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