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Post by ksdtrojan on Oct 28, 2016 10:35:25 GMT -6
Chris Petersen is the current HC at Washington as you all know. He was the OC at Boise St from 2001-2005 and HC at Boise St from 2006 to 2013 before departing to Washington. While he was there, he helped build Boise St into the giant killer from the now group of 5 against the power 5 conference teams. Neal Brown didn't exactly follow this same path but it is similar in that he started out here at TROY as a position coach then OC now HC.
My questions are these:
Is TROY a place where Neal Brown will be happy to help build TROY into a similarly feared giant killer like CP did at Boise St?
Will HCNB wait for that perfect opportunity in a P5 program for 7 to 8 years like CP did as HC at Boise St?
What is the institution Neal has circled as his dream coaching locale?
I know these questions are way to early to be pondering but pondering them I am. I would like to see what you all think. I hope and pray that Coach Brown will stay and build this program from not just a foundation and a wall but a massive impenetrable fortress with capable overseers in place to keep it growing and protected. I believe Neal Brown is headed for a career that will find him heralded as the best coach in college football as he will build a P5 dynasty at some fortunate institution. And I will forever be a fan of HCNB.
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Post by Redwaver on Oct 28, 2016 10:52:43 GMT -6
Chris Petersen is the current HC at Washington as you all know. He was the OC at Boise St from 2001-2005 and HC at Boise St from 2006 to 2013 before departing to Washington. While he was there, he helped build Boise St into the giant killer from the now group of 5 against the power 5 conference teams. Neal Brown didn't exactly follow this same path but it is similar in that he started out here at TROY as a position coach then OC now HC. My questions are these: Is TROY a place where Neal Brown will be happy to help build TROY into a similarly feared giant killer like CP did at Boise St? Will HCNB wait for that perfect opportunity in a P5 program for 7 to 8 years like CP did as HC at Boise St? What is the institution Neal has circled as his dream coaching locale? I know these questions are way to early to be pondering but pondering them I am. I would like to see what you all think. I hope and pray that Coach Brown will stay and build this program from not just a foundation and a wall but a massive impenetrable fortress with capable overseers in place to keep it growing and protected. I believe Neal Brown is headed for a career that will find him heralded as the best coach in college football as he will build a P5 dynasty at some fortunate institution. And I will forever be a fan of HCNB. It's funny, several have said Kentucky will come calling in time but we're I him, I'm not sure I would consider that a goal. GRANTED it's his home and he has a history there but making football a priority will never happen. In Kentucky it will always be basketball and I'm not sure with Neal it's all about the money. If he stays and builds an incredible power at our overlooked location, the big football powers will take notice and he might get a shot at a big FOOTBALL school.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 28, 2016 11:33:10 GMT -6
Kentuckys buy out of stoops is something like 18million. He won't be fired.
Besides they just need 2 more wins out of Austin Peay, Missouri, Georgia, Louisville and Tennessee to get to 6 wins. So he wouldn't be fired anyway
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Post by tntrojan on Oct 28, 2016 11:36:00 GMT -6
Kentuckys buy out of stoops is something like 18million. He won't be fired. Besides they just need 2 more wins out of Austin Peay, Missouri, Georgia, Louisville and Tennessee to get to 6 wins. So he wouldn't be fired anyway Outside of Austin Peay, I don't think the Wildcats will be favored in any of those games.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 28, 2016 11:55:25 GMT -6
Kentuckys buy out of stoops is something like 18million. He won't be fired. Besides they just need 2 more wins out of Austin Peay, Missouri, Georgia, Louisville and Tennessee to get to 6 wins. So he wouldn't be fired anyway Outside of Austin Peay, I don't think the Wildcats will be favored in any of those games.
Missouri is winnable. They are 2-5 and just lost to MTSU UGA is also a dumpster fire after losing to vandy
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 28, 2016 12:02:50 GMT -6
I'd be more concerned about Texas Tech than Kentucky
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 28, 2016 13:21:56 GMT -6
Chris Petersen is the current HC at Washington as you all know. He was the OC at Boise St from 2001-2005 and HC at Boise St from 2006 to 2013 before departing to Washington. While he was there, he helped build Boise St into the giant killer from the now group of 5 against the power 5 conference teams. Neal Brown didn't exactly follow this same path but it is similar in that he started out here at TROY as a position coach then OC now HC. My questions are these: Is TROY a place where Neal Brown will be happy to help build TROY into a similarly feared giant killer like CP did at Boise St? Will HCNB wait for that perfect opportunity in a P5 program for 7 to 8 years like CP did as HC at Boise St? What is the institution Neal has circled as his dream coaching locale? I know these questions are way to early to be pondering but pondering them I am. I would like to see what you all think. I hope and pray that Coach Brown will stay and build this program from not just a foundation and a wall but a massive impenetrable fortress with capable overseers in place to keep it growing and protected. I believe Neal Brown is headed for a career that will find him heralded as the best coach in college football as he will build a P5 dynasty at some fortunate institution. And I will forever be a fan of HCNB. The crystal ball is foggy but to answer your questions: 1. Yes 2. No 3. Ask CNB
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Post by pctrojan16 on Oct 28, 2016 18:20:12 GMT -6
I'd be more concerned about Texas Tech than Kentucky i gotta agree with you. Kingsbury is kind of imploding over there, and they had success with him as OC, same as us
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 29, 2016 13:45:23 GMT -6
Kentuckys buy out of stoops is something like 18million. He won't be fired. Besides they just need 2 more wins out of Austin Peay, Missouri, Georgia, Louisville and Tennessee to get to 6 wins. So he wouldn't be fired anyway Outside of Austin Peay, I don't think the Wildcats will be favored in any of those games.
They beat Missouri. As long as they show up against Austin peay they will be bowling. NB won't be headed to U.K. This year for sure
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Post by cornhole on Nov 1, 2016 17:39:09 GMT -6
Outside of Austin Peay, I don't think the Wildcats will be favored in any of those games.
They beat Missouri. As long as they show up against Austin peay they will be bowling. NB won't be headed to U.K. This year for sure Agree, not this year but nothing would be better for UK and CNB's family than spring-boarding an Epiphany re: football at KY. It's $EC, It's big. It's a fit.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Nov 2, 2016 5:43:58 GMT -6
NB strikes me as someone unlike TF, in that he won't bounce around too much because of his small kids. If he goes to KY early in his HC tenure, he likely won't be there very long because IT'S KENTUCKY!
If Troy takes care of NB, he'll take care of Troy.
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 2, 2016 6:39:37 GMT -6
NB strikes me as someone unlike TF, in that he won't bounce around too much because of his small kids. If he goes to KY early in his HC tenure, he likely won't be there very long because IT'S KENTUCKY! If Troy takes care of NB, he'll take care of Troy. Hope your right. But your wish is a little bit fantasy, sadly. Someone throw 3 or 4 million with a guaranteed buyout with the opportunity to compete and win at the highest level of college football, he is taking it. With that kind of cabbage his kids can buy new friends.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Nov 2, 2016 7:34:16 GMT -6
NB strikes me as someone unlike TF, in that he won't bounce around too much because of his small kids. If he goes to KY early in his HC tenure, he likely won't be there very long because IT'S KENTUCKY! If Troy takes care of NB, he'll take care of Troy. Hope your right. But your wish is a little bit fantasy, sadly. Someone throw 3 or 4 million with a guaranteed buyout with the opportunity to compete and win at the highest level of college football, he is taking it. With that kind of cabbage his kids can buy new friends. Being that is a response that was expected, KY is a last-stop destination. He'll get his money because of his resume and ability, but money doesn't rule everyone. Some people still make decision based upon character, integrity, and commitment. There isn't always a price-tag on them...I will qualify that with: If he left today, would Troy football be set to digress or progress? My interest lies within Troy being the best they can be regardless of whom the HBC is.
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 2, 2016 7:41:35 GMT -6
Hope your right. But your wish is a little bit fantasy, sadly. Someone throw 3 or 4 million with a guaranteed buyout with the opportunity to compete and win at the highest level of college football, he is taking it. With that kind of cabbage his kids can buy new friends. Being that is a response that was expected, KY is a last-stop destination. He'll get his money because of his resume and ability, but money doesn't rule everyone. Some people still make decision based upon character, integrity, and commitment. There isn't always a price-tag on them...I will qualify that with: If he left today, would Troy football be set to digress or progress? My interest lies within Troy being the best they can be regardless of whom the HBC is. Your response was expected as well. Question: why is it and who says that taking a job at a bigger school for more money lacks character, integrity, and commitment, as you inferred would be in CNB if he left. Your stance on the OP was he might not leave because he has small kids. That is weak and illogical.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Nov 2, 2016 7:52:57 GMT -6
Being that is a response that was expected, KY is a last-stop destination. He'll get his money because of his resume and ability, but money doesn't rule everyone. Some people still make decision based upon character, integrity, and commitment. There isn't always a price-tag on them...I will qualify that with: If he left today, would Troy football be set to digress or progress? My interest lies within Troy being the best they can be regardless of whom the HBC is. Your response was expected as well. Question: why is it and who says that taking a job at a bigger school for more money lacks character, integrity, and commitment, as you inferred would be in CNB if he left. Your stance on the OP was he might not leave because he has small kids. That is weak and illogical. What I stated and why will always escape you.
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 2, 2016 8:20:04 GMT -6
Your response was expected as well. Question: why is it and who says that taking a job at a bigger school for more money lacks character, integrity, and commitment, as you inferred would be in CNB if he left. Your stance on the OP was he might not leave because he has small kids. That is weak and illogical. What I stated and why will always escape you. You have nothing so you take your ball and go home...run little brother run.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Nov 2, 2016 9:31:05 GMT -6
Hope your right. But your wish is a little bit fantasy, sadly. Someone throw 3 or 4 million with a guaranteed buyout with the opportunity to compete and win at the highest level of college football, he is taking it. With that kind of cabbage his kids can buy new friends. Being that is a response that was expected, KY is a last-stop destination. He'll get his money because of his resume and ability, but money doesn't rule everyone. Some people still make decision based upon character, integrity, and commitment. There isn't always a price-tag on them...I will qualify that with: If he left today, would Troy football be set to digress or progress? My interest lies within Troy being the best they can be regardless of whom the HBC is. I couldn't agree more. Some people want to see a job through to complete the goals they've set for themselves and their organization. The sense of a job well done and complete. I think that is what made Chris Petersen so successful at Boise State and is the basis for my original post in this thread. Boise State continued to build on his successes as he built on the successes of his predecessor. He turned down several opportunities and now finds himself in a position to be Washington's master architect as they rebuild that program. Is UK right for Neal Brown? Only he can answer that. But I personally see him at this point as a person who works to accomplish what he sets out to accomplish and I don't believe he came to TROY to leave with a job half done. And to answer my question...I believe he is the person that will build this program and when he leaves he will leave it in a position of continued success.
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 2, 2016 11:02:13 GMT -6
Being that is a response that was expected, KY is a last-stop destination. He'll get his money because of his resume and ability, but money doesn't rule everyone. Some people still make decision based upon character, integrity, and commitment. There isn't always a price-tag on them...I will qualify that with: If he left today, would Troy football be set to digress or progress? My interest lies within Troy being the best they can be regardless of whom the HBC is. Your response was expected as well. Question: why is it and who says that taking a job at a bigger school for more money lacks character, integrity, and commitment, as you inferred would be in CNB if he left. Your stance on the OP was he might not leave because he has small kids. That is weak and illogical. Why is it "weak and illogical"? I've known a lot of coaches that made move choices about family rather than money. Everyone doesn't dance to the song of the almighty dollar! Some consider other more important criteria.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 2, 2016 15:16:38 GMT -6
Larry Kehres stayed at Mount Union for 20 plus years, amassed a .920 winning percentage, 9 National Championships, a 54 and 55 game win streak. I would have to believe he had opportunities to leave and didn't. Why? Maybe it was home to him. You never know what a coach wants
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