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Post by sballalumni2 on Mar 14, 2016 10:08:13 GMT -6
Well, the series started out so well! If we are ever going to get over the hump and make an NCAA appearance, we can not lose a series to GA State. Both teams were on the bubble last year and if it comes down to it again, they beat us head to head. I watched most of the games via the internet (with no audio), and it looked like we played poor defense. Did anyone go to the game? I would love to get their opinon.
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Post by Troystet on Mar 14, 2016 18:01:58 GMT -6
Meanwhile the coach we could have hired is 35-1 and ranked #1 in the country in juco
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Post by Hemi Man on Mar 14, 2016 18:04:43 GMT -6
Meanwhile the coach we could have hired is 35-1 and ranked #1 in the country in juco Troy isn't a juco. Our coach is doing just fine.
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Post by Troystet on Mar 14, 2016 18:14:27 GMT -6
Meanwhile the coach we could have hired is 35-1 and ranked #1 in the country in juco Troy isn't a juco. Our coach is doing just fine. You didn't say that when they hired Rigby did you and how did that turn out?? Success rate of female softball coaches is substantially below male coaches.....fact
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Post by Hemi Man on Mar 14, 2016 18:21:49 GMT -6
Troy isn't a juco. Our coach is doing just fine. You didn't say that when they hired Rigby did you and how did that turn out?? Success rate of female softball coaches is substantially below male coaches.....fact I can't imagine why people on here poke at you so often. You are telling me that a coach that won 10 more game than the coach the previous season isn't headed in the right direction? Rigby is a great coach no matter what level. I'm proud your friend that coaches juco is doing so well.
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Post by Troystet on Mar 14, 2016 18:25:50 GMT -6
You didn't say that when they hired Rigby did you and how did that turn out?? Success rate of female softball coaches is substantially below male coaches.....fact I can't imagine why people on here poke at you so often. You are telling me that a coach that won 10 more game than the coach the previous season isn't headed in the right direction? Rigby is a great coach no matter what level. I'm proud your friend that coaches juco is doing so well. Stating facts is all. In softball Alabama, Auburn, ULL, Florida, Missouri, Tennessee, Arizona, Arizona St and on and on have one thing in common. She might do well, statistics are stacked against her. No different in ASA Gold top level travel ball...there is one thing all top teams have. I wish her well but I have doubts.
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Post by sballalumni2 on Mar 14, 2016 19:12:24 GMT -6
I asked the AD if Fagan applied for the job, and he didn't apply, so he wasn't really an option. It is still too early to judge the coach because for the most part the players that are leading the team in hitting, pitching, and pretty much every starter was recruited by the prior coaching staff. I am most disappointed in the freshman pitchers. We really needed one of them to be a stud and so far they are just about average. Rainey is having to come in to finish off games for them against easy non-conference competition. She isn't going to be able to keep throwing all of these innings because she has had prior injuries. I mean I hope she can, but it is asking a lot. I do like the more aggressive hitting of the new coach, but I am thinking we need to find a male pitching coach that was an old fastpitch player to develop the pitchers.
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Post by Troystet on Mar 14, 2016 19:40:44 GMT -6
I asked the AD if Fagan applied for the job, and he didn't apply, so he wasn't really an option. It is still too early to judge the coach because for the most part the players that are leading the team in hitting, pitching, and pretty much every starter was recruited by the prior coaching staff. I am most disappointed in the freshman pitchers. We really needed one of them to be a stud and so far they are just about average. Rainey is having to come in to finish off games for them against easy non-conference competition. She isn't going to be able to keep throwing all of these innings because she has had prior injuries. I mean I hope she can, but it is asking a lot. I do like the more aggressive hitting of the new coach, but I am thinking we need to find a male pitching coach that was an old fastpitch player to develop the pitchers. Not entirely factual. He inquired when Melanie resigned and the job wasn't posted. No response from Hartwell. Not sure what happened after that. Fagan will get picked up by someone, guy is flat out a winner (collegiate Football champ, two super bowl rings, two softball state championships and one nat championship and beat Hannah Rogers for his first state championship and Jackie Traina for the second, won a ASA Gold Nat Championship and took CF to the juco Nat championship first season and currently ranked #1 in the country and CF was horrible before he took over. I just hope another Sun Belt team doesn't snap him up
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Post by cornhole on Mar 14, 2016 22:43:26 GMT -6
Meanwhile the coach we could have hired is 35-1 and ranked #1 in the country in juco Evidently no other Div I program selected him at that time either... just a fact sir.
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Post by sballalumni2 on Mar 15, 2016 7:22:32 GMT -6
I don't know Fagan personally, but I kind of figured he wasn't really interested in coaching at the Div I level. I thought he was kind of doing it just for fun. On his team this year is a USA transfer that played and pitched very well in Div I last year, so he better win a JUCO national championship with her - ha! It is interesting that the new coaching staff is trending toward no JUCO players or recruits, yet all of her leading hitters are JUCO transfers. I just think it would be a shame if she didn't try to pickup a couple of the better JUCO players from the area/state because of the way recruiting is now. The Power 5 conferences are carrying 25-30 players, so the people that were going mid-major are now sitting the bench for Ole Miss, Auburn, etc.
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Post by Troystet on Mar 15, 2016 8:48:39 GMT -6
I don't know Fagan personally, but I kind of figured he wasn't really interested in coaching at the Div I level. I thought he was kind of doing it just for fun. On his team this year is a USA transfer that played and pitched very well in Div I last year, so he better win a JUCO national championship with her - ha! It is interesting that the new coaching staff is trending toward no JUCO players or recruits, yet all of her leading hitters are JUCO transfers. I just think it would be a shame if she didn't try to pickup a couple of the better JUCO players from the area/state because of the way recruiting is now. The Power 5 conferences are carrying 25-30 players, so the people that were going mid-major are now sitting the bench for Ole Miss, Auburn, etc. Juco is different in baseball and softball. I coached travel softball for 6 years. Very hard to get a D1 to look at you unless your playing ASA Gold and the costs and travel keep a lot of girls from doing it. We had three girls on our team playing D1 now but had to go the Juco route because we elected to stay in FL for showcases and one trip to TN. Mainly Juco and D2 scouts at those tournaments. All three girls were good enough out of Hs but just couldn't get the looks Fagan doesn't do anything for fun. He will be picked up soon. He did have offers way out west but didn't want to go that far away. He will get picked up by someone in the south. As far as having the D1 pitcher, that's true but they went to the national championship game 2 seasons ago without a transfer pitcher. South has lost two pitchers the last two years. One I coached and she transferred to CF. I called Troy about her but no response. She signed with South Carolina-Upstate and has been A-Sun player of the week this season. She throws about 65 mph
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Post by Troystet on Mar 15, 2016 8:55:42 GMT -6
Meanwhile the coach we could have hired is 35-1 and ranked #1 in the country in juco Evidently no other Div I program selected him at that time either... just a fact sir. He has offers out west but doesn't want to be that far from family. He has two daughters still playing in the SEC and a daughter coming up.
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Post by cornhole on Mar 15, 2016 20:58:06 GMT -6
Evidently no other Div I program selected him at that time either... just a fact sir. He has offers out west but doesn't want to be that far from family. He has two daughters still playing in the SEC and a daughter coming up. Out West, I see.
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Post by Troystet on Mar 16, 2016 14:07:03 GMT -6
He has offers out west but doesn't want to be that far from family. He has two daughters still playing in the SEC and a daughter coming up. Out West, I see. He hasn't held a clip board in a SEC dugout for three seasons.
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Post by Redwaver on Mar 19, 2016 5:11:30 GMT -6
Troy Softball Has Record-Breaking Day at Appalachian State 23-6 and 11-1. Congratulation ladies!
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Post by cornhole on Mar 19, 2016 7:54:24 GMT -6
Troy Softball Has Record-Breaking Day at Appalachian State 23-6 and 11-1. Congratulation ladies! Like that man sezs, Coaching does make a difference!! gay-laugh
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Post by Troystet on Mar 19, 2016 9:49:12 GMT -6
Troy Softball Has Record-Breaking Day at Appalachian State 23-6 and 11-1. Congratulation ladies! Like that man sezs, Coaching does make a difference!! gay-laugh Yes it does and so does playing a team with only 6 wins. We need to play like this against USA and ULL, then we have arrived
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Post by Redwaver on Mar 19, 2016 10:39:27 GMT -6
Like that man sezs, Coaching does make a difference!! gay-laugh Yes it does and so does playing a team with only 6 wins. We need to play like this against USA and ULL, then we have arrived The prosecution rest! Now it's not "winning is everything" anymore, but now it's who you win against. When you mentioned the 30-1 record of your BB juco coaching friend, did you list just his wins against "quality" opponents or was you prideful of all 30 wins HE had? You said he was a "winner"! Hopefully it included ALL his wins as it should. Bet he is proud of EACH WIN. Why not see Troy coaches that same way as well? I thought the idea was to WIN and celebrate it when it happens! I'm just trying to understand what rules are applied to the Troy staffs vs other coaches.
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Post by cornhole on Mar 19, 2016 20:04:02 GMT -6
Yes it does and so does playing a team with only 6 wins. We need to play like this against USA and ULL, then we have arrived The prosecution rest! Now it's not "winning is everything" anymore, but now it's who you win against. When you mentioned the 30-1 record of your BB juco coaching friend, did you list just his wins against "quality" opponents or was you prideful of all 30 wins HE had? You said he was a "winner"! Hopefully it included ALL his wins as it should. Bet he is proud of EACH WIN. Why not see Troy coaches that same way as well? I thought the idea was to WIN and celebrate it when it happens! I'm just trying to understand what rules are applied to the Troy staffs vs other coaches. Point well made sir. Hard to understand stet's everchanging "rationale" gay-laugh
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Post by Troystet on Mar 20, 2016 13:07:19 GMT -6
We play ULL next. if we beat them we are for real
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Post by Hemi Man on Mar 20, 2016 13:19:08 GMT -6
We play ULL next. if we beat them we are for real No reason to not enjoy the current sweep.
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Post by Troystet on Mar 20, 2016 13:25:10 GMT -6
We play ULL next. if we beat them we are for real No reason to not enjoy the current sweep. Your supposed to sweep a 6 win team. If we can beat ULL then we have a heck of a team. Them and USA are the current SBC Benchmarks
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Mar 21, 2016 8:15:36 GMT -6
So in theory, a team can go 6-36 and be considered an elite Sun Belt team by TroyStet as long as those six wins come against ULL and South.
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Post by Troystet on Mar 21, 2016 14:03:16 GMT -6
So in theory, a team can go 6-36 and be considered an elite Sun Belt team by TroyStet as long as those six wins come against ULL and South. You don't beat those teams with a 6-36 record. They are the bench mark. When we can beat those two teams we are going to compete for a NCAA berth. Until we do, we won't. ULL is the top dog. You want to be king of the mountain you have to knock the king off the mountain.
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Post by sballalumni2 on Mar 22, 2016 14:10:34 GMT -6
I am sorry, but I must agree with Troystet on this one boys. I am glad we swept, and I am proud of our homeruns, but my goodness I hope the wind was blowing out! We gave up so many runs that our pitchers ERA's will never recover! We need to win at least 2 this weekend because our schedule is weak this year and we don't get many chances against Top 25 teams (if we want to try to get an at-large bid). Our pitchers gave up 26 runs over the weekend! I bet that is a record - ha!
I hope everyone that can make it will go out this weekend and cheer. The ULL fans travel well. I will be working, but at least I will have audio since ULL broadcasts every softball game.
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