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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Oct 19, 2015 19:43:47 GMT -6
The last time I played organized football, I was 12 years old. I am not an expert on the game (someone once said that an expert is just a stranger with a briefcase, so pffft on that), but I am intelligent, observant and able to reason. Every year during spring and fall camp I hear this refrain: "The defense is much better than the offense", to which someone will reply "improvement on the defensive side always comes before improvement on the offensive side. Give the "o" time, they'll come around too."
Let's apply logic and reason to that way of thinking. If the above is true on a micro level (short term training camps) it seems logical it would also be true on the macro level (overall program direction). I propose we are seeing this play out before our eyes. The defense has improved significantly since last season...I say even since game one of this season. The offense hasn't shown improvement at the same rate, perhaps the argument can be made that it hasn't improved at all. As we make this argument, let's remember, we played an entire game Saturday without our starting QB; heck, he wasn't even dressed.
We are 6 games into a complete program overhaul. Am I happy we are 1-5 and have compiled that record in the manner we have? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Do I think we are will improve? ABSOLUTELY! I look for that improvement, however, to come over the long run, not overnight and I think we will see the defense continue to improve at a faster rate than the offense, at least in the short run. The program didn't get in this shape in 6 games, it's not going to return to its previous level of success in 6 games.
A popular theme here is to bash the Bammers and the Barns and their projected sense of entitlement. Let's stop acting like them, like we are entitled to win just because we have a history of doing so. Let's acknowledge we have a Herculean task ahead of us and let's get supportive of the effort to rebuild. We will win again! Until that time, I will be here, offering my support. The winning, when it comes, will be that much sweeter for its absence.
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Oct 19, 2015 19:52:56 GMT -6
The last time I played organized football, I was 12 years old. I am not an expert on the game (someone once said that an expert is just a stranger with a briefcase, so pffft on that), but I am intelligent, observant and able to reason. Every year during spring and fall camp I hear this refrain: "The defense is much better than the offense", to which someone will reply "improvement on the defensive side always comes before improvement on the offensive side. Give the "o" time, they'll come around too." Let's apply logic and reason to that way of thinking. If the above is true on a micro level (short term training camps) it seems logical it would also be true on the macro level (overall program direction). I propose we are seeing this play out before our eyes. The defense has improved significantly since last season...I say even since game one of this season. The offense hasn't shown improvement at the same rate, perhaps the argument can be made that it hasn't improved at all. As we make this argument, let's remember, we played an entire game Saturday without our starting QB; heck, he wasn't even dressed. We are 5 games into a complete program overhaul. Am I happy we are 1-5 and have compiled that record in the manner we have? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Do I think we are will improve? ABSOLUTELY! I look for that improvement, however, to come over the long run, not overnight and I think we will see the defense continue to improve at a faster rate than the offense, at least in the short run. The program didn't get in this shape in 5 games, it's not going to return to its previous level of success in 5 games. A popular theme here is to bash the Bammers and the Barns and their projected sense of entitlement. Let's stop acting like them, like we are entitled to win just because we have a history of doing so. Let's acknowledge we have a Herculean task ahead of us and let's get supportive of the effort to rebuild. We will win again! Until that time, I will be here, offering my support. The winning, when it comes, will be that much sweeter for its absence. Don't know if you are part of 'my group' or not, BUT, I like what you said!
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 19, 2015 19:58:52 GMT -6
The last time I played organized football, I was 12 years old. I am not an expert on the game (someone once said that an expert is just a stranger with a briefcase, so pffft on that), but I am intelligent, observant and able to reason. Every year during spring and fall camp I hear this refrain: "The defense is much better than the offense", to which someone will reply "improvement on the defensive side always comes before improvement on the offensive side. Give the "o" time, they'll come around too." Let's apply logic and reason to that way of thinking. If the above is true on a micro level (short term training camps) it seems logical it would also be true on the macro level (overall program direction). I propose we are seeing this play out before our eyes. The defense has improved significantly since last season...I say even since game one of this season. The offense hasn't shown improvement at the same rate, perhaps the argument can be made that it hasn't improved at all. As we make this argument, let's remember, we played an entire game Saturday without our starting QB; heck, he wasn't even dressed. We are 5 games into a complete program overhaul. Am I happy we are 1-5 and have compiled that record in the manner we have? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Do I think we are will improve? ABSOLUTELY! I look for that improvement, however, to come over the long run, not overnight and I think we will see the defense continue to improve at a faster rate than the offense, at least in the short run. The program didn't get in this shape in 5 games, it's not going to return to its previous level of success in 5 games. A popular theme here is to bash the Bammers and the Barns and their projected sense of entitlement. Let's stop acting like them, like we are entitled to win just because we have a history of doing so. Let's acknowledge we have a Herculean task ahead of us and let's get supportive of the effort to rebuild. We will win again! Until that time, I will be here, offering my support. The winning, when it comes, will be that much sweeter for its absence. Don't know if you are part of 'my group' or not, BUT, I like what you said! He is not
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Post by cornhole on Oct 19, 2015 20:04:40 GMT -6
Don't know if you are part of 'my group' or not, BUT, I like what you said! He is not What he said, he is welcome in my group.
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 19, 2015 20:06:18 GMT -6
What he said, he is welcome in my group. Cornhole was reasonable and logical two years ago. Some were not.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Oct 19, 2015 21:57:32 GMT -6
What he said, he is welcome in my group. Cornhole was reasonable and logical two years ago. Some were not. That is correct...
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Post by buzzlightyear on Oct 20, 2015 6:33:37 GMT -6
The last time I played organized football, I was 12 years old. I am not an expert on the game (someone once said that an expert is just a stranger with a briefcase, so pffft on that), but I am intelligent, observant and able to reason. Every year during spring and fall camp I hear this refrain: "The defense is much better than the offense", to which someone will reply "improvement on the defensive side always comes before improvement on the offensive side. Give the "o" time, they'll come around too." Let's apply logic and reason to that way of thinking. If the above is true on a micro level (short term training camps) it seems logical it would also be true on the macro level (overall program direction). I propose we are seeing this play out before our eyes. The defense has improved significantly since last season...I say even since game one of this season. The offense hasn't shown improvement at the same rate, perhaps the argument can be made that it hasn't improved at all. As we make this argument, let's remember, we played an entire game Saturday without our starting QB; heck, he wasn't even dressed. We are 5 games into a complete program overhaul. Am I happy we are 1-5 and have compiled that record in the manner we have? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Do I think we are will improve? ABSOLUTELY! I look for that improvement, however, to come over the long run, not overnight and I think we will see the defense continue to improve at a faster rate than the offense, at least in the short run. The program didn't get in this shape in 5 games, it's not going to return to its previous level of success in 5 games. A popular theme here is to bash the Bammers and the Barns and their projected sense of entitlement. Let's stop acting like them, like we are entitled to win just because we have a history of doing so. Let's acknowledge we have a Herculean task ahead of us and let's get supportive of the effort to rebuild. We will win again! Until that time, I will be here, offering my support. The winning, when it comes, will be that much sweeter for its absence. Don't know if you are part of 'my group' or not, BUT, I like what you said! BravoSmiley
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Post by doc71 on Oct 20, 2015 8:00:48 GMT -6
The last time I played organized football, I was 12 years old. I am not an expert on the game (someone once said that an expert is just a stranger with a briefcase, so pffft on that), but I am intelligent, observant and able to reason. Every year during spring and fall camp I hear this refrain: "The defense is much better than the offense", to which someone will reply "improvement on the defensive side always comes before improvement on the offensive side. Give the "o" time, they'll come around too." Let's apply logic and reason to that way of thinking. If the above is true on a micro level (short term training camps) it seems logical it would also be true on the macro level (overall program direction). I propose we are seeing this play out before our eyes. The defense has improved significantly since last season...I say even since game one of this season. The offense hasn't shown improvement at the same rate, perhaps the argument can be made that it hasn't improved at all. As we make this argument, let's remember, we played an entire game Saturday without our starting QB; heck, he wasn't even dressed. We are 6 games into a complete program overhaul. Am I happy we are 1-5 and have compiled that record in the manner we have? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Do I think we are will improve? ABSOLUTELY! I look for that improvement, however, to come over the long run, not overnight and I think we will see the defense continue to improve at a faster rate than the offense, at least in the short run. The program didn't get in this shape in 6 games, it's not going to return to its previous level of success in 6 games. A popular theme here is to bash the Bammers and the Barns and their projected sense of entitlement. Let's stop acting like them, like we are entitled to win just because we have a history of doing so. Let's acknowledge we have a Herculean task ahead of us and let's get supportive of the effort to rebuild. We will win again! Until that time, I will be here, offering my support. The winning, when it comes, will be that much sweeter for its absence. Well said sir! There's no "one" thing that leads to a winning culture ... and no "one" thing that leads to a losing culture. So many "Intangibles"! (want to, chemistry, heart, togetherness, mental toughness, etc) I played from 1st grade on, and the worst team record I experienced was our 85 team at Troy ... 6-4! I almost quit ... couldn't stand "Losing"! And, a good argument could be made that the 85 team was the most "talented" of my 4 years. (84-87)! The 86-87 teams of course had some special talent, but also had lots of guys like me that were "TOO" something (too small, too big, too slow, etc.) Anyway, as the saying goes ... wish we could "bottle" those intangibles ... I like what I hear from Coach Brown. Taking responsibility ... being positive and optimistic ... no short cuts ... hard work!! Coach Brown wasn't my top choice for the job ... but have been impressed and have confidence in he and the staff! Go Troy!
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Post by trojanbrutha on Oct 20, 2015 8:31:47 GMT -6
Well said and well received...
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