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Post by Troystet on Jun 1, 2015 13:47:59 GMT -6
Under those circumstances aforementioned, I can't help but think he was offered a redshirt and didn't want it...he may have underestimated what was already here or misunderstood what the process would be had he not unseeded whomever was in front of him after the spring. A bright kid that may have made a not so grown-up move...best of luck. Once a Trojan, always a Trojan. I do know they used The Millenium Scholarship on him which didn't go against the athletic scholarships. I have to think with him early enrolling and coming off a 3-9 year, I think he thought he was going to play. I didn't see a lot from him in the T-Day game. He looked indecisive on throwing and tucked it quite a bit. I guess we won't find out. Hope we can recruit at least two QB's. My other concern is that 2016 coukd be like 2011 in that if Silvers gets hurt or has to play hurt like Corey did because of no experience to put in at qb.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Jun 1, 2015 14:28:04 GMT -6
Something is a miss with the stflorian guy.
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Post by saintflorian on Jun 1, 2015 14:35:49 GMT -6
Something is a miss with the stflorian guy. Attachments:
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jun 1, 2015 14:55:34 GMT -6
After this season Silvers will be the only scholarship QB. Now if he starts and does well he will be a junior going into his third year as a starter. That, I would think would discourage a Juco qb from signing. That would seem that we have to sign two Hs QB's next year. Which would mean they sit for two years also. It will be interesting. You have to sell a talented qb on the opportunity to start in two years and not imediate playing time. Now if Silvers struggles, then the qb will have a chance to play early. QB's however don't seem to struggle under Neal Brown That's why I hated to see Minshew leave. EXACTLY
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jun 1, 2015 15:13:44 GMT -6
Under those circumstances aforementioned, I can't help but think he was offered a redshirt and didn't want it...he may have underestimated what was already here or misunderstood what the process would be had he not unseeded whomever was in front of him after the spring. A bright kid that may have made a not so grown-up move...best of luck. Once a Trojan, always a Trojan. I do know they used The Millenium Scholarship on him which didn't go against the athletic scholarships. I have to think with him early enrolling and coming off a 3-9 year, I think he thought he was going to play. I didn't see a lot from him in the T-Day game. He looked indecisive on throwing and tucked it quite a bit. I guess we won't find out. Hope we can recruit at least two QB's. My other concern is that 2016 coukd be like 2011 in that if Silvers gets hurt or has to play hurt like Corey did because of no experience to put in at qb. I'm pretty sure we can get a midterm juco QB that'll ease the tension of depth. They're in on quite a few guys...we'll see how it plays out.
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Post by Troystet on Jun 1, 2015 15:20:12 GMT -6
A lot depends on the year Silvers has. A great year I don't see a JUCO qb signing with a junior qb who has started two years. A bad year and anything is possible, including a true freshman starting. 2015 will tell.
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Post by Redwaver on Jun 1, 2015 15:41:22 GMT -6
That's why I hated to see Minshew leave. EXACTLY Dang, they said he was a smart kid so you would think he could understand having to wait his turn, go through the learning process to be ready when HIS time was there. If he was 2nd, he was an injury away from starting. Leaving seems a tad unrealistic and premature but who knows. Seldome do true freshmen start day one at D1!
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Post by Pete on Jun 2, 2015 15:24:32 GMT -6
I well remember a Third Stringer named "3Notch Levi"
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Post by saintflorian on Jun 2, 2015 16:00:36 GMT -6
Looks like the current staff is not too heart broken. If Neal is good, we are good.
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Post by Troystet on Jun 2, 2015 16:21:54 GMT -6
I well remember a Third Stringer named "3Notch Levi" The thing that gets overlooked is Levi played at Richmond before transferring so it wasn't like he had no game experience. Sure would like to have him back though
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jun 2, 2015 17:02:28 GMT -6
I well remember a Third Stringer named "3Notch Levi" The thing that gets overlooked is Levi played at Richmond before transferring so it wasn't like he had no game experience. Sure would like to have him back though He wasn't the starter...
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Post by Troystet on Jun 2, 2015 19:40:02 GMT -6
The thing that gets overlooked is Levi played at Richmond before transferring so it wasn't like he had no game experience. Sure would like to have him back though He wasn't the starter... I believe he started a few games or played quite a bit. Coaching change happened there I know. My point was he had game experience which helped.
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Post by northgatrojan15 on Jun 3, 2015 6:31:55 GMT -6
It's unfortunate but kids will come and go, a lot more at skill positions and higher profile roles. What we don't know:
1. Locker room attitude 2. Team support 3. Selfish and self engrossing negativity 4. CNB us a QB guy, so it is possible the 2 didn't mesh
We landed an Auburn DB a few weeks ago, so... it happens.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jun 3, 2015 7:47:55 GMT -6
Well, he's a semester ahead of his class of recruits. If he goes to a k juco, he can be back at the FB$ level as a midterm signee. I just believe he wanted to play now and not sit.
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Post by saintflorian on Jun 3, 2015 8:31:07 GMT -6
Well, he's a semester ahead of his class of recruits. If he goes to a k juco, he can be back at the FB$ level as a midterm signee. I just believe he wanted to play now and not sit. Exactly why I say not a loss. Don't need that attitude or potential strife that it could lead to on team right now. CNB said we will be ok , I believe him.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jun 3, 2015 10:37:08 GMT -6
Well, he's a semester ahead of his class of recruits. If he goes to a k juco, he can be back at the FB$ level as a midterm signee. I just believe he wanted to play now and not sit. Exactly why I say not a loss. Don't need that attitude or potential strife that it could lead to on team right now. CNB said we will be ok , I believe him. He also posted a Peyton Manning quote about loving to be coached...not reading anything into it, just sayin'...
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Post by Troystet on Jun 3, 2015 11:00:16 GMT -6
He didn't show me much in the spring. Slow feet and holds the ball to long. He might develop but no way was he ready to play now,
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Post by Redwaver on Jun 3, 2015 13:34:58 GMT -6
A lot depends on the year Silvers has. A great year I don't see a JUCO qb signing with a junior qb who has started two years. A bad year and anything is possible, including a true freshman starting. 2015 will tell. That's exactly why I can't understand why Minchew left. Redshirt, then spend one more year learning then it might be all yours. He won't find a better opportunity at this level anywhere else. Maybe D11 or lower. If that's what he wants.....lots of luck. You can't blame him for wanting to Play but IF he was THAT good some power conference school would have scoffed him up.....but he would still have had to wait.
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Post by trojanbaseballfan on Jun 3, 2015 13:56:11 GMT -6
Well, he's a semester ahead of his class of recruits. If he goes to a k juco, he can be back at the FB$ level as a midterm signee. I just believe he wanted to play now and not sit. Exactly why I say not a loss. Don't need that attitude or potential strife that it could lead to on team right now. CNB said we will be ok , I believe him. The majority of players who aren't playing for one reason or another DON'T cause strife or issues in the locker room.
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Post by saintflorian on Jun 3, 2015 14:14:50 GMT -6
Exactly why I say not a loss. Don't need that attitude or potential strife that it could lead to on team right now. CNB said we will be ok , I believe him. The majority of players who aren't playing for one reason or another DON'T cause strife or issues in the locker room. Note you said majority. All it takes is one bad seed. It has happened at Troy, many can attest to that. Also, a majority of players on the 2nd and 3rd team understand why they are on the 2nd and 3rd team, it doesn't mean they are not good or try hard but they trust the coaches and understand the guy ahead of him is a little bit better. This player believes he should be starting,Coach thought otherwise. He transferred. Wish him the best of luck. Back to my original statement, not a loss. Coach is not worried, I trust him.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jun 3, 2015 14:26:51 GMT -6
The majority of players who aren't playing for one reason or another DON'T cause strife or issues in the locker room. Note you said majority. All it takes is one bad seed. It has happened at Troy, many can attest to that. Also, a majority of players on the 2nd and 3rd team understand why they are on the 2nd and 3rd team, it doesn't mean they are not good or try hard but they trust the coaches and understand the guy ahead of him is a little bit better. This player believes he should be starting,Coach thought otherwise. He transferred. Wish him the best of luck. Back to my original statement, not a loss. Coach is not worried, I trust him. So, now we should no longer have an opinion on it and stop discussing it because of your original statement?
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Post by saintflorian on Jun 3, 2015 14:28:08 GMT -6
Note you said majority. All it takes is one bad seed. It has happened at Troy, many can attest to that. Also, a majority of players on the 2nd and 3rd team understand why they are on the 2nd and 3rd team, it doesn't mean they are not good or try hard but they trust the coaches and understand the guy ahead of him is a little bit better. This player believes he should be starting,Coach thought otherwise. He transferred. Wish him the best of luck. Back to my original statement, not a loss. Coach is not worried, I trust him. So, now we should no longer have an opinion on it and stop discussing it because of your original statement? Let's discuss. What say you ?
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jun 3, 2015 14:43:39 GMT -6
My original statement was he enrolled early and felt he should've been the starter. There seems to be some people here that have a concern about the depth chart for the QB position...what do you think?
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Post by saintflorian on Jun 3, 2015 15:33:26 GMT -6
My original statement was he enrolled early and felt he should've been the starter. There seems to be some people here that have a concern about the depth chart for the QB position...what do you think? We have Silvers, Pruitt and The Tree at QB this year. I think with Dr. Evil pulling the strings, we could win with any of them. The kid believing he should start in front of these three backs up his sourness in my mind and again why we should not cry in the breast milk over his loss. CNB has a plan for next year and the depth at QB. Surely he hopes Silvers blossoms and continues his march on the Troy record books for a few more years after this one. But look for him to bring in some freshman that are higher than normally touted QB talent for Troy and maybe an older graduated transfer from a Power 5 school. Depth is always an issue when staff's change. If Silvers can blossom under Evil's teaching the next several years look out. If Silvers busts after this year, we will have some bumps.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Jun 3, 2015 15:58:54 GMT -6
Let's look at a couple of points from your post. Silvers had an NCAA record for freshman completion %...70.5 iirc...With that he only threw for 1800 yds. Troy QBs generally throw for double that...hopefully his production is better with the coaching changes. That's the only way he gets any farther into the record books. There's no guarantee Silvers will be that guy, but I'll cheer for him to be. As troystet mentioned, of the four remaining, 3 are gone after the season. A midterm guy is a must, I agree, but how often does a P5 QB fall into your lap?
Not crying in the breast milk, but, from a fan's perspective, there's some concern about depth at the position.
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