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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 30, 2014 12:16:32 GMT -6
This is going off of what was reported...
5 year contract worth about 3.5 million. Meaning 700k annually. Which would make him tied for the 2nd highest paid HC in the SBC with Blake Anderson at Ark State.
I'm more interested to see what we pay the assistants. I believe KE was making around 116k. And bolt around 130k.
We need to bump both of those up atleast around 50k each IMO. What's everyone's thoughts?
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Post by trojans91 on Nov 30, 2014 12:19:32 GMT -6
Glad to see your post. I was about to ask the same questions. Will getting the numbers up to around 175K get the appropriate staff? Also, what $$$ would be needed for the new coach to bring his staff from Kentucky?
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 30, 2014 12:22:29 GMT -6
Glad to see your post. I was about to ask the same questions. Will getting the numbers up to around 175K get the appropriate staff? Also, what $$$ would be needed for the new coach to bring his staff from Kentucky? I think it would help yes... For example most FCS HCs are paid in the 150-200k range. Maybe grabbing a good FCS OC or DC. That's just a suggestion.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 30, 2014 12:28:08 GMT -6
Glad to see your post. I was about to ask the same questions. Will getting the numbers up to around 175K get the appropriate staff? Also, what $$$ would be needed for the new coach to bring his staff from Kentucky? I think it would help yes... For example most FCS HCs are paid in the 150-200k range. Maybe grabbing a good FCS OC or DC. That's just a suggestion. Great idea
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Post by doc71 on Nov 30, 2014 12:42:41 GMT -6
Glad to see your post. I was about to ask the same questions. Will getting the numbers up to around 175K get the appropriate staff? Also, what $$$ would be needed for the new coach to bring his staff from Kentucky? Would think the only possible way to entice Schlarman would be by making him OC. Even then, it would be big pay cut ... And he's a Uk guy. But, we can wish! Watched many o-line coaches work though the years, at all levels of D1. John is without doubt one of best in business!
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 30, 2014 12:54:21 GMT -6
Examples.....
Ark State assistant salaries
OC Walt Bell- 205k
OL Glen Elarbee- 200k
DC joe Cauthen- 145k
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Post by Troystet on Nov 30, 2014 12:56:58 GMT -6
Glad to see your post. I was about to ask the same questions. Will getting the numbers up to around 175K get the appropriate staff? Also, what $$$ would be needed for the new coach to bring his staff from Kentucky? Would think the only possible way to entice Schlarman would be by making him OC. Even then, it would be big pay cut ... And he's a Uk guy. But, we can wish! Watched many o-line coaches work though the years, at all levels of D1. John is without doubt one of best in business! Absolutely agree. John was an awesome OL coach
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 30, 2014 12:59:18 GMT -6
Would think the only possible way to entice Schlarman would be by making him OC. Even then, it would be big pay cut ... And he's a Uk guy. But, we can wish! Watched many o-line coaches work though the years, at all levels of D1. John is without doubt one of best in business! Absolutely agree. John was an awesome OL coach He is paid 200k as the OL coach at UK.... I think we could match that Maybe even break the bank a little and pay him more to be our OC
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Post by Troystet on Nov 30, 2014 13:14:45 GMT -6
Absolutely agree. John was an awesome OL coach He is paid 200k as the OL coach at UK.... I think we could match that Maybe even break the bank a little and pay him more to be our OC The only problem is we need him as OL coach, Dye was beyond horrible. I think Neal will have a lot of say in play selection imo, maybe even calls the plays himself.
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Post by trojan2003 on Nov 30, 2014 13:20:15 GMT -6
He is paid 200k as the OL coach at UK.... I think we could match that Maybe even break the bank a little and pay him more to be our OC The only problem is we need him as OL coach, Dye was beyond horrible. I think Neal will have a lot of say in play selection imo, maybe even calls the plays himself. Shouldn't be a problem. That's what Leach, Fedora, Malzahn, etc do... name Schlarman Co-OC, pay him 200k+x, let him coach the O-line plus handle some other OC duties.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 30, 2014 13:27:34 GMT -6
The only problem is we need him as OL coach, Dye was beyond horrible. I think Neal will have a lot of say in play selection imo, maybe even calls the plays himself. Shouldn't be a problem. That's what Leach, Fedora, Malzahn, etc do... name Schlarman Co-OC, pay him 200k+x, let him coach the O-line plus handle some other OC duties. I'm in facebookthumbup
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 30, 2014 13:30:29 GMT -6
I'm ready to hear what Brown has to say!!!
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Post by Mark Gainey on Nov 30, 2014 13:30:36 GMT -6
Heard that part of the deal is a significant increase in coordinators' salaries.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 30, 2014 13:31:31 GMT -6
Heard that part of the deal is a significant increase in coordinators' salaries. I also heard the End Zone facility will be in his contract.
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 30, 2014 13:54:12 GMT -6
This is going off of what was reported... 5 year contract worth about 3.5 million. Meaning 700k annually. Which would make him tied for the 2nd highest paid HC in the SBC with Blake Anderson at Ark State. I'm more interested to see what we pay the assistants. I believe KE was making around 116k. And bolt around 130k. We need to bump both of those up atleast around 50k each IMO. What's everyone's thoughts? To answer your question, yes, the POSITIONS needs an increase in salary but I think changes need to be made with the increase. This is the time to start toward a total turn a round, a fresh start. I think this (who to keep) could be Browns first HUGE decision. As a side note, I'm left wondering, if all this money is available now, why not 2-3-4 years ago so LB could hire quality assistants? That one is on Dr Hawkins!
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 30, 2014 13:57:01 GMT -6
This is going off of what was reported... 5 year contract worth about 3.5 million. Meaning 700k annually. Which would make him tied for the 2nd highest paid HC in the SBC with Blake Anderson at Ark State. I'm more interested to see what we pay the assistants. I believe KE was making around 116k. And bolt around 130k. We need to bump both of those up atleast around 50k each IMO. What's everyone's thoughts? To answer your question, yes, the POSITIONS needs an increase in salary but I think changes need to be made with the increase. This is the time to start toward a total turn a round, a fresh start. I think this (who to keep) could be Browns first HUGE decision. As a side note, I'm left wondering, if all this money is available now, why not 2-3-4 years ago so LB could hire quality assistants? That one is on Dr Hawkins! Do more with less mentality and Larry Blakeney... This mentality is no longer a option. Or should it have been to start with.
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Nov 30, 2014 14:00:37 GMT -6
This is going off of what was reported... 5 year contract worth about 3.5 million. Meaning 700k annually. Which would make him tied for the 2nd highest paid HC in the SBC with Blake Anderson at Ark State. I'm more interested to see what we pay the assistants. I believe KE was making around 116k. And bolt around 130k. We need to bump both of those up atleast around 50k each IMO. What's everyone's thoughts? To answer your question, yes, the POSITIONS needs an increase in salary but I think changes need to be made with the increase. This is the time to start toward a total turn a round, a fresh start. I think this (who to keep) could be Browns first HUGE decision. As a side note, I'm left wondering, if all this money is available now, why not 2-3-4 years ago so LB could hire quality assistants? That one is on Dr Hawkins! I thought I read somewhere on this board that Dr. Hawkins DOESN'T get involved in these things.....hum..... You're A B S O L U T E L Y RIGHT, this lies more at the feet of Dr. Hawkins more so than ALL of the Athletic Staff combined. HE HAS ALWAYS HELD the ONLY vote that counts, that is the " hiring and firing" of anyone at Troy, here or abroad.
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 30, 2014 14:15:19 GMT -6
He is paid 200k as the OL coach at UK.... I think we could match that Maybe even break the bank a little and pay him more to be our OC The only problem is we need him as OL coach, Dye was beyond horrible. I think Neal will have a lot of say in play selection imo, maybe even calls the plays himself. I would like Schlarman being OC but being responsible for the line and let Briwn call plays (until we play LSU again ha ha). It's funny how we are now finding all this money that we needed 4 years ago when WE HAD THESE GUYS AT TROY!
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 30, 2014 14:17:14 GMT -6
To answer your question, yes, the POSITIONS needs an increase in salary but I think changes need to be made with the increase. This is the time to start toward a total turn a round, a fresh start. I think this (who to keep) could be Browns first HUGE decision. As a side note, I'm left wondering, if all this money is available now, why not 2-3-4 years ago so LB could hire quality assistants? That one is on Dr Hawkins! Do more with less mentality and Larry Blakeney... This mentality is no longer a option. Or should it have been to start with. Maybe if all this money had suddenly appeared 4 years ago you might not be saying "and Larry Blakeney"!
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Nov 30, 2014 14:23:03 GMT -6
Paying a staff more money than the last provides incentive. If we upped our previous staff to 700K plus increases in assistant salaries, we'd be up to 850/900K for a HC and we'd be back to griping about why we didn't pay the previous staff that much money. It's also possible we didn't have the money during our title run. Go ahead and list our big time donors and their fat checks to Troy Athletics. Don't worry, I'll wait. If you asked that about ULL and Arkansas State recently, their fans would rattle off their big time donors. There have a been a few for those schools where there have been zero for Troy, to my knowledge.
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Post by Bubba the Trojan on Nov 30, 2014 14:41:21 GMT -6
Paying a staff more money than the last provides incentive. If we upped our previous staff to 700K plus increases in assistant salaries, we'd be up to 850/900K for a HC and we'd be back to griping about why we didn't pay the previous staff that much money. It's also possible we didn't have the money during our title run. Go ahead and list our big time donors and their fat checks to Troy Athletics. Don't worry, I'll wait. If you asked that about ULL and Arkansas State recently, their fans would rattle off their big time donors. There have a been a few for those schools where there have been zero for Troy, to my knowledge. Nail on head. We actually had 2 big time donors, one convicted, one bankrupt, that failed to produce the resources promised. By the time it was obvious Schrushy was not going to produce as promised, we had completed a major stadium expansion. Then Movie Gallery came along in an attempt to help fund the program. Their business model failed (remember renting VHS movies....that was so long ago) and they went bankrupt. Then the economy tanked overall. In spite of these events, the stadium expansion had to be paid for. We've spent the better part of a decade paying for a stadium expansion completed on the promise of money to come. It has hampered our efforts to expand our facilities. I hope those days are behind us.
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 30, 2014 15:34:23 GMT -6
Paying a staff more money than the last provides incentive. If we upped our previous staff to 700K plus increases in assistant salaries, we'd be up to 850/900K for a HC and we'd be back to griping about why we didn't pay the previous staff that much money. It's also possible we didn't have the money during our title run. Go ahead and list our big time donors and their fat checks to Troy Athletics. Don't worry, I'll wait. If you asked that about ULL and Arkansas State recently, their fans would rattle off their big time donors. There have a been a few for those schools where there have been zero for Troy, to my knowledge. I'm not talking title run, I'm talking when Schlarman, Brown and others were here but left. We sat on salaries and let them go. I understand that money even effected the kiting of our last DC...or the lack of it.
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Post by trojans91 on Nov 30, 2014 15:47:45 GMT -6
Well, I hope Hawkins gets off the cash and provides Neal with the appropriate budget to hire a productive/proven staff. On another note we need to clean house......
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 30, 2014 17:46:30 GMT -6
This is going off of what was reported... 5 year contract worth about 3.5 million. Meaning 700k annually. Which would make him tied for the 2nd highest paid HC in the SBC with Blake Anderson at Ark State. I'm more interested to see what we pay the assistants. I believe KE was making around 116k. And bolt around 130k. We need to bump both of those up atleast around 50k each IMO. What's everyone's thoughts? To answer your question, yes, the POSITIONS needs an increase in salary but I think changes need to be made with the increase. This is the time to start toward a total turn a round, a fresh start. I think this (who to keep) could be Browns first HUGE decision. As a side note, I'm left wondering, if all this money is available now, why not 2-3-4 years ago so LB could hire quality assistants? That one is on Dr Hawkins! By Larry's own omission, he packed it in after 2011. Why invest in something going forward if the person know themselves they are done ?
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 30, 2014 17:56:02 GMT -6
To answer your question, yes, the POSITIONS needs an increase in salary but I think changes need to be made with the increase. This is the time to start toward a total turn a round, a fresh start. I think this (who to keep) could be Browns first HUGE decision. As a side note, I'm left wondering, if all this money is available now, why not 2-3-4 years ago so LB could hire quality assistants? That one is on Dr Hawkins! By Larry's own omission, he packed it in after 2011. Why invest in something going forward if the person know themselves they are done ? Share with me the article where Larry said he quit ("packed it in") after the 2011 season. I must have missed that!
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