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Post by Mr. Ho on Nov 27, 2014 20:00:47 GMT -6
Little Jimmy Hartwell on the verge of missing a huge opportunity. Bright shiny objects are too distracting for LJH and Dear Leader. What might that opportunity be, and how many FBS coaches have you hired? Easy ladies, emotions are running pretty high right now.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 27, 2014 20:20:50 GMT -6
What might that opportunity be, and how many FBS coaches have you hired? Easy ladies, emotions are running pretty high right now. I'm always intrigued by those people that think they know more about hiring a coach than the athletic director. I don't think emotions are high at all. There is a little excitement in the air though.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 27, 2014 20:44:35 GMT -6
I'm excited.
I can't wait to see who the new coach is. And hear what he has to say about our future!
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Post by flivverford on Nov 27, 2014 21:56:13 GMT -6
What might that opportunity be, and how many FBS coaches have you hired? Easy ladies, emotions are running pretty high right now. Ho knows everything, we can trust Ho.
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Post by Mark Gainey on Nov 28, 2014 9:54:36 GMT -6
What are you basing that on? I can't imagine Dr Hawkins playing any part in the selection process other than financial. I just wonder, as it relates to him, if we have more money for coaches salaries now why not earlier to help LB gets better assistants. Inquiring minds want to understand!:-) Seriously? Jack Hawkins is the process. Always has been always will be.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 28, 2014 9:59:34 GMT -6
I can't imagine Dr Hawkins playing any part in the selection process other than financial. I just wonder, as it relates to him, if we have more money for coaches salaries now why not earlier to help LB gets better assistants. Inquiring minds want to understand!:-) Seriously? Jack Hawkins is the process. Always has been always will be. If he is we might be getting Zinn Su Taun, head coach of the Bejing Beef & Brocollis.
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Post by doc71 on Nov 28, 2014 10:46:23 GMT -6
Little Jimmy Hartwell on the verge of missing a huge opportunity. Bright shiny objects are too distracting for LJH and Dear Leader. What might that opportunity be, and how many FBS coaches have you hired? Well, I think I've hired the same number of FBS coaches that JH has hired ... 0! So, this is a new experience for him and for Dr. Hawkins. The last hire at Troy was a DII coach! Thankfully, LB was able to transition to become successful FBS coach as well! I like and respect JH. And, of course he knows more of the "business" of sports than I do! Think the world of Dr. Hawkins. (could certainly argue he's done more for Troy U than any one man in our history!!) So, we can sit back and hope they pick the "right" person! And that Coach picks the "right" staff, etc. Of course, we'll know if the choices were good choices in a few years!! Merry Christmas!! (too soon?
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 28, 2014 10:47:58 GMT -6
I can't imagine Dr Hawkins playing any part in the selection process other than financial. I just wonder, as it relates to him, if we have more money for coaches salaries now why not earlier to help LB gets better assistants. Inquiring minds want to understand!:-) Seriously? Jack Hawkins is the process. Always has been always will be. Dr Hawkins may know money, education or China but I don't think he knows diddly about coaching football and I think he realizes that as well. I just believe he trust JH enough to let him and the committee make that call. He has never had to deal with any other football hire except LB. I don't know any evidence that shows he interfered in JH's other hires, do you?
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Nov 28, 2014 10:48:29 GMT -6
Seriously? Jack Hawkins is the process. Always has been always will be. If he is we might be getting Zinn Su Taun, head coach of the Bejing Beef & Brocollis. "IF" HE IS? Really? I thought you were close to the program, close to the "ins and outs" at Troy, especially when it comes to athletics. If so, then you would NEVER state, "..if he is (Dr. Jack)..." Because he is ALWAYS INVOLVED!! An $8 an hour admin staff person MUST BE BLESSED, prior to hire, you can bet your family car lot that Dr. Hawkins is "involved" and NOT just his signature on the front of the check!!!
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Post by Troystet on Nov 28, 2014 10:53:45 GMT -6
If he is we might be getting Zinn Su Taun, head coach of the Bejing Beef & Brocollis. "IF" HE IS? Really? I thought you were close to the program, close to the "ins and outs" at Troy, especially when it comes to athletics. If so, then you would NEVER state, "..if he is (Dr. Jack)..." Because he is ALWAYS INVOLVED!! An $8 an hour admin staff person MUST BE BLESSED, prior to hire, you can bet your family car lot that Dr. Hawkins is "involved" and NOT just his signature on the front of the check!!! Of course he is involved, but to what extent. I imagine he has the actual say so on who gets hired, maybe not the "who" but he has to approve the choice. The China reference was a joke..but seriously, not really.
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Nov 28, 2014 10:58:58 GMT -6
No doubt Dr. Hawkins is responsible for the "great things" that have been done during his tenure, BUT, he is ALSO responsible for the "NOT SO GOOD" at Troy. Hell, he doesn't even live at the university residence, he LIVES in Montgomery!!!! Why? So Janis can have a better "social presence"?? Who knows, but don't ever think he isn't " responsible" because he/she makes "ALL" the calls, fiscally and otherwise.....
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Nov 28, 2014 11:08:22 GMT -6
"IF" HE IS? Really? I thought you were close to the program, close to the "ins and outs" at Troy, especially when it comes to athletics. If so, then you would NEVER state, "..if he is (Dr. Jack)..." Because he is ALWAYS INVOLVED!! An $8 an hour admin staff person MUST BE BLESSED, prior to hire, you can bet your family car lot that Dr. Hawkins is "involved" and NOT just his signature on the front of the check!!! Of course he is involved, but to what extent. I imagine he has the actual say so on who gets hired, maybe not the "who" but he has to approve the choice. The China reference was a joke..but seriously, not really. Not a real "funny joke" in my opinion. For those of us who went to school at Troy, but not ever stepping on campus, yet we still accepted and overwhelmingly EMBRACED OUR SCHOOL when we could, take offense to the constant baggering of Troys ability to generate students all over the world. I am so glad that I didn't meet that "attitude" when I got the chance to support my alma mater in way I always wanted to. Had I, well suffice to say my "contributions" would have been Z E R O!! That type of arrogance I hold for Alabama, Auburn, FSU, Florida (and I have a child there now) and ANY OTHER SCHOOL, PERIOD.. But, I guess I should look elsewhere, since I didn't go to Troy-MAIN......
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 28, 2014 11:25:29 GMT -6
Of course he is involved, but to what extent. I imagine he has the actual say so on who gets hired, maybe not the "who" but he has to approve the choice. The China reference was a joke..but seriously, not really. Not a real "funny joke" in my opinion. For those of us who went to school at Troy, but not ever stepping on campus, yet we still accepted and overwhelmingly EMBRACED OUR SCHOOL when we could, take offense to the constant baggering of Troys ability to generate students all over the world. I am so glad that I didn't meet that "attitude" when I got the chance to support my alma mater in way I always wanted to. Had I, well suffice to say my "contributions" would have been Z E R O!! That type of arrogance I hold for Alabama, Auburn, FSU, Florida (and I have a child there now) and ANY OTHER SCHOOL, PERIOD.. But, I guess I should look elsewhere, since I didn't go to Troy-MAIN...... Troy always supports graduates no matter their place of attendance. Sadly, all off campus Troy graduates don't support their university like you do. I know of tons who got their degree from Troy but wear all the big boys stuff. Ticks me off and I tell them that. I usually get the "Troy doesn't play big time sports" crap but then these fans didn't play sports at all. Troy gave them the opportunity for a career so the least they could do is give back the support. I do not care for the China infatuation. If we spent those efforts on making our USA presents better I think we, as a university system, would be better but that's just my opinion. It does provide some wonderful travel adventures for some who get that privilege though. Living in Troy should be a requirement for our next president, like it or not. The community needs to feel you respect them if you want them to respect your brand!
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Nov 28, 2014 11:36:35 GMT -6
Not a real "funny joke" in my opinion. For those of us who went to school at Troy, but not ever stepping on campus, yet we still accepted and overwhelmingly EMBRACED OUR SCHOOL when we could, take offense to the constant baggering of Troys ability to generate students all over the world. I am so glad that I didn't meet that "attitude" when I got the chance to support my alma mater in way I always wanted to. Had I, well suffice to say my "contributions" would have been Z E R O!! That type of arrogance I hold for Alabama, Auburn, FSU, Florida (and I have a child there now) and ANY OTHER SCHOOL, PERIOD.. But, I guess I should look elsewhere, since I didn't go to Troy-MAIN...... Troy always supports graduates no matter their place if attendance. Sadly, all off campus Troy graduates don't support their university like you do.i know of tons who got their degree from Triy but wear lol the big boys stuff. Ticks me off and I tell them that. I usually get the "Troy doesn't play big time sports" but then these fans didn't Play at all. Troy gave them the opportunity for a career do the least they could do is give back the support. I do no care for the China infatuation. If we spent those efforts on making our USA presents better I think we, as a university system, would be better but that's just my opinion. I does provide some wonderful travel adventures for some though. That is an opinion, yours. I respect that. I don't respect being "stereotypically" disrespected, intended or unintended. As for the "Big time sports" thing, I get that, say it ALL THE TIME, but mostly to ANYONE who graduated at one school and supports another, Paul Finebaum for example. That problem exists on campus as well, RIGHT NOW, and should be much more disturbing to us, than what the U. S. Serviceman/woman graduate does/doesn't do to support Troy (financially or otherwise). And that, Red wave, is MY opinion.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 28, 2014 11:39:47 GMT -6
Pros and cons to the international students. Almost 10% of the main campus is international. Not sure how that works but I assume they pay little to nothing to attend, if true then it cuts into the budget and/or raises the costs for students. It is good what the Sorrell a College of Business is doing with the outreach to China but how does that help education, music or other majors? Like I said..pros and cons.
I have no problem with any Troy Alum...main campus, branch, military etc. Their Troy degree is no different than mine. Trojans One And All. And one of the biggest Troy fans I know doesn't have any ties at all to Troy but choses to support them. If you have a Troy degree you are family, whether you are from China or Childersburgh. It's just my opinion that Troy has overdone the international student program. Jmo for what's it's worth.
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Post by doc71 on Nov 28, 2014 11:49:04 GMT -6
Pros and cons to the international students. Almost 10% of the main campus is international. Not sure how that works but I assume they pay little to nothing to attend, if true then it cuts into the budget and/or raises the costs for students. It is good what the Sorrell a College of Business is doing with the outreach to China but how does that help education, music or other majors? Like I said..pros and cons. I have no problem with any Troy Alum...main campus, branch, military etc. Their Troy degree is no different than mine. Trojans One And All. And one of the biggest Troy fans I know doesn't have any ties at all to Troy but choses to support them. If you have a Troy degree you are family, whether you are from China or Childersburgh. It's just my opinion that Troy has overdone the international student program. Jmo for what's it's worth. Agree ... Trojans One and All!! Note on International students ... They pay out of state Tuition!!! Even if they're part of some grant/exchange program ... Tuition and Fees are paid!! Also, most are On campus ... so good for housing/dining, etc. So, they're a great source of revenue for any college. (that's why many colleges/universities have full-time recruiters who do nothing but recruit International students!) And, of course, we live in the 21st century ... Global economy, society, etc. Most international students choose US schools based on "word of mouth" ... so be kind to an international student if you have a chance ... of course, it's just good to be kind ... but also, it's good for Recruiting!!
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Post by Troystet on Nov 28, 2014 11:58:17 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing. My understanding was they came on scholarships. So if the are paying their way then no problem. Like I said, it's is a huge plus for the business school for sure. Not sure how it helps other depts but you never know. I do hope they support Troy somehow after they leave. I will say that the student who won the affinity competition for attending Sporting events was international. Maybe our home grown students could take a lesson.
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Nov 28, 2014 14:38:21 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing. My understanding was they came on scholarships. So if the are paying their way then no problem. Like I said, it's is a huge plus for the business school for sure. Not sure how it helps other depts but you never know. I do hope they support Troy somehow after they leave. I will say that the student who won the affinity competition for attending Sporting events was international. Maybe our home grown students could take a lesson. Sometimes what we think to be true really isn't.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 28, 2014 14:45:56 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing. My understanding was they came on scholarships. So if the are paying their way then no problem. Like I said, it's is a huge plus for the business school for sure. Not sure how it helps other depts but you never know. I do hope they support Troy somehow after they leave. I will say that the student who won the affinity competition for attending Sporting events was international. Maybe our home grown students could take a lesson. Sometimes what we think to be true really isn't. And I will always admit when I'm wrong. I had heard that international students came for free, that, evidently is false.
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Post by lassiter5858 on Nov 28, 2014 15:43:10 GMT -6
I had heard that also
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 28, 2014 15:54:50 GMT -6
Troy always supports graduates no matter their place if attendance. Sadly, all off campus Troy graduates don't support their university like you do.i know of tons who got their degree from Triy but wear lol the big boys stuff. Ticks me off and I tell them that. I usually get the "Troy doesn't play big time sports" but then these fans didn't Play at all. Troy gave them the opportunity for a career do the least they could do is give back the support. I do no care for the China infatuation. If we spent those efforts on making our USA presents better I think we, as a university system, would be better but that's just my opinion. I does provide some wonderful travel adventures for some though. That is an opinion, yours. I respect that. I don't respect being "stereotypically" disrespected, intended or unintended. As for the "Big time sports" thing, I get that, say it ALL THE TIME, but mostly to ANYONE who graduated at one school and supports another, Paul Finebaum for example. That problem exists on campus as well, RIGHT NOW, and should be much more disturbing to us, than what the U. S. Serviceman/woman graduate does/doesn't do to support Troy (financially or otherwise). And that, Red wave, is MY opinion. I think you need to reread my post or I need to reread yours. I THOUGHT I SUPPORTED YOU AND YOUR POINT COMPLETELY! Yes, it's my opinion that a lot of Troy grads from off main campus sites do not support Troy but some other more well known universitys. We also agree in the end of your post about on campus students as well! That's evident every home game. What on earth did I say in my comments Navarre Trojan that got you so stirred? Geez, have you gotten I to the spirit too early? It's the holidays and all is good.
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 28, 2014 15:57:57 GMT -6
Pros and cons to the international students. Almost 10% of the main campus is international. Not sure how that works but I assume they pay little to nothing to attend, if true then it cuts into the budget and/or raises the costs for students. It is good what the Sorrell a College of Business is doing with the outreach to China but how does that help education, music or other majors? Like I said..pros and cons. I have no problem with any Troy Alum...main campus, branch, military etc. Their Troy degree is no different than mine. Trojans One And All. And one of the biggest Troy fans I know doesn't have any ties at all to Troy but choses to support them. If you have a Troy degree you are family, whether you are from China or Childersburgh. It's just my opinion that Troy has overdone the international student program. Jmo for what's it's worth. Well said!
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Post by troyjan95 on Nov 28, 2014 17:31:26 GMT -6
Tommie Robinson - only know what i have read online about him. Does anyone know him and if yes, what are your thoughts?
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 28, 2014 19:04:06 GMT -6
I'm gonna say... Neal Brown gets hired.
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Post by Navarre Trojan on Nov 28, 2014 19:14:15 GMT -6
That is an opinion, yours. I respect that. I don't respect being "stereotypically" disrespected, intended or unintended. As for the "Big time sports" thing, I get that, say it ALL THE TIME, but mostly to ANYONE who graduated at one school and supports another, Paul Finebaum for example. That problem exists on campus as well, RIGHT NOW, and should be much more disturbing to us, than what the U. S. Serviceman/woman graduate does/doesn't do to support Troy (financially or otherwise). And that, Red wave, is MY opinion. I think you need to reread my post or I need to reread yours. I THOUGHT I SUPPORTED YOU AND YOUR POINT COMPLETELY! Yes, it's my opinion that a lot of Troy grads from off main campus sites do not support Troy but some other more well known universitys. We also agree in the end of your post about on campus students as well! That's evident every home game. What on earth did I say in my comments Navarre Trojan that got you so stirred? Geez, have you gotten I to the spirit too early? It's the holidays and all is good. YES YOU DID, and, "no, I am not in the Holiday Spirit", your opinion and mine ARE very similar. My point was regarding an earlier conversation regarding an attitude that some on this board portray and that is that if you didn't go to Troy, in Troy then your really not Troy, your just Troy from Kadena, Okinawa and you don't count. That was my point, too many times a reference is made by someone or something Troy is doing, outside of Pike County, and voiced as some sort of negative. My comments were not about " YOUR" response, it was the conversation in general. Basically, people shoot their fingers off about some graduate from the "beef and broccoli" school, and it strikes a nerve with some of us that are proud graduates of Troy University yet didn't get to "Main Campus" until much later, but we got there..
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