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Post by trojanempire on Nov 8, 2014 13:09:06 GMT -6
He appears to be one of the few guys still trying to be a team player this year and, like them or not, appears to respect the coaching staff and do what is asked and not openly whine.
Thoughts?
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Post by trojanexplosion on Nov 10, 2014 14:06:43 GMT -6
Just saw a tweet that's saying Tidwell is now the backup behind Silvers. Wonder what made this happen...
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Post by trojanbrutha on Nov 10, 2014 16:41:01 GMT -6
The same decision makers are still in place...I defer to their knowledge as coaches, but I thought he would've been the man heading into the season...but what do I know...?
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 10, 2014 16:47:36 GMT -6
The same decision makers are still in place...I defer to their knowledge as coaches, but I thought he would've been the man heading into the season...but what do I know...? I will wonder what these decision makers based their decisions on ? maybe they utilize a dart board or a decoder ring ?
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Nov 10, 2014 16:51:12 GMT -6
It goes like this:
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Post by trojanbrutha on Nov 10, 2014 17:51:24 GMT -6
The same decision makers are still in place...I defer to their knowledge as coaches, but I thought he would've been the man heading into the season...but what do I know...? I will wonder what these decision makers based their decisions on ? maybe they utilize a dart board or a decoder ring ? I just hope that the new staff can put the pieces to this puzzle back together...in the event we don't lose too many pieces...
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Post by Troystet on Nov 10, 2014 17:56:51 GMT -6
I will wonder what these decision makers based their decisions on ? maybe they utilize a dart board or a decoder ring ? I just hope that the new staff can put the pieces to this puzzle back together...in the event we don't lose too many pieces... It will be interesting how the recruiting goes. Depending on whether any transfer we will have 3 senior QB's (two with very, very little game experience and one with none) and a Sophmore qb with a season under his belt. That means unless they recruit a qb in 2015 we have a junior qb and that's it. I also look for two to transfer imo so that leaves us two next season if that happens.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Nov 10, 2014 18:00:50 GMT -6
I just hope that the new staff can put the pieces to this puzzle back together...in the event we don't lose too many pieces... It will be interesting how the recruiting goes. Depending on whether any transfer we will have 3 senior QB's (two with very, very little game experience and one with none) and a Sophmore qb with a season under his belt. That means unless they recruit a qb in 2015 we have a junior qb and that's it. I also look for two to transfer imo so that leaves us two next season if that happens. There are an additional 2 walk-on QBs in the fold...
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Post by Troystet on Nov 10, 2014 18:06:25 GMT -6
It will be interesting how the recruiting goes. Depending on whether any transfer we will have 3 senior QB's (two with very, very little game experience and one with none) and a Sophmore qb with a season under his belt. That means unless they recruit a qb in 2015 we have a junior qb and that's it. I also look for two to transfer imo so that leaves us two next season if that happens. There are an additional 2 walk-on QBs in the fold... Yes, but don't think either one are capable. Got to get some depth there for 16.
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Post by troyalumni2003 on Nov 10, 2014 18:13:12 GMT -6
I am not sure that we have 3 that will be seniors next year. Tidwell yes, possibly #9 but looking at #1 roster profile, not he played but one year of JUCO, so that would give him more than 1 year left after this year. Either way, I think we could lose 2-3 to transfers if that is a possibility. I would think taking a HS QB this recruiting year and possibly another JUCO is a must. We have to be able to pass the ball to compete, running will beat easy teams only, and open up the pass game.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 10, 2014 18:27:43 GMT -6
I am not sure that we have 3 that will be seniors next year. Tidwell yes, possibly #9 but looking at #1 roster profile, not he played but one year of JUCO, so that would give him more than 1 year left after this year. Either way, I think we could lose 2-3 to transfers if that is a possibility. I would think taking a HS QB this recruiting year and possibly another JUCO is a must. We have to be able to pass the ball to compete, running will beat easy teams only, and open up the pass game. Brevard didn't play at Northern Iowa before he went juco so he might have redshirted already. Pruitt played this year and is listed as a junior which makes him A senior next year
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Post by trojanbrutha on Nov 10, 2014 18:34:24 GMT -6
There are an additional 2 walk-on QBs in the fold... Yes, but don't think either one are capable. Got to get some depth there for 16. There was that thought about Levi Brown as well...
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Post by Troystet on Nov 10, 2014 18:36:53 GMT -6
Yes, but don't think either one are capable. Got to get some depth there for 16. There was that thought about Levi Brown as well... You never know but Levi had played at Richmond to. Anything is possible
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Post by discophobia on Nov 10, 2014 20:10:09 GMT -6
Hopefully whomever the next OC is will go find us a new Omar like Tony Franklin did when he came to TROY!
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Post by cornhole on Nov 10, 2014 23:08:32 GMT -6
Yes, but don't think either one are capable. Got to get some depth there for 16. There was that thought about Levi Brown as well... Yep, and Neal Brown and his boss thought otherwise? Thank you Bruth...
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Post by crawlspace13 on Nov 11, 2014 7:59:07 GMT -6
There was that thought about Levi Brown as well... Yep, and Neal Brown and his boss thought otherwise? Thank you Bruth... While in hindsight the decision to make Levi 3rd on the chart looks bad, at the time they were looking for the next Omar to keep the system we had in place. They never strayed from that train of thought, so because he couldn't run, Levi was overlooked. So which is worse? Straying from the Franklin mobile QB mold or reworking your winning system to account for an non mobile QB? I honestly don't remember if Hampton really got a chance to develop as a starter or if he was taken down too soon. Same with Jones. Didn't he go out in near the first series he played as starter?
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 11, 2014 8:53:45 GMT -6
Yep, and Neal Brown and his boss thought otherwise? Thank you Bruth... While in hindsight the decision to make Levi 3rd on the chart looks bad, at the time they were looking for the next Omar to keep the system we had in place. They never strayed from that train of thought, so because he couldn't run, Levi was overlooked. So which is worse? Straying from the Franklin mobile QB mold or reworking your winning system to account for an non mobile QB? I honestly don't remember if Hampton really got a chance to develop as a starter or if he was taken down too soon. Same with Jones. Didn't he go out in near the first series he played as starter? Tanner went out very early on, but he did have the best arm of the entire group.
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 11, 2014 10:02:47 GMT -6
While in hindsight the decision to make Levi 3rd on the chart looks bad, at the time they were looking for the next Omar to keep the system we had in place. They never strayed from that train of thought, so because he couldn't run, Levi was overlooked. So which is worse? Straying from the Franklin mobile QB mold or reworking your winning system to account for an non mobile QB? I honestly don't remember if Hampton really got a chance to develop as a starter or if he was taken down too soon. Same with Jones. Didn't he go out in near the first series he played as starter? Tanner went out very early on, but he did have the best arm of the entire group. The spread offense screams for a mobile QB. The name itself says you are spreading out the defense which means they have more real-estate to cover. If routes are not open, scrambling becomes an alternative and effective thus the need for mobility. Pocket passers are a completely different approach. RGIII was good at Baylor because he could do both VERY well.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 11, 2014 14:38:24 GMT -6
Tanner went out very early on, but he did have the best arm of the entire group. The spread offense screams for a mobile QB. The name itself says you are spreading out the defense which means they have more real-estate to cover. If routes are not open, scrambling becomes an alternative and effective thus the need for mobility. Pocket passers are a completely different approach. RGIII was good at Baylor because he could do both VERY well. But we're running Silvers like he was Tebow. Omar was more physical and they didn't make him do the runs this kid has had to do. If we are going to run like this put the triple option in and we have the player to do it some. Kharry Franklin ran the triple option in hs as a qb.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Nov 11, 2014 16:22:00 GMT -6
I think he's more comfortable using his legs as opposed to his arm...
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Post by cornhole on Nov 11, 2014 21:26:46 GMT -6
I think he's more comfortable using his legs as opposed to his arm... Agree 100% Bro! I believe the play caller (OC=KE) calls plays based on the skillset he has to work with; and it seems to be very limited this year, IMO.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 12, 2014 8:12:17 GMT -6
I think he's more comfortable using his legs as opposed to his arm... My only concern is he isn't built like Tebow and Cam but he runs like he is. He has to learn to not take the hits all the time and his dive into the end zone, while great hustle and desire, he could have easily separated his shoulder or broken his neck the way he landed. I gasped when he landed on his head. Experience hopefully makes him wiser.
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Post by troyalumni2003 on Nov 12, 2014 9:02:46 GMT -6
I think he's more comfortable using his legs as opposed to his arm... My only concern is he isn't built like Tebow and Cam but he runs like he is. He has to learn to not take the hits all the time and his dive into the end zone, while great hustle and desire, he could have easily separated his shoulder or broken his neck the way he landed. I gasped when he landed on his head. Experience hopefully makes him wiser. Running like CAM is a stretch, with that being said, if running is the area where his confidence is, why did we not use him as a dual threat QB as we did Deon and use either #1 or #11 like a Corey? Not being able to pass this year, has killed us, and not something you can just fix, anymore that you can just fix and make a pocket passer begin to run. Even Saturday, the one deep ball in the end zone, the receiver had to make the play to catch it. (even though I hate 2 QB systems, its just a question). Diving over into the end zone while its flashy and needed at times, it is brutal to your body and will catch up soon if not careful.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 12, 2014 10:00:38 GMT -6
My only concern is he isn't built like Tebow and Cam but he runs like he is. He has to learn to not take the hits all the time and his dive into the end zone, while great hustle and desire, he could have easily separated his shoulder or broken his neck the way he landed. I gasped when he landed on his head. Experience hopefully makes him wiser. Running like CAM is a stretch, with that being said, if running is the area where his confidence is, why did we not use him as a dual threat QB as we did Deon and use either #1 or #11 like a Corey? Not being able to pass this year, has killed us, and not something you can just fix, anymore that you can just fix and make a pocket passer begin to run. Even Saturday, the one deep ball in the end zone, the receiver had to make the play to catch it. (even though I hate 2 QB systems, its just a question). Diving over into the end zone while its flashy and needed at times, it is brutal to your body and will catch up soon if not careful. He runs like he is cams size. He can't lower his shoulder and try to run over people . When your Tebow size and a beast in the weight room you can but otherwise learn to not take the hits all the time
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Post by Redwaver on Nov 12, 2014 13:20:55 GMT -6
I think he's more comfortable using his legs as opposed to his arm... My only concern is he isn't built like Tebow and Cam but he runs like he is. He has to learn to not take the hits all the time and his dive into the end zone, while great hustle and desire, he could have easily separated his shoulder or broken his neck the way he landed. I gasped when he landed on his head. Experience hopefully makes him wiser. I agree, I felt the same cringe but I suspect he was determined to show some heart or spirit that many on here, INCLUDING ME, said didn't exist within many of this group of players.
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