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Post by Trojan Warrior on Oct 13, 2014 9:46:19 GMT -6
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Post by Mr. Ho on Oct 13, 2014 11:12:12 GMT -6
Consider who write article give little credibility, so Mr. Ho give it big fat NO to all but Evil Genius Neal Brown. Lot of people not like NB but lot of people not like Belichek either and he cut out of same mold. He might not want to come back though. Pretty happy at Kentucky.
Mr. Ho like VK but he might be big splash we need to kick SWLa big mouth in teeth, but what Mr. Ho know?
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Post by jerichojohnny on Oct 13, 2014 12:07:15 GMT -6
Obviously as an FSU alumn I like Pruitt and think a lot of what he did here. I will not opine on whether I think he's a good choice for TROY.
Obviously NB's got the connection so many here are focused on, and I do remember some good days back then.
Ho said "considering the author" but who is Jason Jones?
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Post by Troystet on Oct 13, 2014 12:08:19 GMT -6
Lincoln Riley is the only one on that list I like. He is at a mid-major now and s spread guy. We could pay him $400,000 and he would make twice what he is making, plus young and hungry. These SEC guys will have a tough sell. They are used to the 5 star recruits and giving he real estat tour to recruit.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 13, 2014 13:12:05 GMT -6
Lincoln Riley is the only one on that list I like. He is at a mid-major now and s spread guy. We could pay him $400,000 and he would make twice what he is making, plus young and hungry. These SEC guys will have a tough sell. They are used to the 5 star recruits and giving he real estat tour to recruit. StAte got Malzahn and he wasnt getting 5 star recruits at stAte. If the coach wants to look at Troy as a stepping stone thats fine with me as long as he can get Troy to the next level.
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Post by crowhilltrojan on Oct 13, 2014 13:54:41 GMT -6
For a variety of reasons; I do not in any way, shape or form consider Pruitt as anything approaching a dark horse candidate. I can absolutely see that happening.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 13, 2014 16:14:28 GMT -6
I would love to have pruitt. But Troy will need to offer him 900k + to have a shot.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Oct 13, 2014 16:17:45 GMT -6
Lincoln Riley is the only one on that list I like. He is at a mid-major now and s spread guy. We could pay him $400,000 and he would make twice what he is making, plus young and hungry. These SEC guys will have a tough sell. They are used to the 5 star recruits and giving he real estat tour to recruit. Mr. Ho think same thing today - it easy to sell UGA or any other $EC school. Mr. Ho not think Lincoln not enough pop. He might be good, but every go "Who"? And Dear Leader not like that. :
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 13, 2014 16:32:14 GMT -6
Lincoln Riley is the only one on that list I like. He is at a mid-major now and s spread guy. We could pay him $400,000 and he would make twice what he is making, plus young and hungry. These SEC guys will have a tough sell. They are used to the 5 star recruits and giving he real estat tour to recruit. Mr. Ho think same thing today - it easy to sell UGA or any other $EC school. Mr. Ho not think Lincoln not enough pop. He might be good, but every go "Who"? And Dear Leader not like that. : You think Troy really wants a hire that goes "pop" in the media?
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Post by scatman on Oct 13, 2014 17:21:05 GMT -6
I have faith that JH knows better than to go out and get a coach who would have a tough time coaching against 7A high schools. You get what you pay for. The only person on the list I'm not overly thrilled about is OC at ECU. But that's just me.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 13, 2014 17:51:57 GMT -6
I have faith that JH knows better than to go out and get a coach who would have a tough time coaching against 7A high schools. You get what you pay for. The only person on the list I'm not overly thrilled about is OC at ECU. But that's just me. I am getting a feeling it will be one of two scenarios 1) some former coach who was fired from the SEC 2) SEC coordinator that has never been a HC I would like us to take the route ULL and GA Southern did in getting a proven winning HC from the lower levels. Advantages to this include they know how to recruit to lesser facilities and find the players being over looked and you know they can win and manage a staff
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Post by scatman on Oct 13, 2014 18:02:10 GMT -6
I have faith that JH knows better than to go out and get a coach who would have a tough time coaching against 7A high schools. You get what you pay for. The only person on the list I'm not overly thrilled about is OC at ECU. But that's just me. I am getting a feeling it will be one of two scenarios 1) some former coach who was fired from the SEC 2) SEC coordinator that has never been a HC I would like us to take the route ULL and GA Southern did in getting a proven winning HC from the lower levels. Advantages to this include they know how to recruit to lesser facilities and find the players being over looked and you know they can win and manage a staff that's great for them, but coaches don't just come along like that. And imo I don't want to go the same route that schools I look down upon went. I have faith that in no time we won't be a "lesser facility" school searching for "lesser touted" recruits.
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Post by Redwaver on Oct 13, 2014 21:42:47 GMT -6
I am getting a feeling it will be one of two scenarios 1) some former coach who was fired from the SEC 2) SEC coordinator that has never been a HC I would like us to take the route ULL and GA Southern did in getting a proven winning HC from the lower levels. Advantages to this include they know how to recruit to lesser facilities and find the players being over looked and you know they can win and manage a staff that's great for them, but coaches don't just come along like that. And imo I don't want to go the same route that schools I look down upon went. I have faith that in no time we won't be a "lesser facility" school searching for "lesser touted" recruits. "....I don't want to go the same route hat schools Iooked down upon went". Really? Even if what they did worked?? Holy cow, I just don't hate any team bad enough to refuse to learn from them. ASU has kicked our butts lately doing it their way so I just ain't got me no problem thinking it's worth considerin'! JMHO!
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Post by scatman on Oct 13, 2014 23:03:59 GMT -6
that's great for them, but coaches don't just come along like that. And imo I don't want to go the same route that schools I look down upon went. I have faith that in no time we won't be a "lesser facility" school searching for "lesser touted" recruits. "....I don't want to go the same route hat schools Iooked down upon went". Really? Even if what they did worked?? Holy cow, I just don't hate any team bad enough to refuse to learn from them. ASU has kicked our butts lately doing it their way so I just ain't got me no problem thinking it's worth considerin'! JMHO! Knowing what I've heard from football members and cheerleaders, whether they win or not, it hasn't been in a very respectable manner. So if a coach doesn't have control over the actions of his team, I'm not very thrilled with him.
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Post by scatman on Oct 13, 2014 23:04:50 GMT -6
Speaking of ASU, of course.
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Post by Redwaver on Oct 14, 2014 7:23:17 GMT -6
"....I don't want to go the same route hat schools Iooked down upon went". Really? Even if what they did worked?? Holy cow, I just don't hate any team bad enough to refuse to learn from them. ASU has kicked our butts lately doing it their way so I just ain't got me no problem thinking it's worth considerin'! JMHO! Knowing what I've heard from football members and cheerleaders, whether they win or not, it hasn't been in a very respectable manner. So if a coach doesn't have control over the actions of his team, I'm not very thrilled with him. Oh, I agree with your thoughts on discipline. PERSONALL I think that is one of our biggest problems but that may or may not have anything to do with from where you hire your coaches. Just look at FSU, they hired Fisher the right way yet they are still mired in discipline issues. Even some of the 12 deciples misbehaved:-), the point is what does/did the coach do about it. In ASU's case, I think the biggest negative to what they have done is there is no consistancy in leadership therefore discipline issues crop up. Folks, discipline is a HUGE factor in success of any endeavor and it is not a simple issue to deal with. The more INDIVIDUALLITY you allow, the more difficult establishing a team with purpose and commitment becomes. It's a complicated but incredibately important factor. I just think we will have to do it that way because we will never find another LB and yes, I truly believe that John Hartwell is fully aware that this could establish his legacy at Troy do I'm sure he wants a quality hire. I just hope the Chancelor is on board with his check book!
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Post by scatman on Oct 14, 2014 20:37:56 GMT -6
Knowing what I've heard from football members and cheerleaders, whether they win or not, it hasn't been in a very respectable manner. So if a coach doesn't have control over the actions of his team, I'm not very thrilled with him. Oh, I agree with your thoughts on discipline. PERSONALL I think that is one of our biggest problems but that may or may not have anything to do with from where you hire your coaches. Just look at FSU, they hired Fisher the right way yet they are still mired in discipline issues. Even some of the 12 deciples misbehaved:-), the point is what does/did the coach do about it. In ASU's case, I think the biggest negative to what they have done is there is no consistancy in leadership therefore discipline issues crop up. Folks, discipline is a HUGE factor in success of any endeavor and it is not a simple issue to deal with. The more INDIVIDUALLITY you allow, the more difficult establishing a team with purpose and commitment becomes. It's a complicated but incredibately important factor. I just think we will have to do it that way because we will never find another LB and yes, I truly believe that John Hartwell is fully aware that this could establish his legacy at Troy do I'm sure he wants a quality hire. I just hope the Chancelor is on board with his check book! I feel like LB's niceness hurt discipline issues, but nothing to say against coach. Just how fast it spread from 2010. I'm confident dear leader sees how important football is to the university. All in all, excited to see who it will be that leads our Trojans back to prominence.
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Post by discophobia on Oct 15, 2014 7:46:29 GMT -6
Chizak was in TROY looking at houses this week with a Realtor.......could be part of the interview process. I am not a Chiznuts fan.
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 15, 2014 7:53:31 GMT -6
Chizak was in TROY looking at houses this week with a Realtor.......could be part of the interview process. I am not a Chiznuts fan. Looking at decent housing in Troy takes 5 minutes, 6 tops.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 15, 2014 7:54:02 GMT -6
I will support any coach we hire, except Chizik, He's a loser. Why do we want a coach who won one year and got fired two years later?
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 15, 2014 8:01:25 GMT -6
I will support any coach we hire, except Chizik, He's a loser. Why do we want a coach who won one year and got fired two years later? Chizik went 8-5 then a national championship then 8-5 then a losing season
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Post by Troystet on Oct 15, 2014 8:05:56 GMT -6
I will support any coach we hire, except Chizik, He's a loser. Why do we want a coach who won one year and got fired two years later? Chizik went 8-5 then a national championship then 8-5 then a losing season Had a losing record at Iowa State. Won with Malzahn and Cam. Loser again without them. Piss poor choice in a coach. Why do you think no one has hired him?
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Post by trojanbrutha on Oct 15, 2014 8:12:05 GMT -6
Chizik went 8-5 then a national championship then 8-5 then a losing season Had a losing record at Iowa State. Won with Malzahn and Cam. Loser again without them. Piss poor choice in a coach. Why do you think no one has hired him? Because he is drawing $200,000 a month from his previous employer and he hasn't been looking. I'm not for or against anyone, at this point, but I wouldn't let the aubs off the money hook either...
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Post by Hemi Man on Oct 15, 2014 8:14:46 GMT -6
Chizak was in TROY looking at houses this week with a Realtor.......could be part of the interview process. I am not a Chiznuts fan. Looking at decent housing in Troy takes 5 minutes, 6 tops. Interesting post from someone who claims to have his finger on the pulse of Troy.
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Post by Trojan Warrior on Oct 15, 2014 9:16:22 GMT -6
Had a losing record at Iowa State. Won with Malzahn and Cam. Loser again without them. Piss poor choice in a coach. Why do you think no one has hired him? Because he is drawing $200,000 a month from his previous employer and he hasn't been looking. I'm not for or against anyone, at this point, but I wouldn't let the aubs off the money hook either... $209,457.84 per month to be specific.
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