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Post by tums on Oct 8, 2014 12:24:51 GMT -6
Do you think someone like Steve (BIO Below) is someone with a Troy back ground and a proven winner that would be a good person to fill the shoes of the one of the Best coaches (LB) Troy has ever had? Steve would probably bring with him former ULL DC & his current DC Greg Stewart (Former Troy NG) that played at Troy when Campbell did. Just throwing this out there that Hot OC's are available like Campbell's former Delta State to tap like Joel Williams. In the end I will be interested to see who shakes out to be the best fit for our beloved Troy U.. Steve Campbell
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Post by Troystet on Oct 8, 2014 12:34:25 GMT -6
YES, YES, YES. He would make a excellent choice. He's a winner, both as a player and a coach. You get a proven winner, knows how to manage a staff, run a game etc. He's my first choice
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Post by Mr. Ho on Oct 8, 2014 16:52:05 GMT -6
Steve is Mr. Ho first choose, but buy out for remaining portion of his contract might be too much to chew on. Throw in LB buyout for remain year. You talk about at least $300,000 for people not actually working for TMTDM. IF not Turk, this man would be perfect:
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Post by saintflorian on Oct 8, 2014 17:48:35 GMT -6
Do you think someone like Steve (BIO Below) is someone with a Troy back ground and a proven winner that would be a good person to fill the shoes of the one of the Best coaches (LB) Troy has ever had? Steve would probably bring with him former ULL DC & his current DC Greg Stewart (Former Troy NG) that played at Troy when Campbell did. Just throwing this out there that Hot OC's are available like Campbell's former Delta State to tap like Joel Williams. In the end I will be interested to see who shakes out to be the best fit for our beloved Troy U.. Steve Campbell View Attachment Yes, again Steve would be a good choice.
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Post by jonesoxygen on Oct 9, 2014 8:26:04 GMT -6
I understand all the pub for Steve, but my question is. Can he win at a DI school where the education requirements are a LITTLE higher than his current job? Lets face it, DII schools and JUCO's make a living off the best athletes in the country who don't require much from an educational standpoint. Don't get me wrong, I would have been a JUCO guy had I stayed in school and I am not an athlete, I just could make the grades.
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Post by discophobia on Oct 9, 2014 10:27:16 GMT -6
Jones, I dont know about that. I played baseball at Juco in MS, before I came to TROY and had some of the finest professors in a tiny little Mississippi town. They were as good and in a couple of cases better than those that I had at TROY. Each case is different and I get your point.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 9, 2014 13:42:41 GMT -6
I understand all the pub for Steve, but my question is. Can he win at a DI school where the education requirements are a LITTLE higher than his current job? Lets face it, DII schools and JUCO's make a living off the best athletes in the country who don't require much from an educational standpoint. Don't get me wrong, I would have been a JUCO guy had I stayed in school and I am not an athlete, I just could make the grades. This....I think we should go after someone who will bring headlines to ESPN and give a boost in recruiting right away. Campbell isnt that guy.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 9, 2014 13:51:49 GMT -6
Do we want headlines but not sure if they can win. I'll take a no name that can win. Glad they didn't feel that way about Brian Kelly coming from Grand Valley State or (The HC we don’t speak of) Kelly from New Hamshire or Hudspeth from UNA or fritz from Sam Houston
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 9, 2014 13:55:49 GMT -6
Do we want headlines but not sure if they can win. I'll take a no name that can win. Glad they didn't feel that way about Brian Kelly coming from Grand Valley State or (The HC we don’t speak of) Kelly from New Hamshire or Hudspeth from UNA or fritz from Sam Houston How are you sure Campbell can win at the FBS level? WHOEVER we hire will be a risk.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 9, 2014 14:03:41 GMT -6
Campbell isnt even proven as a HC at the FCS level yet. hes currently 3-3 at UCA. in his first season ever in FCS as a HC.
I will be dissapointed if Troy hires him as a our HC
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Post by trojanbrutha on Oct 9, 2014 14:27:48 GMT -6
Campbell isnt even proven as a HC at the FCS level yet. hes currently 3-3 at UCA. in his first season ever in FCS as a HC.
I will be dissapointed if Troy hires him as a our HC Not everyone will be sold on the new HC...that's a given. The deciding factor should be reserved until after the 2015 season. I have no doubt that JH will handle this hire and it'll go off without a hitch.
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Post by jonesoxygen on Oct 9, 2014 14:29:17 GMT -6
Sorry, but no chance Campbell gets a look. If we do not hire someone who has recruited against DI coaches, we are taking 3 steps backwards. We have to get somebody who can go in a recruits home and tell them what they need to hear and denounce all the crap they are hearing about Troy from other coaches. We don't need a guy to come in and make is first recruiting trip vs other DI coaches, we can't be the guinea pig.
As for one of Mr. Ho's picks..... was Ogeron at Ole Miss with Hartwell?
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Post by Troystet on Oct 9, 2014 14:30:28 GMT -6
Do we want headlines but not sure if they can win. I'll take a no name that can win. Glad they didn't feel that way about Brian Kelly coming from Grand Valley State or (The HC we don’t speak of) Kelly from New Hamshire or Hudspeth from UNA or fritz from Sam Houston How are you sure Campbell can win at the FBS level? WHOEVER we hire will be a risk. Winners are winners.
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Post by Troystet on Oct 9, 2014 14:31:41 GMT -6
Sorry, but no chance Campbell gets a look. If we do not hire someone who has recruited against DI coaches, we are taking 3 steps backwards. We have to get somebody who can go in a recruits home and tell them what they need to hear and denounce all the crap they are hearing about Troy from other coaches. We don't need a guy to come in and make is first recruiting trip vs other DI coaches, we can't be the guinea pig. As for one of Mr. Ho's picks..... was Ogeron at Ole Miss with Hartwell? Ok, so how did Hudsbeth and Brian Kelly do it?
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Post by discophobia on Oct 9, 2014 14:37:44 GMT -6
Yes, Hartwell and Orgeron were at Ole Miss at the same time this could be good or it could be bad for those supporting Orgeron.
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Post by Hemi Man on Oct 9, 2014 14:40:01 GMT -6
So everyone that wad opposed to the good ole boy network with LB now wants the good ole boy network 2.1?
Got it.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 9, 2014 14:41:10 GMT -6
Sorry, but no chance Campbell gets a look. If we do not hire someone who has recruited against DI coaches, we are taking 3 steps backwards. We have to get somebody who can go in a recruits home and tell them what they need to hear and denounce all the crap they are hearing about Troy from other coaches. We don't need a guy to come in and make is first recruiting trip vs other DI coaches, we can't be the guinea pig. As for one of Mr. Ho's picks..... was Ogeron at Ole Miss with Hartwell? Hartwell was at Ole Miss from 2003-2012 Ed Orgeron was there from 2005-2007 So yes
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Post by Troystet on Oct 9, 2014 14:57:48 GMT -6
So everyone that wad opposed to the good ole boy network with LB now wants the good ole boy network 2.1? Got it. No good old boy network...just a quality coach. If we get a SEC coordinator that everybody wants you still are going to have questions. 1) how will he chose and manage a staff and players 2) can he win as a hc 3) how will he recruit Troy with no Taj Mahal cathedrals like the big boys. 4) will he coordinate himself..ie call his own plays etc. We know what kind of coordinator they are, the unknown is who they will hire?
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Post by jonesoxygen on Oct 9, 2014 15:03:26 GMT -6
Sorry, but no chance Campbell gets a look. If we do not hire someone who has recruited against DI coaches, we are taking 3 steps backwards. We have to get somebody who can go in a recruits home and tell them what they need to hear and denounce all the crap they are hearing about Troy from other coaches. We don't need a guy to come in and make is first recruiting trip vs other DI coaches, we can't be the guinea pig. As for one of Mr. Ho's picks..... was Ogeron at Ole Miss with Hartwell? Ok, so how did Hudsbeth and Brian Kelly do it? Hud was at Miss. State after he left UNA. Kelly went from a smaller school to Central Michigan so he could compare to Campbell. I just don't want to be the guinea pig
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Post by trojanbrutha on Oct 9, 2014 15:10:29 GMT -6
Ok, so how did Hudsbeth and Brian Kelly do it? Hud was at Miss. State after he left UNA. Kelly went from a smaller school to Central Michigan so he could compare to Campbell. I just don't want to be the guinea pig Agreed...leaning more towards NB. He did a very good job recruiting to the offense while he was here. He's a no-nonsense kind of guy and I believe the team needs that right now.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Oct 9, 2014 16:01:26 GMT -6
Hud was at Miss. State after he left UNA. Kelly went from a smaller school to Central Michigan so he could compare to Campbell. I just don't want to be the guinea pig Agreed...leaning more towards NB. He did a very good job recruiting to the offense while he was here. He's a no-nonsense kind of guy and I believe the team needs that right now. I don't want Neal brown... He brings back memories of that LSU game in 2008.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Oct 9, 2014 16:13:21 GMT -6
Agreed...leaning more towards NB. He did a very good job recruiting to the offense while he was here. He's a no-nonsense kind of guy and I believe the team needs that right now. I don't want Neal brown... He brings back memories of that LSU game in 2008. Like I said, we're not all going to agree.
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Post by discophobia on Oct 9, 2014 18:37:13 GMT -6
Put me down in the NO column for Neal Brown!
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Post by doc71 on Oct 10, 2014 18:05:12 GMT -6
Steve would be a great get! Very smart, innovative, hard working ... A winner!
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