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Post by tutrojan on Sept 29, 2014 15:53:53 GMT -6
2011 20 2012 19 2013 15 2014 14(5 games)
I didn't even want to compare yards per rush.
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Post by preacher on Sept 29, 2014 15:55:39 GMT -6
Wow
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Post by preacher on Sept 29, 2014 15:58:15 GMT -6
That may be as much on not having a RS Senior at QB as anything though.
Yards per rush would tell more of a story on the OL since we have the same RBs.
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Sept 29, 2014 16:05:56 GMT -6
Silvers does seem to hold the ball longer than he should at times. Over time, C-Rob developed the internal clock to throw the ball away. Silvers has yet to get that locked down. It will come with time, but it will take some time.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 29, 2014 16:32:27 GMT -6
Silvers does seem to hold the ball longer than he should at times. Over time, C-Rob developed the internal clock to throw the ball away. Silvers has yet to get that locked down. It will come with time, but it will take some time. Wonder if D-Pru has a better clock than B-Siv or D-Tid for that matter.
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Post by tutrojan on Sept 29, 2014 16:37:27 GMT -6
Silvers does seem to hold the ball longer than he should at times. Over time, C-Rob developed the internal clock to throw the ball away. Silvers has yet to get that locked down. It will come with time, but it will take some time. Maybe when he also figures out not to go airborne from five yards out...
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Post by trojanbrutha on Sept 29, 2014 17:01:07 GMT -6
Silvers does seem to hold the ball longer than he should at times. Over time, C-Rob developed the internal clock to throw the ball away. Silvers has yet to get that locked down. It will come with time, but it will take some time. Maybe when he also figures out not to go airborne from five yards out... I cringe every time he does that.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 29, 2014 17:02:46 GMT -6
Silvers does seem to hold the ball longer than he should at times. Over time, C-Rob developed the internal clock to throw the ball away. Silvers has yet to get that locked down. It will come with time, but it will take some time. Maybe when he also figures out not to go airborne from five yards out... Maybe when he also figures out not to go airborne from five yards out... I cringe every time he does that. Nah, Superman wears Brandon Silvers pajamas.
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Post by Redwaver on Sept 29, 2014 17:06:22 GMT -6
2011 20 2012 19 2013 15 2014 14(5 games) I didn't even want to compare yards per rush. If you watch the first quarter of Satuedays game, watch the interior line blocking and you can immediately see why we have sacks! Sad!
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 29, 2014 17:10:08 GMT -6
2011 20 2012 19 2013 15 2014 14(5 games) I didn't even want to compare yards per rush. If you watch the first quarter of Satuedays game, watch the interior line blocking and you can immediately see why we have sacks! Sad! Redwaver, in your estimation is it technique, assignments, gap integrity, scheme, adjustments, stunts, what ? Thoughts ?
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Post by trojanbrutha on Sept 29, 2014 17:13:05 GMT -6
Maybe when he also figures out not to go airborne from five yards out... I cringe every time he does that. Nah, Superman wears Brandon Silvers pajamas. He'd better not wear his helmet...supe could get a concussion...
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Post by Redwaver on Sept 29, 2014 18:55:38 GMT -6
If you watch the first quarter of Satuedays game, watch the interior line blocking and you can immediately see why we have sacks! Sad! Redwaver, in your estimation is it technique, assignments, gap integrity, scheme, adjustments, stunts, what ? Thoughts ? The one issue I saw over and over again was on passing plays, linemen made initial contact nicely standing up the rushing defensive lineman or LB but when that lineman or LB continued pursuit often he was let go, continued agressive blocking stopped and sometimes they just followed the rusher to the QB. This is simply a technique lapse. If the scheme calls for another blocker to pick them up it failed to happen over and over again. It did improve after the first quarter. I assumed it got addressed. Silvers didn't have a chance in the first quarter though no matter how long he held it. I've not coached the spread so I don't understand the pass blocking technique where you step back and allow the persuers to advance freely for a short distance but maybe that is the new style. I have NEVER understood why on defense we don't penetrate at the end position to force the runners to commit quickly without letting them outside before thay ever see a red jersey. We play "soft ends" and if you don't have comparable or exceptional speed you will lose that battle. I heard an announcer of one of our games say the very same thing a few weeks ago. He wondered why we kept allowing runners to get "outside" without being challenged. Just my thoughts.
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Post by Troystet on Sept 30, 2014 6:02:12 GMT -6
Redwaver, in your estimation is it technique, assignments, gap integrity, scheme, adjustments, stunts, what ? Thoughts ? The one issue I saw over and over again was on passing plays, linemen made initial contact nicely standing up the rushing defensive lineman or LB but when that lineman or LB continued pursuit often he was let go, continued agressive blocking stopped and sometimes they just followed the rusher to the QB. This is simply a technique lapse. If the scheme calls for another blocker to pick them up it failed to happen over and over again. It did improve after the first quarter. I assumed it got addressed. Silvers didn't have a chance in the first quarter though no matter how long he held it. I've not coached the spread so I don't understand the pass blocking technique where you step back and allow the persuers to advance freely for a short distance but maybe that is the new style. I have NEVER understood why on defense we don't penetrate at the end position to force the runners to commit quickly without letting them outside before thay ever see a red jersey. We play "soft ends" and if you don't have comparable or exceptional speed you will lose that battle. I heard an announcer of one of our games say the very same thing a few weeks ago. He wondered why we kept allowing runners to get "outside" without being challenged. Just my thoughts. This is a coaching issue, plain and simple. We have talent here that isn't getting coached right. OL more than any other position is technique. Great OL coaches are teachers of technique. Your stance, first step, positioning for the block, technique. After you teach these things then you teach aggressiveness and finishing the block. We were dealt a huge blow losing Schlarman and not getting Yessner but DYe point blank was the wrong guy for the job....period.
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Post by troyalumni2003 on Sept 30, 2014 7:41:34 GMT -6
Besides being 0-5 this has been one of the most disappointing things to watch this year. So much preseason hype about depth on the OL and in several positions. Majority of sacks are because of the issues with OL. I do think #12 holds onto the ball to long at times, but for most part no matter who would be under center (oh wait we cannot ever do that), in the QB role would be sacked a lot. He has to learn to throw it away, he depends on his running ability to much I am afraid and any decent team is going to shut that down if it happens many times. Throwing it away helps because we do not lose yardage then, however I think LB has talked about no interceptions so much this year, probably scared to throw it in a heated situation and disrupt the only decent stat they can talk about. In the end stats are stats, the only one that matters is the W or the L.
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Post by tutrojan on Sept 30, 2014 8:01:09 GMT -6
I probably would have I out a few sacks on our QBs, but from what I have seen, I would say the OL unit has under-performed the most and is the biggest reason for our decline this season.
Also note that our yards per rush has fallen from 4.7 in 2012 to 3.9 last year and 2.9 so far this year.
Defensively, we are still near the bottom. We have shown some ability to prevent the deep play a little better, but we are still allowing teams to pass at over 66% completion rate against us, move the ball, and score. Ball awareness among DBs continues to be largely non-existent outside of one player for one quarter against ACU.
One bright spot is that our penalties are down 20% compared to last year's rate...
Going back to our OL, our historical play from this unit during the spread era really helped close the gap against a lot of competition and allowed us to shred some big name teams... This is our biggest loss. Unfortunately, I think Blakeney went back to too many names from the 80's when rebuilding this staff.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Sept 30, 2014 8:21:22 GMT -6
I think there are more roll out passes in the package that DP runs...they could roll out Silvers more for a dual threat element to challenge the edges. He doesn't need to be taking the shots he has.
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Post by Troystet on Sept 30, 2014 9:34:31 GMT -6
Still a coaching issue. We are not putting our best 5 on the field and they are not being coached up
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 30, 2014 9:48:31 GMT -6
Still a coaching issue. We are not putting our best 5 on the field and they are not being coached up So who would you say are the best five? Who's left out?
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Post by cardinalblacktrojan on Sept 30, 2014 10:31:34 GMT -6
Still a coaching issue. We are not putting our best 5 on the field and they are not being coached up Why is this offensive line so bad? What happened to all of the hype about how good they were supposed to be? Some people were throwing around "Best O-Line in the Sun Belt" and "one of the deepest O-Lines in the nation." This offensive line is one of the worst that I've seen in nearly 10 years. #70 seems to struggle a lot.
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Post by Troystet on Sept 30, 2014 11:00:56 GMT -6
Still a coaching issue. We are not putting our best 5 on the field and they are not being coached up So who would you say are the best five? Who's left out? Heard from a coach that if Dalton could play center, he would be all conference. I think Luke Lawrence getting hurt changed that set up, but I have heard over and over that Dalton needs to center. Also Jonathon Boring was All State center in HS but keeps getting moved around and big #77 they say is our best run blocker. I just think there needs to be some shuffling of positions and some other guys need a look because it isn't working status quo...jmo
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Post by TheAmericanDream on Sept 30, 2014 11:24:00 GMT -6
We lost arguably the best O-line coach in the country, and replaced him with perhaps the worst.
That is what is wrong with the big fellas. Clear and simple.
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