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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Aug 30, 2014 15:37:26 GMT -6
It is very apparent. Silvers couldn't have even been Corey's personal water boy today. Play the juco and let the RSF learn. Eddenfield couldn't have coordinated a peewee game today.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 15:50:51 GMT -6
It is very apparent. Silvers couldn't have even been Corey's personal water boy today. Play the juco and let the RSF learn. Eddenfield couldn't have coordinated a peewee game today. I wouldn't blame #12 for the loss, the play calling was absolutely horrendous today (the worst I've ever seen). We could have had a Heisman Trophy winning QB on the field today and we still would have failed miserably . I do agree that #1 seems to have more ability to make quick decisions than #12 and would be a better starter next week. Surf Report: Small scale (ankle to knee high) surf. Clean in the morning with NNW winds less than 5mph. Semi glassy/semi bumpy conditions for the afternoon with the winds shifting to the S. The high will be 87 degrees and the low will be 80 degrees. Chance of rain 60%.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Aug 31, 2014 22:19:52 GMT -6
The play calling was laughable which is par for the course for suckenfield but the bottom line is Pruitt > Silvers.
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Post by Troystet on Sept 1, 2014 8:00:22 GMT -6
Silvers had no turnovers, what did he do to make it seem Pruitt would have been better?
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Post by trojanbrutha on Sept 1, 2014 9:08:19 GMT -6
Silvers had no turnovers, what did he do to make it seem Pruitt would have been better? Not enough time for progressions (O line), indecisive, took too many sacks...
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Post by Troystet on Sept 1, 2014 9:29:53 GMT -6
Do you think we will see Pruett more Sat. If we can do more things offensively with Pruett then play him. We have to score more than 40 to win this year I am afraid.
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Post by Redwaver on Sept 1, 2014 12:05:30 GMT -6
Do you think we will see Pruett more Sat. If we can do more things offensively with Pruett then play him. We have to score more than 40 to win this year I am afraid. They had receivers open at times but was too busy to find them!
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Post by trojanbrutha on Sept 1, 2014 12:09:05 GMT -6
They both ran well, when needed, but DP looked more comfortable at times...not all that impressed with the O line Sat.
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Post by Redwaver on Sept 1, 2014 12:13:56 GMT -6
Silvers had no turnovers, what did he do to make it seem Pruitt would have been better? Not enough time for progressions (O line), indecisive, took too many sacks... One mans opinion!!! I think he has the skills to be a good QB! He looked green (which he is) and needs time. Time is one thing Troy fans, me included, have little patience for right now. Silvers just seemed to miss open routes when going through progressions. I think he became too aware of his surroundings. The other guy can run but got very few reps last week. I just think many fans want to see if he can move the team. We had some awful penalties that stopped our drives when he was moving them no fault of his. Silvers is the future but he will require battle experience and this week is a tough time to be learning. Maybe after Duke.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Sept 1, 2014 14:01:33 GMT -6
Kelvin Simms couldn't move this team down field with revolving doors for offensive linemen. Thanks Coach Dye
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 1, 2014 14:41:04 GMT -6
Before the wheels fall let's step back and look. Pruitt did seem more comfortable at times than Silvers. People that were expecting Silvers to pickup where Corey left off aren't being realistic. Look at the receivers Corey had his RS freshman year. Jernigan. Gill, Bruce, Reeves, Silvoy, E Thomas, Jamel Johnson, Chandler, and not to mention Shawn Southward and Dujuan Harris.
We are much younger and inexperienced that people realize.
I think I'll have a beer.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 1, 2014 18:03:16 GMT -6
Wait how could all those talented players be at Troy without primo facilities ?
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 1, 2014 19:39:32 GMT -6
Wait how could all those talented players be at Troy without primo facilities ? Hey take a look when those guys were recruited. Back when Troy was on top of the conference on the field and near the top of facilities. I really appreciate you proving my point. I think I'll have a beer.
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Post by trojanbrutha on Sept 2, 2014 17:39:50 GMT -6
These are my thoughts on why DP should be the starter, as of now. 1) He won a natty last season. 2) He knows what it feels like to win after HS. 3) Not one QB has been on a winning TROY team. I think because of #3, getting a fresh set of eyes and attitude would bare fruit for the offense. That's not to say there aren't defensive issues, but we could atleast count on the offense for a good shoot-out...Time to take some chances and shake this O up some! #ChannelYourInnerFranklinstein
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Post by Mr. Ho on Sept 2, 2014 18:12:16 GMT -6
Our offense not look this inept since Carl Meadows era. At least our defense was good back then.
Our very first IA game (Brock Nutter QB), TMTDM lost to Big Red 42-21. The team TMTDM field Saturday would have lost to that team 42-21.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Sept 3, 2014 7:09:29 GMT -6
These are my thoughts on why DP should be the starter, as of now. 1) He won a natty last season. 2) He knows what it feels like to win after HS. 3) Not one QB has been on a winning TROY team. I think because of #3, getting a fresh set of eyes and attitude would bare fruit for the offense. That's not to say there aren't defensive issues, but we could atleast count on the offense for a good shoot-out...Time to take some chances and shake this O up some! #ChannelYourInnerFranklinstein Sir some people like you get it and some just do not. I'll add #4.) While in the game he played better, made better reads, threw arrows, threw 0 wounded ducks, and is change from the old Corey days. #ChannelYourInnerFranklinstein Problem is Eddenfield is not Franklin. I dont care if Franklin never went under center as Hemi pointed out. At least he mixed it up and was not terrified of the turnover and it was not boring to watch even when losing. Saturday was atrocious. You almost wanted for the D to be on the field by the 4th. #WorstPlayCallingEver
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Sept 3, 2014 7:12:07 GMT -6
Our offense not look this inept since Carl Meadows era. At least our defense was good back then. Our very first IA game (Brock Nutter QB), TMTDM lost to Big Red 42-21. The team TMTDM field Saturday would have lost to that team 42-21. DT84's ole lady was watching the game with him and in the 3rd DT84 turned to her and said "There were these guys named Carl Meadows, Joel Winkter, and some shotty OC. We have not been this boring, lackadaisical, and just plain AA high school looking on offense and play calling since those guys were around, and that was in freaking 2005."
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 3, 2014 8:13:33 GMT -6
Certain people complained about the play calling for several years. I wish you knew just how vanilla really is. However, everyone's focus was on firings Rowell and how that would fix everything. Now some of you have come to the realization that we have problems all over. Maybe our talent on offense in the past made KE look better than he is? Maybe the talent that Bolt had the first time around made him look better than he is? All questions that are sure to be asked, but can anyone really answer them at this point? Maybe if everything is the coaches' fault, maybe we just out talented everyone back then? Maybe when other schools stepped up their recruiting, coaches, and facilities, we were left behind?
The fact of the matter is that some on here are trying to make a depth chart based on Pruitt's 10 plays and Tidwell's handful of plays in his career.
I think I'll have a beer.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Sept 3, 2014 8:30:44 GMT -6
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Pruitt looked good and we want more.....Some people say cucumbers taste better pickled.
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 3, 2014 8:43:42 GMT -6
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Pruitt looked good and we want more.....Some people say cucumbers taste better pickled. Well as long as your wants are met everything will be fine? I think I'll have a beer.
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Sept 3, 2014 8:50:04 GMT -6
Doubt it but this thread is not about DT84. 90% chimed in with the same thoughts. We want change. Though its likely that change might be an Obama style bust we still want change. Look man I love you. Youre a funny @ss fella. But you see the big picture too much. Most football fans dont do that and that is ok. DT84 refuses to because as far as TU football goes its depressing. People are venting and not always trying to push personal beliefs. 10-48 vs. UAB will do that. Like I told you Saturday. The beer will still be cold. sFun_DeadHorse with all this logic and reasoning. Its no fun.
Also, people just want to see more Pruitt. Its not a fix all but its fun.
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Post by troyalumni2003 on Sept 3, 2014 9:20:50 GMT -6
Certain people complained about the play calling for several years. I wish you knew just how vanilla really is. However, everyone's focus was on firings Rowell and how that would fix everything. Now some of you have come to the realization that we have problems all over. Maybe our talent on offense in the past made KE look better than he is? Maybe the talent that Bolt had the first time around made him look better than he is? All questions that are sure to be asked, but can anyone really answer them at this point? Maybe if everything is the coaches' fault, maybe we just out talented everyone back then? Maybe when other schools stepped up their recruiting, coaches, and facilities, we were left behind? The fact of the matter is that some on here are trying to make a depth chart based on Pruitt's 10 plays and Tidwell's handful of plays in his career. I think I'll have a beer. Hemi, I understand your point and agree that lots was blamed on Rowell , and you were at his defense as you are the school and coaches majority of the time. Besides the field house upgrades though, which I do agree need improvement, you appear to just go along with whatever as if the coaches have made the right decisions most of times. This forum is for a open discussion and you cannot honestly think or agree with it all. SO don't come out as a puppet for the university. No one is creating a depth chart. In fact most of us don't really know what should happen. We do know something is not right and change and not just financial change needs to happen and Saturday was embarrassing. For not just players, coaches, but us alumni as well. Also, why are you so against Pruitt , Tidwell or Brevard. You play your hand with that statement, considering Silvers had ZERO College plays before Saturday and now appear to be painting a picture of success. So please think for yourself unless you really think Saturday was that good.
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Post by Troystet on Sept 3, 2014 9:31:10 GMT -6
Certain people complained about the play calling for several years. I wish you knew just how vanilla really is. However, everyone's focus was on firings Rowell and how that would fix everything. Now some of you have come to the realization that we have problems all over. Maybe our talent on offense in the past made KE look better than he is? Maybe the talent that Bolt had the first time around made him look better than he is? All questions that are sure to be asked, but can anyone really answer them at this point? Maybe if everything is the coaches' fault, maybe we just out talented everyone back then? Maybe when other schools stepped up their recruiting, coaches, and facilities, we were left behind? The fact of the matter is that some on here are trying to make a depth chart based on Pruitt's 10 plays and Tidwell's handful of plays in his career. I think I'll have a beer. Keep hearing we don't have the talent which means we haven't recruited well. If we don't have the talent then who is to blame? We dont have the talent and we continue to use the same recruiting formula. 1) come to our camp 2) live within 3 hours. 3) go to miss and Kansas juco's and hope players are left over. We refuse to recruit Texas, the hotbeds in Georgia and the Orlando-Tampa south market. If we are indeed that behind talent wise then why are we doing the same recruiting year after year? Do you think maybe we need to evaluate this? ?
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Post by dedicatedtrojan84 on Sept 3, 2014 9:47:25 GMT -6
Keep hearing we don't have the talent which means we haven't recruited well. If we don't have the talent then who is to blame? We dont have the talent and we continue to use the same recruiting formula. 1) come to our camp 2) live within 3 hours. 3) go to miss and Kansas juco's and hope players are left over. We refuse to recruit Texas, the hotbeds in Georgia and the Orlando-Tampa south market. If we are indeed that behind talent wise then why are we doing the same recruiting year after year? Do you think maybe we need to evaluate this? ?
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Post by Hemi Man on Sept 3, 2014 10:30:31 GMT -6
Doubt it but this thread is not about DT84. 90% chimed in with the same thoughts. We want change. Though its likely that change might be an Obama style bust we still want change. Look man I love you. Youre a funny @ss fella. But you see the big picture too much. Most football fans dont do that and that is ok. DT84 refuses to because as far as TU football goes its depressing. People are venting and not always trying to push personal beliefs. 10-48 vs. UAB will do that. Like I told you Saturday. The beer will still be cold. sFun_DeadHorse with all this logic and reasoning. Its no fun. Also, people just want to see more Pruitt. Its not a fix all but its fun. Certain people complained about the play calling for several years. I wish you knew just how vanilla really is. However, everyone's focus was on firings Rowell and how that would fix everything. Now some of you have come to the realization that we have problems all over. Maybe our talent on offense in the past made KE look better than he is? Maybe the talent that Bolt had the first time around made him look better than he is? All questions that are sure to be asked, but can anyone really answer them at this point? Maybe if everything is the coaches' fault, maybe we just out talented everyone back then? Maybe when other schools stepped up their recruiting, coaches, and facilities, we were left behind? The fact of the matter is that some on here are trying to make a depth chart based on Pruitt's 10 plays and Tidwell's handful of plays in his career. I think I'll have a beer. Hemi, I understand your point and agree that lots was blamed on Rowell , and you were at his defense as you are the school and coaches majority of the time. Besides the field house upgrades though, which I do agree need improvement, you appear to just go along with whatever as if the coaches have made the right decisions most of times. This forum is for a open discussion and you cannot honestly think or agree with it all. SO don't come out as a puppet for the university. No one is creating a depth chart. In fact most of us don't really know what should happen. We do know something is not right and change and not just financial change needs to happen and Saturday was embarrassing. For not just players, coaches, but us alumni as well. Also, why are you so against Pruitt , Tidwell or Brevard. You play your hand with that statement, considering Silvers had ZERO College plays before Saturday and now appear to be painting a picture of success. So please think for yourself unless you really think Saturday was that good. If you will review the threads from before the season my choice was Pruitt. However, it showed he wasn't fully comfortable in the offense in he second scrimmage. When it comes to thinking for myself I have no problems. It seems those that screamed for Rowell's firing and the deadbolt defense was back would have learned that it isn't as cut and dry as they once thought. Change may be exactly what we need or it may be the same ship with a new captain. I think I'll have a beer.
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