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Post by cornhole on Jun 15, 2024 0:01:25 GMT -6
A wee late getting in here, but..,
"stupid is, as stupid does." jeez
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Post by Hemi Man on Jun 15, 2024 16:33:59 GMT -6
I hate to say this but I think it is going to be a down year. I talked to some players and they all said the same thing, “Coach is a nice guy.” I think he is more of a buddy like the coach we don’t speak of. I hope I am wrong. A coach that is highly likable who is respected as well could exist. Let’s just hope that is the case instead of any similarity to the “one so banished his name is forbidden from utterance” Probably so. Only 9 wins this year
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Post by troy79 on Jun 18, 2024 12:45:59 GMT -6
Guys, I have had the pleasure of getting to know Coach and his family. We are blessed to have them at Troy and we will see some great football this Fall and in the foreseeable future. HCJS knew this would be a rebuilding-type year, but we have the right head coach and staff to make the transition successful. We don't have a sixth-year senior leading the way, so we need to be a bit patient as everyone figures out their respective role. Looking forward to a fun-filled football season.
Go TROY!
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jun 18, 2024 17:31:06 GMT -6
Remembering that NB went 4-8 in his first year and then succeeded. Now I really believe we will be better than that. I could look back but I think it was Hemi saying 9 wins. If HCGP does that then dang right he has pulled off one H E double toothpick of a year.
We were all so stoaked after he never to be mentioned was cast out. Then HCJS came along and had a fantastic first year and a great second year diminished only by the let down at the end of the year. I really do hope for some O-line and DB Magic out of some of these guys. If that happens perhaps 9-3 is not out of the question but I will stick with my percentages I started this thread with at the beginning.
I like Hemi’s prediction although just maybe a bit tongue in cheek but after all the tightness of his loin cloth may in fact be choking off some blood flow. However, I still like the boldness!
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jun 18, 2024 17:45:19 GMT -6
Remembering that NB went 4-8 in his first year and then succeeded. Now I really believe we will be better than that. I could look back but I think it was Hemi saying 9 wins. If HCGP does that then dang right he has pulled off one H E double toothpick of a year. We were all so stoaked after he never to be mentioned was cast out. Then HCJS came along and had a fantastic first year and a great second year diminished only by the let down at the end of the year. I really do hope for some O-line and DB Magic out of some of these guys. If that happens perhaps 9-3 is not out of the question but I will stick with my percentages I started this thread with at the beginning. I like Hemi’s prediction although just maybe a bit tongue in cheek but after all the tightness of his loin cloth may in fact be choking off some blood flow. However, I still like the boldness! I think 4-8 is possible with this schedule. I wouldn't be upset if we see the right things. During XHCNB's 4-8 season, we saw improvement every game and then when we dominated NMST in 2015 52-7, I knew we had something special. If coach Parker demonstrates that he is living by our core values, then everything will be alright. What are our core values? In random order: 1. We will play anyone anywhere anytime. 2. We expect to win no matter the opponent. 3. It is never ok to lose. 4. A ranking is an opportunity, not the finish line. 5. The Trojan Warrior Spirit is simply the will to work harder than everyone else.
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Post by saintflorian on Jun 19, 2024 6:38:32 GMT -6
Damn. Fanbase sure has fallen. Ok with 4 wins. Ugh. “It’s never ok to lose”
Comparing what CNB inherited to CGP inherited is laughable.
Keep hearing it was a rebuilding year. Disagree. Likely If Sumrall stayed, kept all or most of the defensive guys that portaled (which was likely), you have a gelling OL, yes Vidal was a stud but Very capable backups ready to shine, good WR, a very talented QB that matured well as a backup last year, and he would have brought in several key Portal additions. Good coaching staff. A run at SB championship and dare I say the playoff. “It’s never ok to lose”
Y’all trying to make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. You strap on that helmet to win every single game. Never expect or accept mediocrity. The great coaches never do, nor should the team’s supporters.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jun 19, 2024 6:56:17 GMT -6
Damn. Fanbase sure has fallen. Ok with 4 wins. Ugh. “It’s never ok to lose” Comparing what CNB inherited to CGP inherited is laughable. Keep hearing it was a rebuilding year. Disagree. Likely If Sumrall stayed, kept all or most of the defensive guys that portaled (which was likely), you have a gelling OL, yes Vidal was a stud but Very capable backups ready to shine, good WR, a very talented QB that matured well as a backup last year, and he would have brought in several key Portal additions. Good coaching staff. A run at SB championship and dare I say the playoff. “It’s never ok to lose” Y’all trying to make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. You strap on that helmet to win every single game. Never expect or accept mediocrity. The great coaches never do, nor should the team’s supporters. I don't believe that we will go 4-8 but over all a tad bit surprised or pleased than so sorely disappointed by our record. HCJS knew he was not going to be as loaded and with NIL we were going to lose some in the portal. Then there was the money. All in all, I think all of us expect a NON losing year and would love to see progress. The truth is making it to a bowl and a 7-5 record or better (but not by much) is the type of goal that is realistic. No, it's never ok to lose but NEARLY every game of football, basketball, cards, horseshoes or baseball for that matter has a winner and a loser. HCNB that first year got the guys believing in a better time ahead. That last game at Louisianna (during Neal's first year) was a great example of a pretty decent football team despite the 4-8 record. Every coach and every fan and every player should expect the best and that is all we can do. So, here is to Troy playing Georgia in the National Championship game but if I put 1000 dollars on that at the beginning of the season, I could fly private and vacation the rest of my life without worry of money. It just that it is not quite likely that this would happen. I would most likely be out a thousand dollars. So, unlike the "Dumb and Dumber" statement: "So, what you're saying is there is a chance." Nope.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jun 19, 2024 19:17:34 GMT -6
I’m just being real. Unless you give Jonesy a million or more, you must accept we are amateurs playing with pros. College football is gone. This semi pro league is going to be tough. 4-8 may be the truth until pay for play is worked out with player contracts and non competes.
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Post by cornhole on Jun 19, 2024 19:31:14 GMT -6
I’m just being real. Unless you give Jonesy a million or more, you must accept we are amateurs playing with pros. College football is gone. This semi pro league is going to be tough. 4-8 may be the truth until pay for play is worked out with player contracts and non competes. agree. the game has changed. we will be very challenged to keep up. pre dictions are just a "dust in the wind".
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Post by saintflorian on Jun 20, 2024 6:47:08 GMT -6
I’m just being real. Unless you give Jonesy a million or more, you must accept we are amateurs playing with pros. College football is gone. This semi pro league is going to be tough. 4-8 may be the truth until pay for play is worked out with player contracts and non competes. Troy is not in the pro league. It’s in the semi pro league with other semi pro teams, playing these other semi pro teams. Georgia Southern doesn’t have a war chest over there buying up DI talent to play in Statesboro. If 4-8 is the new reality guess there is no reason to invest further into the program huh ? If HCGP goes 4-8 against this schedule with the current talent, he just truly sucks, would need to go on down and take over at Zions Chapel and coach that team. Relooked at the 2024 schedule for the 100th time, where are your eight losses ? Predicting 4-8 for 2024 Troy is just a inaccurate view on the current state of the program and the football world it is living in
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Post by trojanfan1988 on Jun 20, 2024 17:03:53 GMT -6
Hey guys, have yall studied our roster with the players we brought in. Look/google our 2 Depth Chart roster. Yes we lost some talent, but we gain some talent. Our offensive line average over 300 lbs and the Defensive line almost the same. We bring back a strong core of Linebackers and some talent on the back end
Some of the guys we lost are not even on their new team Depth Chart Roster.
If Chris Lewis make it back, we good. This staff have something to prove, let's watch them work. We are Troy.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jun 20, 2024 18:13:57 GMT -6
I’m just being real. Unless you give Jonesy a million or more, you must accept we are amateurs playing with pros. College football is gone. This semi pro league is going to be tough. 4-8 may be the truth until pay for play is worked out with player contracts and non competes. Troy is not in the pro league. It’s in the semi pro league with other semi pro teams, playing these other semi pro teams. Georgia Southern doesn’t have a war chest over there buying up DI talent to play in Statesboro. If 4-8 is the new reality guess there is no reason to invest further into the program huh ? If HCGP goes 4-8 against this schedule with the current talent, he just truly sucks, would need to go on down and take over at Zions Chapel and coach that team. Relooked at the 2024 schedule for the 100th time, where are your eight losses ? Predicting 4-8 for 2024 Troy is just a inaccurate view on the current state of the program and the football world it is living in I think we could lose to everyone except A&M and UWF. I'm especially worried about Texas State who has a war chest as big as the other Texas schools.
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Post by Hemi Man on Jun 20, 2024 18:30:04 GMT -6
Troy is not in the pro league. It’s in the semi pro league with other semi pro teams, playing these other semi pro teams. Georgia Southern doesn’t have a war chest over there buying up DI talent to play in Statesboro. If 4-8 is the new reality guess there is no reason to invest further into the program huh ? If HCGP goes 4-8 against this schedule with the current talent, he just truly sucks, would need to go on down and take over at Zions Chapel and coach that team. Relooked at the 2024 schedule for the 100th time, where are your eight losses ? Predicting 4-8 for 2024 Troy is just a inaccurate view on the current state of the program and the football world it is living in I think we could lose to everyone except A&M and UWF. I'm especially worried about Texas State who has a war chest as big as the other Texas schools. Nah. You worry too much. We will be alright alright alright
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Post by trojanfan251 on Jun 21, 2024 6:59:33 GMT -6
Sitting here sipping coffee on this fine Friday morning reading this board and some of y’all should be ashamed to call your self Troy fans. Currently watching highlights of Nevada and on the first play Idaho throws a 75 yd TD. Nevada has an athletic QB and explosive RB. Idaho won 33-6. Goose will be putting up hiesman numbers. Damian Taylor might touch the 200 yard mark. We’re going to be undefeated going into a hostile Memphis environment. I’ll get back to y’all on that game prediction after I watch some of their game films.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jun 21, 2024 7:15:08 GMT -6
Sitting here sipping coffee on this fine Friday morning reading this board and some of y’all should be ashamed to call your self Troy fans. Currently watching highlights of Nevada and on the first play Idaho throws a 75 yd TD. Nevada has an athletic QB and explosive RB. Idaho won 33-6. Goose will be putting up hiesman numbers. Damian Taylor might touch the 200 yard mark. We’re going to be undefeated going into a hostile Memphis environment. I’ll get back to y’all on that game prediction after I watch some of their game films. Agree we beat Silver State.
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Post by saintflorian on Jun 21, 2024 9:06:54 GMT -6
Hey guys, have yall studied our roster with the players we brought in. Look/google our 2 Depth Chart roster. Yes we lost some talent, but we gain some talent. Our offensive line average over 300 lbs and the Defensive line almost the same. We bring back a strong core of Linebackers and some talent on the back end Some of the guys we lost are not even on their new team Depth Chart Roster. If Chris Lewis make it back, we good. This staff have something to prove, let's watch them work. We are Troy. This guy gets it. It’s not a rebuilding year. People saying that are truly uninformed or are trying to build cover for if HCGP fails. Sumrall knew he had a good team with potential post season opportunities. Why the decision was tough. But his personal opportunity was too good to pass up.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jun 21, 2024 9:55:32 GMT -6
Sitting here sipping coffee on this fine Friday morning reading this board and some of y’all should be ashamed to call your self Troy fans. This statement and the 10s of dollars you donate really make me ashamed.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jun 21, 2024 10:07:36 GMT -6
Hey guys, have yall studied our roster with the players we brought in. Look/google our 2 Depth Chart roster. Yes we lost some talent, but we gain some talent. Our offensive line average over 300 lbs and the Defensive line almost the same. We bring back a strong core of Linebackers and some talent on the back end Some of the guys we lost are not even on their new team Depth Chart Roster. If Chris Lewis make it back, we good. This staff have something to prove, let's watch them work. We are Troy. This guy gets it. It’s not a rebuilding year. People saying that are truly uninformed or are trying to build cover for if HCGP fails. Sumrall knew he had a good team with potential post season opportunities. Why the decision was tough. But his personal opportunity was too good to pass up. I got a different take when I talked to the man in person. I'll tell it like it is. College football is now pro football and Tulane is serious about winning. They have SEC level NIL and I'm talking about the top. Jon took the money and raided our staff and our players because to win now costs money. Jonesy gets it and is helping Troy get it and to be fair, I have heard our NIL is looking better than the bottom of the SEC. I believe Mississippi State was a direct mention. To say that this year is not a rebuilding year is just down right bad algebra. How many starters do we return? How many coaches do we return? I get it, the koolaid is strong, but this is by all possible calculations a rebuilding year because Sumrall robbed the place on his way out of town.
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Post by trojanfan251 on Jun 21, 2024 12:00:55 GMT -6
Sitting here sipping coffee on this fine Friday morning reading this board and some of y’all should be ashamed to call your self Troy fans. This statement and the 10s of dollars you donate really make me ashamed. scroll up and read my first post idk why it posted half of my original post. I hear ya mr big ego. Sorry I’m not a Doctor or some millionaire. I figured buying tickets and rooting for my team was all it took to be accepted as a fan. According to your dumbass take you cant live paycheck to paycheck and still be a Troy fan. I guess if I said we suck and going 0-12 and slid $1k you would have thanked me.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jun 21, 2024 12:09:49 GMT -6
This statement and the 10s of dollars you donate really make me ashamed. scroll up and read my first post idk why it posted half of my original post. I hear ya mr big ego. Sorry I’m not a Doctor or some millionaire. I figured buying tickets and rooting for my team was all it took to be accepted as a fan. According to your dumbass take you cant live paycheck to paycheck and still be a Troy fan. I guess if I said we suck and going 0-12 and slid $1k you would have thanked me. You started it pleb. You judged and ye be judged.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Jun 21, 2024 12:55:27 GMT -6
This guy gets it. It’s not a rebuilding year. People saying that are truly uninformed or are trying to build cover for if HCGP fails. Sumrall knew he had a good team with potential post season opportunities. Why the decision was tough. But his personal opportunity was too good to pass up. I got a different take when I talked to the man in person. I'll tell it like it is. College football is now pro football and Tulane is serious about winning. They have SEC level NIL and I'm talking about the top. Jon took the money and raided our staff and our players because to win now costs money. Jonesy gets it and is helping Troy get it and to be fair, I have heard our NIL is looking better than the bottom of the SEC. I believe Mississippi State was a direct mention. To say that this year is not a rebuilding year is just down right bad algebra. How many starters do we return? How many coaches do we return? I get it, the koolaid is strong, but this is by all possible calculations a rebuilding year because Sumrall robbed the place on his way out of town. By robbing the place you mean 3 players he took?
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jun 21, 2024 13:06:04 GMT -6
I got a different take when I talked to the man in person. I'll tell it like it is. College football is now pro football and Tulane is serious about winning. They have SEC level NIL and I'm talking about the top. Jon took the money and raided our staff and our players because to win now costs money. Jonesy gets it and is helping Troy get it and to be fair, I have heard our NIL is looking better than the bottom of the SEC. I believe Mississippi State was a direct mention. To say that this year is not a rebuilding year is just down right bad algebra. How many starters do we return? How many coaches do we return? I get it, the koolaid is strong, but this is by all possible calculations a rebuilding year because Sumrall robbed the place on his way out of town. By robbing the place you mean 3 players he took? Is 3 not enough? How about coaches? Why didn’t he take Chris Lewis to Tulane where he could get world class treatment for free? I’m thankful for what Sumrall did, but he left the wrong way.
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Post by trojanfan251 on Jun 21, 2024 13:08:22 GMT -6
By robbing the place you mean 3 players he took? Is 3 not enough? How about coaches? Why didn’t he take Chris Lewis to Tulane where he could get world class treatment for free? I’m thankful for what Sumrall did, but he left the wrong way. I agree with you on the sumrall leaving the wrong way topic. Win the bowl game and walk away like a legend. That’s why I Rank Neal ahead of sumrall
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Post by saintflorian on Jun 21, 2024 13:47:09 GMT -6
This guy gets it. It’s not a rebuilding year. People saying that are truly uninformed or are trying to build cover for if HCGP fails. Sumrall knew he had a good team with potential post season opportunities. Why the decision was tough. But his personal opportunity was too good to pass up. I got a different take when I talked to the man in person. I'll tell it like it is. College football is now pro football and Tulane is serious about winning. They have SEC level NIL and I'm talking about the top. Jon took the money and raided our staff and our players because to win now costs money. Jonesy gets it and is helping Troy get it and to be fair, I have heard our NIL is looking better than the bottom of the SEC. I believe Mississippi State was a direct mention. To say that this year is not a rebuilding year is just down right bad algebra. How many starters do we return? How many coaches do we return? I get it, the koolaid is strong, but this is by all possible calculations a rebuilding year because Sumrall robbed the place on his way out of town. Have a JR/SR laden team with talented guys that have been in the program, some have played a lot, some have started and some good transfers. Some, One could say could be better than one or two we lost. That Portal door swings both ways bud. Had a few coaches stay and quite frankly glad a few that left are no longer at Troy. If our NIL is on par with Miss State, why saying Troy a 4 win team? 🤷🏼♂️ You saying we spent that NIL on sub talented players. In this era the days of alot of returning starters are gone. You should know that, you been preaching it. Don’t use it as a matrix in your thought process because every team in the same boat. If HCGP has a modicum of leadership, poise, smarts and motivation in him, Troy easily challenges for the title. I will grant he is an unknown and will be judged on wins and losses.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Jun 21, 2024 14:46:25 GMT -6
I got a different take when I talked to the man in person. I'll tell it like it is. College football is now pro football and Tulane is serious about winning. They have SEC level NIL and I'm talking about the top. Jon took the money and raided our staff and our players because to win now costs money. Jonesy gets it and is helping Troy get it and to be fair, I have heard our NIL is looking better than the bottom of the SEC. I believe Mississippi State was a direct mention. To say that this year is not a rebuilding year is just down right bad algebra. How many starters do we return? How many coaches do we return? I get it, the koolaid is strong, but this is by all possible calculations a rebuilding year because Sumrall robbed the place on his way out of town. Have a JR/SR laden team with talented guys that have been in the program, some have played a lot, some have started and some good transfers. Some, One could say could be better than one or two we lost. That Portal door swings both ways bud. Had a few coaches stay and quite frankly glad a few that left are no longer at Troy. If our NIL is on par with Miss State, why saying Troy a 4 win team? 🤷🏼♂️ You saying we spent that NIL on sub talented players. In this era the days of alot of returning starters are gone. You should know that, you been preaching it. Don’t use it as a matrix in your thought process because every team in the same boat. If HCGP has a modicum of leadership, poise, smarts and motivation in him, Troy easily challenges for the title. I will grant he is an unknown and will be judged on wins and losses. You’re almost there. I said a 4 win team is possible. I’ll stand by that, but I really want my position of this season being a rebuild to be my gotcha statement. I agree with you that we have good ingredients, but it’s how they are put together is what counts. Sumrall inherited a better team than Parker. Basically what I am saying is Parker has to rebuild with lots of unknowns and one of the key indicators of a rebuild is a new QB.
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