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Post by troyjan95 on Jun 30, 2022 21:17:44 GMT -6
From ACC to SEC Clemson and North Carolina or FSU From ACC to Big 10 North Carolina and Duke Notre Dame? ? From ACC to Big 12 Louisville and Pitt Crazy to think this but it is what it is MONEY
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 1, 2022 9:41:05 GMT -6
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Post by troyfan on Jul 1, 2022 11:52:56 GMT -6
So I think the current fbs is about to be split into 2 divisions. There will be an ncaa fbs champion and then a college football playoff champion or something like that. As we know the cfp championship is not an ncaa title. It's the only trophy that is not handed out by the ncaa. So now the group of 5 or whatever is left of us will now have a consistent shot at a championship without so many politics. Basically I think there will be an fcs, fbs, and cfp division of college football. It will be interesting to see how the future of bowl games looks with tie ins etc.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 1, 2022 13:05:39 GMT -6
Oh by the way this has to be the longest link ever posted on this board!
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Post by Trojan Thunder on Jul 1, 2022 13:20:23 GMT -6
So I think the current fbs is about to be split into 2 divisions. There will be an ncaa fbs champion and then a college football playoff champion or something like that. As we know the cfp championship is not an ncaa title. It's the only trophy that is not handed out by the ncaa. So now the group of 5 or whatever is left of us will now have a consistent shot at a championship without so many politics. Basically I think there will be an fcs, fbs, and cfp division of college football. It will be interesting to see how the future of bowl games looks with tie ins etc.[/quote The two divisions seems to be the consensus when it comes to college football analysts. Unfortunate, imo, for college football. The conferences will lose their distinctiveness.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 1, 2022 17:30:54 GMT -6
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Post by Troystet on Jul 2, 2022 6:41:36 GMT -6
Troy to the SEC and Bama and Barn finally have to play us lol
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 2, 2022 8:14:51 GMT -6
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 4, 2022 15:10:01 GMT -6
It is unbelievable that in a few days it is likely that the Big 12 which was almost dead a year ago is going to kill off the Pac 12. (snobs who believed that should not have football in 20) Tuesday there are meetings with ASU, Arizona, Utah and Colorado. If Washington and Oregon don't make it to the Big 10 then heck they too may go to the Big 12. The fall out when all is said and done is going to probably have the GIANTS of SEC and BIG 10 and perhaps they are going to let the Big 12 play that could wind up having an 18 team conference there. SBC guys just need to sit tight and watch the big guys eat each other and just show what is possible with regional rivals. Troy!!!
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 4, 2022 15:16:15 GMT -6
If this were chess..................waiting on Notre Dame to move.........................if they go to Big 10 then watch Stanford be their dance partner.............. Oregon and Washington are going to be begging as Phil Knight (I think that is his name) writes massive check to Big 10 to get his son (team) picked. . 54-60 teams in the new world order. . Poop hits the fan and it fly's where it may........................it just is going to have the Big 12 the likely winner of the one other guy.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 4, 2022 15:26:56 GMT -6
NIL/ Transfer Portal/ Conference realignment/ not knowing the sex of someone after knowing what sex they are? What else could happen to screw up college football as we know it?? I know that last one probably is not contributing to college football falling off the table but you get the idea resulting in college football being a WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT. Probably going to have some fans just enjoy our level of college football because of not being terribly corporate.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Jul 4, 2022 15:43:16 GMT -6
I love how Jax St. was left out of this.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 5, 2022 16:19:13 GMT -6
There is a chance now of 6 teams are possibly coming from PAC 12 to Big 12??? The problem is that CBS sports is announcing that the 4 Arizona, ASU, Utah and Colorado with a possibility of Oregon and Washington. Doubt they (Northwest guys) want to go to Big 12 but the B1G is not too interested in Oregon and Washington if they were they would already be gone. With Stanford going to B1G if Notre Dame signs on the line. Still waiting on Norte Dame to move and they don't want to go to conference and thus that would make Oregon and Washington more attractive for B1G.
All in all it is at least fun to watch knowing that the hurricane will hit 500 miles away at least for now for the SBC.
ACC may well get poached by SEC and then that leaves the Big 12 as the OTHER guy for Washington and Oregon.
MWC would then pick up OSU (Oregon) WSU (Washington State) so MWC would be in pretty good shape as a G5 to G4. Not sure CUSA will be around when all the pieces fall. Likely that AAC is markedly diminished at the end of this.
Then we just play our regional rivals and people like what they see and the rest is at least some football that college purists will find and enjoying watching.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 5, 2022 18:46:06 GMT -6
I know that some of you may know. Before I say this I am happy that I can watch Troy games that I may not be able to attend on an ESPN platform.
With that said : The mouse has a great deal to do with the money that is rocking College Football as we know it and these Super Conferences development. Last year when it appeared that we would have an expanded 12 team playoff ( with even a G 5 guaranteed spot) got voted down it was the Pac12 and the ACC that killed it. Ya think that it was proposed without the mouse being involved? Now the PAC 12 and ACC are soon to likely be laid waste to by some super conferences and I will be danged the non ESPN dominated but non crossing Big 12 is the likely number three behind the SEC and the B1G. A kind of distant third (sort of like aunt who gets to come to the family get together but know one really likes them or cares for them) But alas adios PAC 12 and most likely a much more neutered ACC. Yet, a house pet SBC will be well taken care of by the Biggies in the game. Yep, enjoy this last year of half-way normal ole college football
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Post by troyjan95 on Jul 5, 2022 19:18:45 GMT -6
Is there any chance the SBC can benefit from all of the changes? Any chance the SBC picks up a "former" Power 5 team or two. Probably not but from the ACC who? Can't think of any but where will Wake Forest, Boston College, NC State land?
While not Power 5, any chance UCF and South Florida jump in with SBC - much better travel for them. Lot of opportunities for a lot of teams. Always a chance SBC gets raided I suppose.
Very glad where we are and now is the time to get out the pocket book and contribute - not to football but to the other sports. The sports that don't make money will be HURT big time. Stanford already got rid of a ton of Olympic sports and it will get worse for ALL schools for the non revenue sports, even the big boys.
If any one has a crystal ball, I would liek to take a look in it.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 6, 2022 8:55:01 GMT -6
The newest and funnest of talks for realignment. There may be an alliance between the two (designated to be run over and destroyed conferences) the ACC and PAC-12 with a possible championship between the two conferences. Wow, the people who killed the 12 team playoff decided to attempt to ban together. But then again, reach for a weird thing that brings a tad more money etc etc. verses the Big 12 taking the 4 teams. Both Colorado and Arizona State both put things out there about solidarity with PAC 12 to "advance the best interest of the conference." That statement sounds like the AD saying we have complete confidence in our coach on the hot seat.............then firing him next week. . Clemson, FSU, Miami to SEC and figure it out in court "SEC source"
Everyone is talking out of their mouths from both sides looking for the mutual enemy clause making them my friend.
The PAC 12 wants everyone in conference with help to sign something but their rights are up in 24. Kind of think this whole deal sounds like "Honey I am going to be with you forever............hold on I have a call from my mistress that I need to take."
Fun to watch.
What this has to do with Troy is that the flavor of college football as a whole is reallllllllly changing but our leadership in the conference got a bit ahead of the problem just like they did with playing in 2020 early and being the only show in town for a couple of weeks. Good job to SBC leadership including Troy leadership.
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Post by Mr E 205 Legion on Jul 7, 2022 10:44:56 GMT -6
ONLY for reading enjoyment to help pass the next 58 days ...
I agree with buzzlightyear that it is NICE to be able to WATCH what happens next with conference alignment BECAUSE it will NOT IMPACT the SBC this time. The Sun Belt with its offensive moves (instead of defensive/reactive) has reaffirmed the original footprint of this conference and the importance of regional rivalries. As Buzz mentioned, money is the driving factor so between travel budgets and the renegotiated television contracts for future years, the Sun Belt has definitely strengthen its brand and its potential allure down the road.
I am going to throw my thoughts out ONLY so they are available to be pulled up sometime in the FUTURE! For now I think everyone within the Fun Belt Family is happy with where we are and WHO we are, NOW let's just continue to strengthen the product through athletic competition and help some potential future members see why they should be with us.
Again, just for recording purposes, I am going to share my thoughts/wish list. I am happy with fourteen institutions, sixteen would be great, the current eighteen number being thrown around regarding "super conferences" is a little too big for my taste, but if it is needed for survivor purposes go for it! To get to sixteen, I think we let the AAC (American Athletic) see what all their recent shuffling has gotten them and let TWO of their schools realize maybe the stronger conference for them IS the SBC. I think (personal opinion, we will see if I am correct) in the next couple of years travel budgets and television contracts bring the AAC & SBC to similar dollar amounts available per school. Based on that, my Christmas List for Santa in 2024/2025 has on it East Carolina University and University of Memphis (Memphis State forever in my mind).
Going the full blown eighteen and thinking IF the ACC (Atlantic Coast) is still in existence after the SEC and Big Ten attempt to feast on it, when I make the list Louisville (still missing their days of glory hanging with UNC & Duke) and Virginia Tech (IF our current Virginia schools are willing to add a third) finish my thoughts (JUST to get to the eighteen).
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Post by Trojanfan2 on Jul 7, 2022 16:24:43 GMT -6
When the conferences shuffling started in a big way a few years back, I was told by someone "in the know" that the master plan was to have four super conferences with 16 teams each, two divisions each. The eight divisions would play for the conference championship; the four conference champs would play for the national championship. This appears to be the way things are going. I was wondering which one of the power 5 conferences would fall out, and now it appears to be the PAC 12, leaving just the SEC, ACC, Big 10, and Big 12 to be the four super conferences. Those four may, at some time, split away from the NCAA but that is unlikely due to the other sports.
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Post by saintflorian on Jul 8, 2022 7:56:23 GMT -6
Whoa, y’all better be careful. Talking about other subjects/teams than Troy….
The Troy message board nazi is going to get ya. Now where is he, and his lunatic posts calling out peoples mothers.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Jul 8, 2022 8:48:19 GMT -6
I'm right here, xxxxxxxxxxxx.
And I only finished what some other xxxxxxxxxxxx started. Are you ignorant or deliberately lying?
Funny thing, I was pretty much ignoring this thread, just casually flipping through once in a while, not really reading it, but now here we are.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 9, 2022 11:56:07 GMT -6
Appears a few of the schools in the PAC 12 are trying to survive by a possible loose affiliation with ACC or even to the ACC. Nothing says ACC like a school in Seattle. Not sure they are not just dreaming about ESPN helping to solidify the ACC etc. not sure why they (ESPN) would do this since they have the ACC tied up with grant of rights. The Iowa AD has stated that Notre Dame Is standing pat so the B1G is standing pat for now. Thus at present you have 3 leaning out the door to BIg12 who voted to expand. Oregon State and Washington State reaching out to MWC.
Stick a fork in her PAC 12 is done. All the rats are scrambling to the ropes holding the sinking ship to the wharf. Next week should be real interesting. With Notre Dame standing pat for now Washington and Oregon are trying real hard to avoid the Big 12 but may even date them for a year or two (the Big 12
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Post by trojan2003 on Jul 10, 2022 4:39:28 GMT -6
Is there any chance the SBC can benefit from all of the changes? Any chance the SBC picks up a "former" Power 5 team or two. Probably not but from the ACC who? Can't think of any but where will Wake Forest, Boston College, NC State land? While not Power 5, any chance UCF and South Florida jump in with SBC - much better travel for them. Lot of opportunities for a lot of teams. Always a chance SBC gets raided I suppose. Very glad where we are and now is the time to get out the pocket book and contribute - not to football but to the other sports. The sports that don't make money will be HURT big time. Stanford already got rid of a ton of Olympic sports and it will get worse for ALL schools for the non revenue sports, even the big boys. If any one has a crystal ball, I would liek to take a look in it. Actually, UCLA is moving to the B10 to save Olympic sports: UCLA basketball, football just saved Olympics sports by moving to the Big Tenfansided.com/2022/07/05/ucla-football-olympic-sports-big-ten/USC, UCLA and the Big Ten are being accused of killing the Pac-12. The truth of the matter is the the Bruins were on the verge of killing some of their own sports programs. The move to the Big Ten will save them instead.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 10, 2022 7:02:22 GMT -6
Is there any chance the SBC can benefit from all of the changes? Any chance the SBC picks up a "former" Power 5 team or two. Probably not but from the ACC who? Can't think of any but where will Wake Forest, Boston College, NC State land? While not Power 5, any chance UCF and South Florida jump in with SBC - much better travel for them. Lot of opportunities for a lot of teams. Always a chance SBC gets raided I suppose. Very glad where we are and now is the time to get out the pocket book and contribute - not to football but to the other sports. The sports that don't make money will be HURT big time. Stanford already got rid of a ton of Olympic sports and it will get worse for ALL schools for the non revenue sports, even the big boys. If any one has a crystal ball, I would liek to take a look in it. Actually, UCLA is moving to the B10 to save Olympic sports: UCLA basketball, football just saved Olympics sports by moving to the Big Tenfansided.com/2022/07/05/ucla-football-olympic-sports-big-ten/USC, UCLA and the Big Ten are being accused of killing the Pac-12. The truth of the matter is the the Bruins were on the verge of killing some of their own sports programs. The move to the Big Ten will save them instead. Stanford had killed off several sports then brought them back. Lots of possibilities when u have money. The Olympic sports are nice but there are very few in the country that even come close to breaking even. Thus the Mack daddy of sports Football runs the show and we get these weird hybrid conferences such as the hypothetical Miami Vs Washington conference game. Now I don’t think for a second that will come about but the fact that it is even a consideration is a sign of the absurd times we are in currently.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Jul 12, 2022 9:45:27 GMT -6
Latest realignment circus appears to have a brake pad being thrown. Brake pad equal SEC saying we are not expanding as of now. Interpretation into the English language: The teams we want are bound by a contract with ESPN and no matter how much they like us and love us and would do anything for us they said to us. "Dudes we have the contract with the ACC we are not going to foot no dang 300 to 500 million to have them break it so we can have them with you because while Clemson is worth quite a bit it would take us about 5 years to get that money back. So they going to do their thing and we do our thang and you with OU and Texas will do your thang till it gets cheaper." SEC reply. While shite I guess we will stop now. Meanwhile Up North Notre Dame says: "We ain't got to so we ain't gonna do" B1G says: Ok we will wait as long as you don't go with those guys in the SEC Notre Dame: "We ain't got to so we ain't gonna do" Meanwhile in the MidWest and West Big 12 says: "Guys you are on a sinking ship- sooner or later the Duck is going to stab all you all in the back and your conference will............. Parts of PAC 12 say: We gonna stick together for now..............other parts say............You know those Big 12 guys are right should we go or later..........."Well lets just make sure we in the life boat when we have to go". Thus everyone has slowed down but the Big 12 PAC saga is not over. ESPN says: "Shite happens and it's not are fault" SEC, ACC, PAC 12, Big 12, B1G and all the others say in unison: "No it's not 100% your fault but the 10% that is FOXES fault did not do it alone" "And will the truce end and it will all start up again?" ESPN: when we figure a way to end the ACC GOR when it is cheaper because we own the ACC network. So, be ready.
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Post by trotten72 on Jul 12, 2022 12:07:36 GMT -6
Whoa, y’all better be careful. Talking about other subjects/teams than Troy…. The Troy message board nazi is going to get ya. Now where is he, and his lunatic posts calling out peoples mothers. I guess expecting the Troy message board to be pro Troy instead of kissing up to app is kinda fascist.We have to bow down to our benevolent merciful wonderful kind loving superior masters in Boone.It’s not other topics or discussing the SBC.It’s the groveling at Boone County Colleges feet that is a problem.
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