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Post by gulfcoasttrojan on Dec 2, 2021 16:05:02 GMT -6
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Post by gulfcoasttrojan on Dec 2, 2021 16:08:53 GMT -6
Rumor has it Kevin Steele is the 4th unnamed finalist
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 2, 2021 16:11:53 GMT -6
Don’t underestimate ole Nick Saban and/or his friends making some calls to JH for his guy. It helps Saban out if he leaves.
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Post by chasin170 on Dec 2, 2021 16:12:01 GMT -6
Thought Justin Fuente might slip in for an interview,like that guy alot.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 2, 2021 16:13:34 GMT -6
I can live with three of the four. Kelly does not excite me. 54 and never a HC is a bit concerning
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Post by foulpolephenom on Dec 2, 2021 16:16:20 GMT -6
I can live with three of the four. Kelly does not excite me. 54 and never a HC is a bit concerning I thought you were against Lesley because he cussed too much?
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Post by atlantatrojan on Dec 2, 2021 16:21:03 GMT -6
If it’s Kelly I’ll give up on Troy
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Post by Hemi Man on Dec 2, 2021 16:23:06 GMT -6
Don’t underestimate ole Nick Saban and/or his friends making some calls to JH for his guy. It helps Saban out if he leaves. Spot on.
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Post by Troy_Fan_15 on Dec 2, 2021 16:34:09 GMT -6
Iâd take those 3 over (The HC we don’t speak of) in a heart beat so at least theyâre all an improvement. I donât love the idea of Charles Kelley but Iâd still support us if he was hired.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Dec 2, 2021 16:36:29 GMT -6
My rank of the 4: JS JL __ CK The blank could go up or down depending on who it is
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Dec 2, 2021 16:38:19 GMT -6
My rank of the 4: JS JL __ CK Other than being 54, and not living up to Saban's standard of defense, what's the objection to Charles Kelly?
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Post by ksdtrojan on Dec 2, 2021 16:41:43 GMT -6
My rank of the 4: JS JL __ CK Other than being 54, and not living up to Saban's standard of defense, what's the objection to Charles Kelly? not really an objection other than the other 2 are very familiar with the culture that NB built and both worked with VK
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Post by scatman on Dec 2, 2021 16:42:04 GMT -6
My rank of the 4: JS JL __ CK Other than being 54, and not living up to Saban's standard of defense, what's the objection to Charles Kelly? Brandon Hall has been a part of defenses that in *some* instances has ranked higher in areas than Alabama. Why not just hire the guy we already know about if you want Kelley?
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 2, 2021 16:44:39 GMT -6
If it’s Kelly I’ll give up on Troy lol. If you didn’t give up when CL was hired, you will be fine.
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 2, 2021 16:46:48 GMT -6
My rank of the 4: JS JL __ CK Other than being 54, and not living up to Saban's standard of defense, what's the objection to Charles Kelly? Good question. Believe Kelly is the long shot but why does everyone say no. I admit my knowledge of the guy is limited apparently to a lot of y’all since y’all know him and say no way.
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Post by ksdtrojan on Dec 2, 2021 16:48:47 GMT -6
Other than being 54, and not living up to Saban's standard of defense, what's the objection to Charles Kelly? Good question. Believe Kelly is the long shot but why does everyone say no. I admit my knowledge of the guy is limited apparently to a lot of y’all since y’all know him and say no way. same here. I’m not saying no to him. But I know JS and JL
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Post by saintflorian on Dec 2, 2021 16:51:46 GMT -6
Good question. Believe Kelly is the long shot but why does everyone say no. I admit my knowledge of the guy is limited apparently to a lot of y’all since y’all know him and say no way. same here. I’m not saying no to him. But I know JS and JL Resume wise, it’s local Wiregrass boy coming home from coaching and winning National Championships in P5.
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Dec 2, 2021 16:53:07 GMT -6
Other than being 54, and not living up to Saban's standard of defense, what's the objection to Charles Kelly? Brandon Hall has been a part of defenses that in *some* instances has ranked higher in areas than Alabama. Why not just hire the guy we already know about if you want Kelley? I'm not sure that translates to being a head coach. VK is one of the greatest coordinators of all time (yes, I can back that up), but was a lousy head coach. Kelly has been under the tutelage of Jimbo Fisher, winning a national championship in 2014, and Nick Saban. You can't really get much better than that as far as mentorship goes. Him being 54 is a good point, as I'd rather have someone younger. I'd be ok with Kelly, but I'd rather have Sumrall. Lesley would at the very least require more discipline than (The HC we don’t speak of) did. I don't think any of these guys are bad candidates.
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Post by scatman on Dec 2, 2021 17:07:56 GMT -6
Brandon Hall has been a part of defenses that in *some* instances has ranked higher in areas than Alabama. Why not just hire the guy we already know about if you want Kelley? I'm not sure that translates to being a head coach. VK is one of the greatest coordinators of all time (yes, I can back that up), but was a lousy head coach. Kelly has been under the tutelage of Jimbo Fisher, winning a national championship in 2014, and Nick Saban. You can't really get much better than that as far as mentorship goes. Him being 54 is a good point, as I'd rather have someone younger. I'd be ok with Kelly, but I'd rather have Sumrall. Lesley would at the very least require more discipline than (The HC we don’t speak of) did. I don't think any of these guys are bad candidates. In general I agree with you. I think his time at FSU highlighted more talent than discipline, however. I think to your point that VC was a great DC and bad HC (we all agree with this) I feel very similar as to CK. A good DC does not make a good HC, and I feel that CK probably hasnât wanted the limelight of being a HC. Unless he expects his time at UA is coming to a close, I donât understand the lure of Troy for him. As always with all posts, this is my personal speculation. I donât think any of these are bad options and actually seeing a few on paper, I feel like Brent listened. Iâd like to know the fourth obviously but overall it seems like a better option any way it goes than (The HC we don’t speak of). Iâm just hoping we go out and grab the other guys before CK.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 2, 2021 17:14:25 GMT -6
I can live with three of the four. Kelly does not excite me. 54 and never a HC is a bit concerning I thought you were against Lesley because he cussed too much? I don't like that part but he is a good coach
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Post by trojanfan251 on Dec 2, 2021 17:14:46 GMT -6
Hearing this makes me feel better about the search. Shuts down all the crazy rumors of nix and other crazy Candidates. I imagine the 4th unnamed candidate is a coordinator whose coaching in a conference championship.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 2, 2021 17:14:59 GMT -6
Other than being 54, and not living up to Saban's standard of defense, what's the objection to Charles Kelly? Good question. Believe Kelly is the long shot but why does everyone say no. I admit my knowledge of the guy is limited apparently to a lot of yâall since yâall know him and say no way. Part of his problem is honestly how he looks ((The HC we don’t speak of) 2.0) Should not matter but combined with a resume that turns no one on. They know at least two of the others well. Yep he looks like the EX and that goes against you (Kelly)
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Post by ksdtrojan on Dec 2, 2021 17:20:33 GMT -6
Hearing this makes me feel better about the search. Shuts down all the crazy rumors of nix and other crazy Candidates. I imagine the 4th unnamed candidate is a coordinator whose coaching in a conference championship. or an NFL coach needing to stay under the radar
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Post by scatman on Dec 2, 2021 17:22:12 GMT -6
Hearing this makes me feel better about the search. Shuts down all the crazy rumors of nix and other crazy Candidates. I imagine the 4th unnamed candidate is a coordinator whose coaching in a conference championship. or an NFL coach needing to stay under the radar Ansley 🙏
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 2, 2021 17:32:23 GMT -6
Other than being 54, and not living up to Saban's standard of defense, what's the objection to Charles Kelly? Good question. Believe Kelly is the long shot but why does everyone say no. I admit my knowledge of the guy is limited apparently to a lot of y’all since y’all know him and say no way. Because he is an under achiever. He has spent the majority of his career as a position coach without the pressures of being a coordinator or HC. He is probably a very good position coach, but there is no evidence on his resume that he can lead a team or strategize an entire game, much less a season.
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