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Post by biggtroy on Nov 30, 2021 19:22:15 GMT -6
Dell posted on twitter that he has entered the portal. Need to get new HC in here now to stop the potential exodus.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 30, 2021 19:44:59 GMT -6
Hate to see that. Each guy is an individual case. Dell is a good player. If a new head guy can get him to rescind we would greatly be appreciative.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 30, 2021 19:51:37 GMT -6
Could the new coach persuade Dell to stay or does he have to go now?
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 30, 2021 20:16:59 GMT -6
Could the new coach persuade Dell to stay or does he have to go now? They can withdraw from Portal. It is just typically a sticky situation in wanting to leave but under this condition it would not be problematic to understand several could enter and then withdraw prior to committing somewhere.
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Post by cornhole on Dec 1, 2021 7:19:05 GMT -6
Entering the portal is one thing, getting picked up by another football program, another. It's a risky decision for a young athlete.
If I recall correctly, the "exit" school can rescind the scholarship after one, maybe two semesters. So each athlete has a "window" in the portal to see if anything better is offered.
Interesting fact. Nationally, 7 QB's announced for the portal just yesterday.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 1, 2021 7:56:29 GMT -6
Interesting fact. Nationally, 7 QB's announced for the portal just yesterday.
Gone are the days of waiting for your chance or winning the job. Don't play? quit and try somewhere else. Don't play there? quit and try somewhere else
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Post by cornhole on Dec 1, 2021 8:01:30 GMT -6
Interesting fact. Nationally, 7 QB's announced for the portal just yesterday. Gone are the days of waiting for your chance or winning the job. Don't play? quit and try somewhere else. Don't play there? quit and try somewhere else I wonder how that looks on a job resume/application when one graduates into the Real world?? I doubt if any of these kids think that far ahead anyway. They assume they'll each be an NFL star.
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Post by Troystet on Dec 1, 2021 8:09:35 GMT -6
Interesting fact. Nationally, 7 QB's announced for the portal just yesterday. Gone are the days of waiting for your chance or winning the job. Don't play? quit and try somewhere else. Don't play there? quit and try somewhere else I wonder how that looks on a job resume/application when one graduates into the Real world?? I doubt if any of these kids think that far ahead anyway. They assume they'll each be an NFL star. Problem with this generation. Everyone gets a participation trophy, everyone is a winner, no one loses. Of course an athlete has to work hard to succeed but I guess some of these players think they will graduate and start as the Senior VP in the company
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Dec 1, 2021 9:17:07 GMT -6
I wonder how that looks on a job resume/application when one graduates into the Real world?? I doubt if any of these kids think that far ahead anyway. They assume they'll each be an NFL star. Problem with this generation. Everyone gets a participation trophy, everyone is a winner, no one loses. Of course an athlete has to work hard to succeed but I guess some of these players think they will graduate and start as the Senior VP in the company I would disagree with the last two comments. In the real world, if you are unhappy with your job, you would quit and find another job. If you say otherwise, you are lying. If you are not lying, then you are a masochist who doesn't have the stones to get up and leave. This isn't the 1960s, people do not work the same jobs for very long, especially early in their career. Times have changed. Many say it's about loyalty to the institution you chose, even though your coaches, AD, university president, professors, and advisors would leave you at the drop of a hat. Who or what exactly are you being loyal to outside of your own teammates, who almost always support your decision to continue your journey elsewhere? These guys still keep in touch with former teammates. Digital communication has made that easier than ever. Besides, most of these guys are making business decisions, i.e. what's best for their future. Sometimes it's about playing time, sometimes it's about getting to a program where they can shine in front of NFL scouts. In the case of high profile QBs, it's not in your best interest to ride the bench behind guys who are firmly entrenched in their starting spots. Sometimes it works, most of the time it's a wash. I'm sure that with a few guys, there is a sense of entitlement, that they should have been the "star player". Those guys are few and far between. Overwhelmingly this is not a case of thinking you deserve something you don't. It wasn't the case with Marcus Jones, or Tyler Murray, and it certainly isn't the case with Dell Pettus. And of course, no one thinks their own generation has problems, just the ones that come after them. "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." — Plato, 375 BC
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Post by buzzlightyear on Dec 1, 2021 9:53:32 GMT -6
Problem with this generation. Everyone gets a participation trophy, everyone is a winner, no one loses. Of course an athlete has to work hard to succeed but I guess some of these players think they will graduate and start as the Senior VP in the company I would disagree with the last two comments. In the real world, if you are unhappy with your job, you would quit and find another job. If you say otherwise, you are lying. If you are not lying, then you are a masochist who doesn't have the stones to get up and leave. This isn't the 1960s, people do not work the same jobs for very long, especially early in their career. Times have changed. Many say it's about loyalty to the institution you chose, even though your coaches, AD, university president, professors, and advisors would leave you at the drop of a hat. Who or what exactly are you being loyal to outside of your own teammates, who almost always support your decision to continue your journey elsewhere? These guys still keep in touch with former teammates. Digital communication has made that easier than ever. Besides, most of these guys are making business decisions, i.e. what's best for their future. Sometimes it's about playing time, sometimes it's about getting to a program where they can shine in front of NFL scouts. In the case of high profile QBs, it's not in your best interest to ride the bench behind guys who are firmly entrenched in their starting spots. Sometimes it works, most of the time it's a wash. I'm sure that with a few guys, there is a sense of entitlement, that they should have been the "star player". Those guys are few and far between. Overwhelmingly this is not a case of thinking you deserve something you don't. It wasn't the case with Marcus Jones, or Tyler Murray, and it certainly isn't the case with Dell Pettus. And of course, no one thinks their own generation has problems, just the ones that come after them. "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." — Plato, 375 BC I think that is a great quote: To paraphrase Plato if he were commenting today. "I thought the kids were bad in my day. Not all but a lot of them kind a suck today because you guys have spoiled their arses."
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Post by Troystet on Dec 1, 2021 10:00:46 GMT -6
Problem with this generation. Everyone gets a participation trophy, everyone is a winner, no one loses. Of course an athlete has to work hard to succeed but I guess some of these players think they will graduate and start as the Senior VP in the company I would disagree with the last two comments. In the real world, if you are unhappy with your job, you would quit and find another job. If you say otherwise, you are lying. If you are not lying, then you are a masochist who doesn't have the stones to get up and leave. This isn't the 1960s, people do not work the same jobs for very long, especially early in their career. Times have changed. Many say it's about loyalty to the institution you chose, even though your coaches, AD, university president, professors, and advisors would leave you at the drop of a hat. Who or what exactly are you being loyal to outside of your own teammates, who almost always support your decision to continue your journey elsewhere? These guys still keep in touch with former teammates. Digital communication has made that easier than ever. Besides, most of these guys are making business decisions, i.e. what's best for their future. Sometimes it's about playing time, sometimes it's about getting to a program where they can shine in front of NFL scouts. In the case of high profile QBs, it's not in your best interest to ride the bench behind guys who are firmly entrenched in their starting spots. Sometimes it works, most of the time it's a wash. I'm sure that with a few guys, there is a sense of entitlement, that they should have been the "star player". Those guys are few and far between. Overwhelmingly this is not a case of thinking you deserve something you don't. It wasn't the case with Marcus Jones, or Tyler Murray, and it certainly isn't the case with Dell Pettus. And of course, no one thinks their own generation has problems, just the ones that come after them. "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." — Plato, 375 BC So you get hired, stay three months and leave, get another job stay three months and leave, apply for job three. Why did you leave your last two jobs after three months? Boss wouldn't promote me to Senior VP, Boss was mean, Boss didn't make me Manager day 1
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Dec 1, 2021 10:18:24 GMT -6
I would disagree with the last two comments. In the real world, if you are unhappy with your job, you would quit and find another job. If you say otherwise, you are lying. If you are not lying, then you are a masochist who doesn't have the stones to get up and leave. This isn't the 1960s, people do not work the same jobs for very long, especially early in their career. Times have changed. Many say it's about loyalty to the institution you chose, even though your coaches, AD, university president, professors, and advisors would leave you at the drop of a hat. Who or what exactly are you being loyal to outside of your own teammates, who almost always support your decision to continue your journey elsewhere? These guys still keep in touch with former teammates. Digital communication has made that easier than ever. Besides, most of these guys are making business decisions, i.e. what's best for their future. Sometimes it's about playing time, sometimes it's about getting to a program where they can shine in front of NFL scouts. In the case of high profile QBs, it's not in your best interest to ride the bench behind guys who are firmly entrenched in their starting spots. Sometimes it works, most of the time it's a wash. I'm sure that with a few guys, there is a sense of entitlement, that they should have been the "star player". Those guys are few and far between. Overwhelmingly this is not a case of thinking you deserve something you don't. It wasn't the case with Marcus Jones, or Tyler Murray, and it certainly isn't the case with Dell Pettus. And of course, no one thinks their own generation has problems, just the ones that come after them. "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." — Plato, 375 BC So you get hired, stay three months and leave, get another job stay three months and leave, apply for job three. Why did you leave your last two jobs after three months? Boss wouldn't promote me to Senior VP, Boss was mean, Boss didn't make me Manager day 1 If you can give me actual examples of student athletes leaving three months after they signed in December, enrolling at another school in April, only to leave in June, then we can take your argument seriously. If you can find even just one, I'd like to also know the percentage of transfer portal athletes that actually do this. I'd guess that number is somewhere around 0%.
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Post by crawlspace13 on Dec 1, 2021 12:22:38 GMT -6
I wonder how that looks on a job resume/application when one graduates into the Real world?? I doubt if any of these kids think that far ahead anyway. They assume they'll each be an NFL star. Problem with this generation. Everyone gets a participation trophy, everyone is a winner, no one loses. Of course an athlete has to work hard to succeed but I guess some of these players think they will graduate and start as the Senior VP in the company I find this whole line of thinking funny because switching jobs is relatively common. It's not a problem "with this generation." This generation basically saw how the workforce used their parents' misplaced loyalty, realized "the company" is very rarely going to be loyal to them or take their needs seriously, and said they weren't going to put up with it the way their parents did. College football is pretty much the same as a job. If you're unhappy and you aren't getting the experience you were promised and the environment or coaching staff doesn't live up to their end of things, I'm glad these guys can try to move on to better.
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Post by foulpolephenom on Dec 1, 2021 13:04:08 GMT -6
So you get hired, stay three months and leave, get another job stay three months and leave, apply for job three. Why did you leave your last two jobs after three months? Boss wouldn't promote me to Senior VP, Boss was mean, Boss didn't make me Manager day 1 If you can give me actual examples of student athletes leaving three months after they signed in December, enrolling at another school in April, only to leave in June, then we can take your argument seriously. If you can find even just one, I'd like to also know the percentage of transfer portal athletes that actually do this. I'd guess that number is somewhere around 0%. I do know of one. Bru McCoy
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Dec 1, 2021 13:15:38 GMT -6
If you can give me actual examples of student athletes leaving three months after they signed in December, enrolling at another school in April, only to leave in June, then we can take your argument seriously. If you can find even just one, I'd like to also know the percentage of transfer portal athletes that actually do this. I'd guess that number is somewhere around 0%. I do know of one. Bru McCoy That's fair, and a nice find. The story I found begins with "McCoy's story is the only one of its kind".
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Post by foulpolephenom on Dec 1, 2021 13:47:09 GMT -6
I do know of one. Bru McCoy That's fair, and a nice find. The story I found begins with "McCoy's story is the only one of its kind". I knew it was the rare example, I just happened to remember it.
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Post by emelibtc on Dec 1, 2021 13:47:56 GMT -6
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Post by TroyFootball05 on Dec 1, 2021 15:17:21 GMT -6
Here's an example of a guy who left Troy and became an FCS All-American. Defensive Player of the Year in his conference. twitter.com/koby24beast
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Post by troyalumni on Dec 2, 2021 22:49:39 GMT -6
Maybe he will stay now..
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Dec 2, 2021 22:56:32 GMT -6
I would like for him to stay as well.
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Post by chattvalleytrojan on Dec 3, 2021 8:00:27 GMT -6
With both Dell and CJS being from the Huntsville Metro area, I feel like this definitely will play a factor. Coach may have even recruited him as a Junior at Sparkman.
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Post by trojanfan1988 on Dec 3, 2021 8:26:43 GMT -6
If you can give me actual examples of student athletes leaving three months after they signed in December, enrolling at another school in April, only to leave in June, then we can take your argument seriously. If you can find even just one, I'd like to also know the percentage of transfer portal athletes that actually do this. I'd guess that number is somewhere around 0%. I do know of one. Bru McCoy The new terminology....it's called Diverse Experience.
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