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Post by troy79 on Nov 28, 2021 14:09:12 GMT -6
As previously stated, my guess is that Monday will be the day the Trojan Nation will be introduced to our next head coach. I think it will be someone we all know and the majority on this board will be happy with the decision. We need to support our new HC as he assembles his staff. I wish Coach CL and his staff the very best in their careers.
Go Troy!
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Post by troyjan95 on Nov 28, 2021 15:08:29 GMT -6
So its Sumrall. Thanks for the heads up. And I say this to say, if you know, say it or at least say it will be announced tomorrow at ________if you know.
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Post by troy79 on Nov 28, 2021 15:42:54 GMT -6
So its Sumrall. Thanks for the heads up. And I say this to say, if you know, say it or at least say it will be announced tomorrow at ________if you know. Saw a Twitter feed post earlier today from the UK community wishing a current coach all the best in his future endeavors. Used to live there and know many UK supporters. The timing should be good for tomorrow.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 28, 2021 16:35:31 GMT -6
I’ve heard something interesting… I hear Jon is a strong candidate at Troy but there’s a snag if Stoops leaves UK which is very possible. Stoops to OU makes a lot of sense and already being discussed.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 28, 2021 17:04:43 GMT -6
I’ve heard something interesting… I hear Jon is a strong candidate at Troy but there’s a snag if Stoops leaves UK which is very possible. Stoops to OU makes a lot of sense and already being discussed. Are you implying that Sumrall would take the UK job?
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 28, 2021 17:06:37 GMT -6
We will find out soon. However, if Lincoln Riley leave’s Oklahoma for a worse job in USC anything is possible. Maybe Lincoln realizes winning PAC 12 A WHOLE LOT EASIER THAN WINNING IN SEC.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 28, 2021 17:07:17 GMT -6
Also I'm hearing that Ok is targeting Ryan Gosling or Kliff... whatever his name is.
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Post by buzzlightyear on Nov 28, 2021 17:15:05 GMT -6
Also I'm hearing that Ok is targeting Ryan Gosling or Kliff... whatever his name is. They are the same people right?
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 28, 2021 17:16:28 GMT -6
Also I'm hearing that Ok is targeting Ryan Gosling or Kliff... whatever his name is. They are the same people right? That's what I always thought.
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Post by atlantatrojan on Nov 28, 2021 17:18:11 GMT -6
I’ve heard something interesting… I hear Jon is a strong candidate at Troy but there’s a snag if Stoops leaves UK which is very possible. Stoops to OU makes a lot of sense and already being discussed. Are you implying that Sumrall would take the UK job? A stretch but not out the question, he is a UK guy. He could also be offered the DC job with stoops at OU for 800-1m plus
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 28, 2021 17:26:47 GMT -6
Are you implying that Sumrall would take the UK job? A stretch but not out the question, he is a UK guy. He could also be offered the DC job with stoops at OU for 800-1m plus So we get the table scraps after the big dogs eat. Anyone hearing anything out of The Chargers boards regarding Ansley?
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Post by skeeter on Nov 28, 2021 17:59:34 GMT -6
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 28, 2021 18:01:53 GMT -6
As previously stated, my guess is that Monday will be the day the Trojan Nation will be introduced to our next head coach. I think it will be someone we all know and the majority on this board will be happy with the decision. We need to support our new HC as he assembles his staff. I wish Coach CL and his staff the very best in their careers. Go Troy! Nice. Did the AD perform a full national search that will look at every possible candidate, as promised?
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 28, 2021 18:03:46 GMT -6
I’ve heard something interesting… I hear Jon is a strong candidate at Troy but there’s a snag if Stoops leaves UK which is very possible. Stoops to OU makes a lot of sense and already being discussed. Are you implying that Sumrall would take the UK job? Please provide me what you are smoking if you or atl believe that Kentucky would offer JS the HC job there.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Nov 28, 2021 18:17:56 GMT -6
Are you implying that Sumrall would take the UK job? Please provide me what you are smoking if you or atl believe that Kentucky would offer JS the HC job there. He’s good enough for Troy but not UK? Troy will once again be an elite P5 killer. If UK really knows coach Sumrall as we do, they would be happy to have him.
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Post by trojanfan1988 on Nov 28, 2021 19:24:34 GMT -6
Please provide me what you are smoking if you or atl believe that Kentucky would offer JS the HC job there. He’s good enough for Troy but not UK? Troy will once again be an elite P5 killer. If UK really knows coach Sumrall as we do, they would be happy to have him. Maybe I am missing something, what makes Jon Sumrall such a great coach. If he as good as some says, why haven't any G5 Programs named him as their Head Coach.
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Post by Trojan Thunder on Nov 28, 2021 20:28:10 GMT -6
He’s good enough for Troy but not UK? Troy will once again be an elite P5 killer. If UK really knows coach Sumrall as we do, they would be happy to have him. Maybe I am missing something, what makes Jon Sumrall such a great coach. If he as good as some says, why haven't any G5 Programs named him as their Head Coach. I guess some things are a matter of timing. The same could have been said of Neal Brown before Troy hired him away from Kentucky.
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 29, 2021 0:47:43 GMT -6
He’s good enough for Troy but not UK? Troy will once again be an elite P5 killer. If UK really knows coach Sumrall as we do, they would be happy to have him. Maybe I am missing something, what makes Jon Sumrall such a great coach. If he as good as some says, why haven't any G5 Programs named him as their Head Coach. Good question. But probably can say this about every assistant/coordinator ever hired to be head coach. He is the same as about 40 other assistants around the country. Every hire is a roll of the dice. To answer your question, he used to coach at Troy, that is ultimately why he is a major candidate, the administration is comfortable with him.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 29, 2021 5:24:18 GMT -6
He’s good enough for Troy but not UK? Troy will once again be an elite P5 killer. If UK really knows coach Sumrall as we do, they would be happy to have him. Maybe I am missing something, what makes Jon Sumrall such a great coach. If he as good as some says, why haven't any G5 Programs named him as their Head Coach. Several people have given their reasons in the past on this issue. Don’t take their word for it. Ask a player that played for him. Not even his position just someone that was on a team while he was coaching there.
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 29, 2021 6:50:07 GMT -6
Maybe I am missing something, what makes Jon Sumrall such a great coach. If he as good as some says, why haven't any G5 Programs named him as their Head Coach. Several people have given their reasons in the past on this issue. Don’t take their word for it. Ask a player that played for him. Not even his position just someone that was on a team while he was coaching there. Using Hemi’s logic/parameters the answer is the same and confirms: Every hire is a roll of the dice. To answer your question, he used to coach at Troy, that is ultimately why he is a major candidate, the administration is comfortable with him. It is disappointing that the AD did not perform the exhaustive national search as promised, but went with what was comfortable and easy. AD 100% not using the criteria that the next coach has to have e Troy ties but kinda has. Now if it works out, then he is a genius and deserves the credit. It’s kinda like going for 4th and 12 on your own 30 yard line, if you get it your hero but if you don’t, we all suffer the continued pain of the last three years. Due to this, will JS be successful? Only time will tell. Hope and pray he does. Every assistant/coordinator ever hired to be head coach is the same in that aspect of the unknown. He is the same as 20 other assistants around the country.
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Post by trojanfan1988 on Nov 29, 2021 7:30:41 GMT -6
Several people have given their reasons in the past on this issue. Don’t take their word for it. Ask a player that played for him. Not even his position just someone that was on a team while he was coaching there. Using Hemi’s logic/parameters the answer is the same and confirms: Every hire is a roll of the dice. To answer your question, he used to coach at Troy, that is ultimately why he is a major candidate, the administration is comfortable with him. It is disappointing that the AD did not perform the exhaustive national search as promised, but went with what was comfortable and easy. AD 100% not using the criteria that the next coach has to have e Troy ties but kinda has. Now if it works out, then he is a genius and deserves the credit. It’s kinda like going for 4th and 12 on your own 30 yard line, if you get it your hero but if you don’t, we all suffer the continued pain of the last three years. Due to this, will JS be successful? Only time will tell. Hope and pray he does. Every assistant/coordinator ever hired to be head coach is the same in that aspect of the unknown. He is the same as 20 other assistants around the country. Don't get me wrong, I been around the program for the last 30 years and personally spoke too AD Brent Jones at homecoming. I also work as a hiring consultant and this is the most important hire our beloved University going to make. Over the last 10 years, we have had only 4 winning seasons and we were considered one of the Best G5 Programs during those 4 years. I understand CJS has been here before, same as CNB and CCL. From my understanding, he is bringing back CSR who has been here twice and left after 1 year both times. So my point, I really think we should explore our BEST Options and if CJS is the Best Option, so be it. I love Troy University as we all do.
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Post by saintflorian on Nov 29, 2021 7:44:03 GMT -6
Using Hemi’s logic/parameters the answer is the same and confirms: Every hire is a roll of the dice. To answer your question, he used to coach at Troy, that is ultimately why he is a major candidate, the administration is comfortable with him. It is disappointing that the AD did not perform the exhaustive national search as promised, but went with what was comfortable and easy. AD 100% not using the criteria that the next coach has to have e Troy ties but kinda has. Now if it works out, then he is a genius and deserves the credit. It’s kinda like going for 4th and 12 on your own 30 yard line, if you get it your hero but if you don’t, we all suffer the continued pain of the last three years. Due to this, will JS be successful? Only time will tell. Hope and pray he does. Every assistant/coordinator ever hired to be head coach is the same in that aspect of the unknown. He is the same as 20 other assistants around the country. . So my point, I really think we should explore our BEST Options and if CJS is the Best Option, so be it. I love Troy University as we all do. 100% correct. We should explore our BEST Options, all of them to see the best choice. AD Jones is on the record saying he would/did that. We’ll see.
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Post by Troystet on Nov 29, 2021 8:27:30 GMT -6
Early signing day is Dec 15. Ga Southern already has their staff in place as does South Gump, App St, Ga State, Coastal, ULM, JMU, Marshall, ODU. ULL is fixing to have a vacancy. If we want any chance of signing a HS player the clock is ticking or else we will go JUCO up again and pray for the portal. In spite of the time constraint when we hired NB, the staff was able to flip some commits they had at their prior school to Troy and several had an immediate impact year one in 2015. CL was lazy and we have a monumental hill to catch up on recruiting this year. I fully understand the importance of this hire but the clock is ticking
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Post by Mr. Ho on Nov 29, 2021 8:47:57 GMT -6
<button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> Early signing day is Dec 15. Ga Southern already has their staff in place as does South Gump, App St, Ga State, Coastal, ULM, JMU, Marshall, ODU. ULL is fixing to have a vacancy. If we want any chance of signing a HS player the clock is ticking or else we will go JUCO up again and pray for the portal. In spite of the time constraint when we hired NB, the staff was able to flip some commits they had at their prior school to Troy and several had an immediate impact year one in 2015. CL was lazy and we have a monumental hill to catch up on recruiting this year. I fully understand the importance of this hire but the clock is ticking THIS! The dynamics of these things have changed. Why do you think USC hired Lincoln so quickly? As I suspected the hype behind our signing classes was just that hype. I'm happy with D.A. or J.S. and their ability to recruit. Putting a staff together is another story...although I know a former Wide Receivers Coach that would have an instant impact on recruiting.
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Post by Hemi Man on Nov 29, 2021 8:56:37 GMT -6
Several people have given their reasons in the past on this issue. Don’t take their word for it. Ask a player that played for him. Not even his position just someone that was on a team while he was coaching there. Using Hemi’s logic/parameters the answer is the same and confirms: Every hire is a roll of the dice. To answer your question, he used to coach at Troy, that is ultimately why he is a major candidate, the administration is comfortable with him. It is disappointing that the AD did not perform the exhaustive national search as promised, but went with what was comfortable and easy. AD 100% not using the criteria that the next coach has to have e Troy ties but kinda has. Now if it works out, then he is a genius and deserves the credit. It’s kinda like going for 4th and 12 on your own 30 yard line, if you get it your hero but if you don’t, we all suffer the continued pain of the last three years. Due to this, will JS be successful? Only time will tell. Hope and pray he does. Every assistant/coordinator ever hired to be head coach is the same in that aspect of the unknown. He is the same as 20 other assistants around the country. There are no guarantees.
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