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Post by Trojans1andAll on Sept 26, 2021 18:33:31 GMT -6
Okay, it wasn't me who suggested UWF's coach.
But I am in favor of a proven I-AA coach who wants his chance.
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Post by troyjan95 on Sept 26, 2021 18:36:56 GMT -6
Ansley would be a great hire
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 26, 2021 18:46:41 GMT -6
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Post by terry42 on Sept 26, 2021 18:48:13 GMT -6
The football team is in free fall.We need a proven HC who can handle a team in need of discipline and getting back to basics.We don’t need a n assistant who needs on the job training.
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Post by trojans09 on Sept 26, 2021 18:54:42 GMT -6
While a great guy and a great Troy ambassador, I’m afraid this hire would turn out like Steve Campbell as USA.
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Post by scatman on Sept 26, 2021 19:12:54 GMT -6
Let ALL of our former players and ALL of our former assistants get their HC experience somewhere else. Why don't we let them prove they can win like any other hire instead of giving away more on the job training? I don't care if it's someone that played for Troy. I don't care if it's someone I've met. I don't care what a sweetheart everyone thinks he is. I want someone who has the record to prove he knows how to win and can start the culture change with his introduction speech. Can't see the other SBC teams? That's because they left us in a cloud of dust! We can either start catching up or get another coach who doesn't know where 1st gear is. Derrick Ansley...infinitely more qualified than the Head Coach of West Florida no matter what you think. He just happens to be TMTDM. Iâd be happy with Ansley. Anyone not named (The HC we don’t speak of) can be the next head coach and we instantly improve our outlook to recruits.
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Post by Mr. Ho on Sept 26, 2021 19:27:52 GMT -6
The football team is in free fall.We need a proven HC who can handle a team in need of discipline and getting back to basics.We don’t need a n assistant who needs on the job training. Pretty sure an Assistant Coach that can handle NFL DBs can handle 18-21 year old kids. They aren't the easiest group of men to handle in professional grid iron.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Sept 26, 2021 19:40:36 GMT -6
The football team is in free fall.We need a proven HC who can handle a team in need of discipline and getting back to basics.We don’t need a n assistant who needs on the job training. Pretty sure an Assistant Coach that can handle NFL DBs can handle 18-21 year old kids. They aren't the easiest group of men to handle in professional grid iron. It's about more than just that. Neal Brown had a vision for entire program not just for Xs and Os but for meetings, meals, travel, everything a program has to do. We don't need a coach that has to figure all of that out.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 26, 2021 19:53:05 GMT -6
I think another good strategy would be to find a red hot coach in the FCS ranks and bring them up. I'm kind of gun shy about bringing in another SEC coordinator with no head coaching experience. If we really want to find outside the box then we could get Billy Napier who used to coach at Louisiana he is the head coach at Gulf Shores High School or Phillip Rivers (yes, THAT Phillip Rivers) retired from the NFL and is now coaching at St. Michael Catholic in Fairhope. Phillip Rivers is not leaving Fairhope. Doesn’t need the money. Curt Cignetti - James Madison. Look him up. Fit for Troy, good oleCan recruit like fire. Proven HEAD Coach, knows how to run an entire program. Agree let’s sit out the SEC coordinators this round.
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Post by trojanforce on Sept 26, 2021 19:58:41 GMT -6
We need to hire someone that has zero connection to Troy with a proven record. Neal Brown is the exception but to keep hiring coaches that were here before is an easy way out and creates another disaster. Too many great head coaches out there who would love to come to Troy. Find them. Earn your money AD!!!! Bur first fire the guy!!!!
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Post by Mr. Ho on Sept 26, 2021 20:18:56 GMT -6
We need to hire someone that has zero connection to Troy with a proven record. Neal Brown is the exception but to keep hiring coaches that were here before is an easy way out and creates another disaster. Too many great head coaches out there who would love to come to Troy. Find them. Earn your money AD!!!! Bur first fire the guy!!!! Yes, ZERO connection and hope your candidate doesn't show up in Troy, New York for the interview.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Sept 26, 2021 21:35:04 GMT -6
We need to hire someone that has zero connection to Troy with a proven record. Neal Brown is the exception but to keep hiring coaches that were here before is an easy way out and creates another disaster. Too many great head coaches out there who would love to come to Troy. Find them. Earn your money AD!!!! Bur first fire the guy!!!! Yes, ZERO connection and hope your candidate doesn't show up in Troy, New York for the interview. If that's your only case you have no case. A winner finds a way to win. If he wants to be at Troy and prove his I-A mettle it doesn't matter if he knows where Piggly Wiggly is, where Coffee Kettle used to be, or if he knows who Charles Henderson is. All that matters is that he's ready to put in the work to win.
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Post by tufan81 on Sept 26, 2021 21:41:35 GMT -6
Mike Turk was a national championship quarterback for Troy despite being undersized in stature but not in heart or determination. What a show he put on in Florence in 1987 to clinch that title. He was an assistant coach at Troy under CLB and has had a successful tenure as a head coach in the NAIA. I believe he is also a man of high character who would likely be willing to keep the job for a long time. We can't know in advance how he would do as Troy head coach but I think he would be a tremendous upgrade from CCL.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Sept 26, 2021 22:19:38 GMT -6
Here are some things that could do a better job than (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of).
My sister's dog. An old sock. A half-eaten baloney and mustard sandwich. A dead printer. A pine cone. A used diaper (it would also be less full of crap).
You get my point. It's easy to find "better than (The HC we don’t speak of) (The HC we don’t speak of)" but it's not easy to find the winner Troy deserves. Stop looking for somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody and find someone who not only wants to win, but KNOWS HOW to win!
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Sept 26, 2021 22:29:14 GMT -6
One more thing, can someone explain Nick Saban's connection to Alabama before he was hired? Did he know where the Piggly Wiggly was? Did the AD ask him in the inerview? Did the people at the airport want to know before he got off the plane?
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Post by mlambertii on Sept 26, 2021 22:32:37 GMT -6
Stating a fact here: John Grass at Jacksonville State has the same amount of FBS level wins as (The HC we don’t speak of) does this year AND more Power 5 wins than (The HC we don’t speak of) does his entire Troy career. He's a Jacksonville State man and Bill Clarks successor when the time comes. Might be hard to get him here.
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Post by mlambertii on Sept 26, 2021 22:36:39 GMT -6
Sumrall should have got the job the first time.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 27, 2021 4:56:59 GMT -6
Sumrall should have got the job the first time. No he shouldn’t have. There numerous better candidates both now and then. What is the fascination with this guy with some of y’all on this board ? He a nice guy and all but nothing he has done proves he can run a program. No. He needs to marinate where he is, prove himself.
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Post by Trojan By Birth on Sept 27, 2021 5:28:59 GMT -6
Sumrall should have got the job the first time. No he shouldn’t have. There numerous better candidates both now and then. What is the fascination with this guy with some of y’all on this board ? He a nice guy and all but nothing he has done proves he can run a program. No. He needs to marinate where he is I personally don't know Coach Sumrall, but apparently a lot of my Troy friends do. I remember on game days when they would leave the tailgate and say they were going to go chat with Coach Sumrall. I always wondered how the heck a coach had time to chat on game days, but apparently he made time visit a few tailgates and talk to the fans. It should also be said, that if we wanted a program modeled after XHCNB, then I think Sumrall could possibly be the guy to do it. I'm not campaigning for Coach Sumrall, I just wanted to share my limited memory of his time at Troy.
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Post by saintflorian on Sept 27, 2021 5:46:46 GMT -6
No he shouldn’t have. There numerous better candidates both now and then. What is the fascination with this guy with some of y’all on this board ? He a nice guy and all but nothing he has done proves he can run a program. No. He needs to marinate where he is I personally don't know Coach Sumrall, but apparently a lot of my Troy friends do. I remember on game days when they would leave the tailgate and say they were going to go chat with Coach Sumrall. I always wondered how the heck a coach had time to chat on game days, but apparently he made time visit a few tailgates and talk to the fans. It should also be said, that if we wanted a program modeled after XHCNB, then I think Sumrall could possibly be the guy to do it. I'm not campaigning for Coach Sumrall, I just wanted to share my limited memory of his time at Troy. Again, a nice guy. At this point, We need a proven program builder / re-builder. New Brown was somewhat of lightning in a bottle but he had been running as OC and its responsibilities for 7 or 8 years, and his offense were good. Trying to recreate The Neal Brown experience at Troy with guy who was here while Neal Brown was here and is nice and visits tailgates before games is a mistake.
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Post by Trojans1andAll on Sept 27, 2021 6:00:28 GMT -6
Mark Smartt and Robert Maddox were really nice guys, too.
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Post by trojan2003 on Sept 27, 2021 7:33:12 GMT -6
Sumrall should have got the job the first time. No he shouldn’t have. There numerous better candidates both now and then. What is the fascination with this guy with some of y’all on this board ? He a nice guy and all but nothing he has done proves he can run a program. No. He needs to marinate where he is, prove himself. I don't get it either. Obviously he has some buddies here trying to position him for the job.
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Post by cornhole on Sept 27, 2021 7:46:21 GMT -6
No he shouldn’t have. There numerous better candidates both now and then. What is the fascination with this guy with some of y’all on this board ? He a nice guy and all but nothing he has done proves he can run a program. No. He needs to marinate where he is I personally don't know Coach Sumrall, but apparently a lot of my Troy friends do. I remember on game days when they would leave the tailgate and say they were going to go chat with Coach Sumrall. I always wondered how the heck a coach had time to chat on game days, but apparently he made time visit a few tailgates and talk to the fans. It should also be said, that if we wanted a program modeled after XHCNB, then I think Sumrall could possibly be the guy to do it. I'm not campaigning for Coach Sumrall, I just wanted to share my limited memory of his time at Troy. Jon could connect with anyone, win you over without trying. His enthusiasm was contagious, and it showed in his players. Worked in HCNB system. Hindsight 20/20, three years hence, Troy Football forum not in meltdown mode 2.5 years later.
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Post by cornhole on Sept 27, 2021 7:53:39 GMT -6
No he shouldn’t have. There numerous better candidates both now and then. What is the fascination with this guy with some of y’all on this board ? He a nice guy and all but nothing he has done proves he can run a program. No. He needs to marinate where he is, prove himself. I don't get it either. Obviously he has some buddies here trying to position him for the job. honestly, yes. There are some guys here who have witnessed college ball for over half a century EACH and recognize a winner. sumrall is experienced, juiced, has the skillset and IS a winner. Just needs the opportunity somewhere. You'll read about his sucesss someday, hope that it's at troy. ~~*~~ Of the three known-to-me candidates to replace HCNB, someone railroaded the worst to first.
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Post by cornhole on Sept 27, 2021 7:55:50 GMT -6
Mark Smartt and Robert Maddox were really nice guys, too. Good point. few would call Nick Saban a nice guy but he has a decent record.
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